Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

[jeffgoldblum]

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

Buckingham Palace declined to comment under the specific Q what did BP know. They could have a nice clean cut distance and exit if they knew nothing just to say so.

There have been major changes at BP since 2018/19. How many people who are there now are in a position to say what anyone knew or didn't know back then?

Say anything and people will immediately start picking it apart looking for discrepancies.

I think H is also wise to say nothing. I wonder if he is, for once, getting good advice and listening to it. Raises the question of whether he and M have separate PR.

HAM will no doubt threaten RF. Let us back in or we do an interview with the Scum. That door should remain forever shut. There is always worse to come regarding the Markles

Considering what they say and when they say it would have been a very sensible route to take from the very early days but they chose not to, unfortunately I do not see them changing course now.

Poor woman my arse, she’s one of the most calculating women I have ever read about; she set out to get Harry despite claiming she had no idea who he was ffs!

That’s why I hate the phrase ‘sex work’ instead of prostitution as if all these women have full choice and agency, when most of them are coerced, pressured or plain trafficked.

Even worse is ‘child pornography’ instead of referring to images of child sexual abuse.

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They could be giving M enough rope to hang herself. Leaving the floor to her, see whether she'll attempt to blame the RF and what for.

They won't do an Emily M style interview where they could be ripped apart and proven liars.

Yes Harry is staying schtum for the moment... he is right leave it the Markles. I'd say Harry is wondering how the hell he ended up marrying into such a dysfunctional, trashy family...

However what can he say to backtrack from blaming himself about Meghan having no dad..

Almost as disgusting as the push to have “map” to replace pedophile ! ….for the reason…..to spare the feelings of said people!!! 😡

They would only do an interview with questions they decide, pre-recorded so if the interviewer goes off script, it can be edited. Whoever did the interview would have signed numerous legal documents.

I do not think they will do an interview, but I think half way house is Meghan gives an exclusive article probably to the Sun.

The more I read about all of this, I just hope Harry and Meghan or just Harry, yell stop and realise the hole they have got themselves in, not just the TM situation but from the very beginning. I expect the way they are consumes their entire life, in fact it is their marriage - if it all stopped tomorrow, I doubt they would talk to each other as there would be nothing to talk about.

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That would be a very smart move. 'Let's see what she says she told us and what she says we knew.'

And also, who'd want to cozy up and reconcile with someone who makes that sort of threat? Next it would be, M gets the loveknot tiara and sits next go Macron, or else we'll do an interview with The Sun.

That should be the road they take as well as grey rocking.

I really hope HAM aren't planning a Liverpool "royal walkabout "

My gut feeling is that this was always going to come out when TM Snr died - it's been signposted enough over the years. For some reason (probably financial for the recipient of the Sun's sad face fund) this has been triggered early, but probably at a time when Senior will be judged too mentally and physically infirm to be traveling back to the Phillipines to stand trial.

Whether contaminating evidence was deliberate or unthinking, anyone who has ever watched a standard police procedural knows you don't go looking through evidence, move it, publish it or get a random 3rd party civilian to look through it. The minute you do that, the defence can claim that it is unreliable. Junior strikes me as a fellow who watches a lot of TV. The Sun journalist strikes me as someone who should know better.

The Markles are all calculating imo, it's just that they are all remarkably thick as well as short term thinkers, so Machiavellian is probably overstating it. But throwing shit, sewing confusion, claiming to be victims based on incidents that can't really be questioned/investigated and changing their stories so that the real truth can't possibly be known is their M O. They do succeed in getting their narrative out, aided and abetted by their respective credulous supporters; whether that's the Sussex Squad/journalists lacking research and critical thinking skills/commentators using them for an agenda on one side, or people like Lady C and Dan Wooten who ignore a million flags on the other. Their constant noise and preferred narrative is all over the media sphere and that's probably enough of a victory for them as that is their immediate goal, short term PR wins for themselves. I doubt they are really thinking (or caring) about what happens next or the fact that a million online sleuth types will be questioning everything they have said. That's especially the case when they have the likes of the Sun's Matt Wilkinson telling the public that the "trolls" (meaning anyone not in mainstream media or from a journalist background) can't be trusted.

Or according to Graham Norton 'just William, the 'prince' is silent'

Thankfully, there is still some milk of human kindness in the world although, in these particular realms, it appears to be in rather short supply.

https://spectator.com/article/i-feel-sorry-for-meghan-markle/

Many people, including readers of this piece and indeed Meghan’s husband Harry, will know what it is to have a difficult and dysfunctional family. Far fewer of us will have these dynamics played out across the international media, where intimate, even prurient details of horrendous events will be splashed out across the newspapers and internet alike. No doubt there will be further twists and turns and statements and intrigue for the foreseeable future. But before then, given everything that has happened, I feel deeply sorry for Meghan, as I would for anyone else who is in this deeply unpleasant and painful situation.

Yup

The Sun journalist strikes me as someone who should know better.

I have read that the Mail runs major stories past lawyers before publishing, and I find it incomprehensible that the Sun wouldn't do the same - and any decent lawyer would tell them don't tamper with the evidence and chain of evidence or you'll prejudice a trial. Hell, I'D tell them that and my knowledge of police procedure comes from TV. Everything that has come out about TMJr and the Sun makes me think a trial isn't the point.

What the point is I can't fathom.

Now you have told us you are vera99 , you can stop pretending indifference, we know you are a fan of the Sussex’s and believe they can do no wrong.

If they want/need to do an interview badly enough, they won't have a choice.

I don't know where you get that from. You accused me of exactly the same thing back then, and I rebutted it then, just as I do today.

I would have sympathy for Meg, if she, in the position she has, followed up on these allegations. Yes, the MET have questions to answer too. Her and her hubby make a living out of speaking about child safety etc. They could and should have done better

But before then, given everything that has happened, I feel deeply sorry for Meghan, as I would for anyone else who is in this deeply unpleasant and painful situation.

Nope. She dropped herself in it. No-one (I assume) made her contact the Sun. Before you talk about 'milk of human kindness' she lied to Oprah when her husband's GF was dying. No-one made her do that. No-one made her make fun of HMTLQ. No-one made her do any of the stuff she has done.

Why do some people have such trouble giving this woman any agency in her life as if she's a helpless pawn of circumstance?

Oh riiiiiiiight. That name rings a bell.