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Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

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jeffgoldblum · 25/10/2026 19:46

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

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AtIusvue · Yesterday 13:48

If Meg truly believed that her father was under some sort of investigation, for CSA, why would she not share with KP? They would be able to assist and help her navigate this…but it appears she didn’t reveal anything to them.

I think that’s why BP have said it’s nothing to do with us. This info wasn’t shared. Which again, looks odd on Megs part.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 13:48

andyburnhamhere · Yesterday 13:46

I don't know where you get that from. You accused me of exactly the same thing back then, and I rebutted it then, just as I do today.

Oh I think anyone can search the posts and find your “can’t wait for good king Harry to rule” comments! , many of us are still around from then too.

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andyburnhamhere · Yesterday 13:51

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 13:48

Oh I think anyone can search the posts and find your “can’t wait for good king Harry to rule” comments! , many of us are still around from then too.

I asked Chat for a summary of who I was and I think sarcastic covers that off nicely anyway that's enough about me.

Vera99 presents publicly as a politically engaged republican with a strong concern for class, institutional power and accountability. Their criticism is directed not only at individual royals but at the hereditary structure and the privileges associated with it. They are particularly sympathetic to Harry and Meghan when they perceive them to be targets of disproportionate hostility, although that does not necessarily mean they endorse the Sussexes uncritically.

Their forum style is argumentative, sometimes sarcastic, and inclined to interpret royal news through a broader political lens. They also appear conscious of the factional nature of Royal Family discussions and of the personal friction that can accompany dissenting views.

The principal limitation is that this is a profile of a public online persona, drawn from selected threads rather than every post. It cannot establish the poster's complete beliefs, private character, real-world identity or motives with certainty.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 13:54

andyburnhamhere · Yesterday 13:51

I asked Chat for a summary of who I was and I think sarcastic covers that off nicely anyway that's enough about me.

Vera99 presents publicly as a politically engaged republican with a strong concern for class, institutional power and accountability. Their criticism is directed not only at individual royals but at the hereditary structure and the privileges associated with it. They are particularly sympathetic to Harry and Meghan when they perceive them to be targets of disproportionate hostility, although that does not necessarily mean they endorse the Sussexes uncritically.

Their forum style is argumentative, sometimes sarcastic, and inclined to interpret royal news through a broader political lens. They also appear conscious of the factional nature of Royal Family discussions and of the personal friction that can accompany dissenting views.

The principal limitation is that this is a profile of a public online persona, drawn from selected threads rather than every post. It cannot establish the poster's complete beliefs, private character, real-world identity or motives with certainty.

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Using ai and chat to defend yourself is really not something you should really boast about on here!
🤣
you like Meghan would have been better keeping silent!

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Onebigsham · Yesterday 13:56

andyburnhamhere · Yesterday 13:40

Thankfully, there is still some milk of human kindness in the world although, in these particular realms, it appears to be in rather short supply.

https://spectator.com/article/i-feel-sorry-for-meghan-markle/

Many people, including readers of this piece and indeed Meghan’s husband Harry, will know what it is to have a difficult and dysfunctional family. Far fewer of us will have these dynamics played out across the international media, where intimate, even prurient details of horrendous events will be splashed out across the newspapers and internet alike. No doubt there will be further twists and turns and statements and intrigue for the foreseeable future. But before then, given everything that has happened, I feel deeply sorry for Meghan, as I would for anyone else who is in this deeply unpleasant and painful situation.

Many people, including readers of this piece and indeed Catherine’s husband William, will know what it is to have a difficult and dysfunctional family. Far fewer of us will have these dynamics played out across the international media by people like Harry and Meghan in their numerous lucrative media vehicles like Oprah, Spare and the Netflix series, where, for vast sums of money, intimate, even prurient details of inconsequential events, blown out of all proportion to benefit an agenda of claimed victimhood and imposed blame on people who can't answer back, will be splashed out across the newspapers and internet alike. No doubt there will be further twists and turns and statements and intrigue for the foreseeable future. But before then, given everything that has happened, I feel deeply sorry for those members of the royal family who have had to put up with 6 years of constant attacks, distorted portrayals and unedifying associations brought onto them by the Sussexes, as I would for anyone else who is in this deeply unpleasant and painful situation.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 13:58

Nice one, @Onebigsham

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 13:59

Kingsandqueenz · Yesterday 13:12

But this is nothing to do with BP, Meghan is no longer part of the royal family, she is a private citizen..
KC has never met Thomas Markle , Harry hasnt even met TM so really this is no concern of theirs in the slightest.
Meghan, Samantha & Thomas Jnrs father, their problem !

But it was at the time in Jan 2019 when H&M were WRF when the letter was sent to The Office of Harry and Meghan at that time within the KP household. If Qs are being asked what did MM know and do, what did the Met know and do then it’s not ridiculous to ask the same Qs of the institution into which the letter was delivered who were responsible for MM’s security.

They may have a very acceptable answer which was we followed Met guidance to do x,y,z.

I don’t think that the most recent expose is relevant to BP and agree they shouldn’t get involved - but if they were asked what they knew and what they did in 2019 I think it would serve them better to be transparent given that it’s a sensitive serious safeguarding issue that Camilla and Sophie actively campaign on for decades. The timing is also important as 2019 was when the AMW issue was at peak pressure.

Lunde · Yesterday 13:59

KCitsweyourHammiewevecomehomenow · Yesterday 13:13

The Sun is a scum paper. They had to pay DM journalists for illegally hacking them.

Indeed - Harry sued the Sun as part of his "dragon slayer" 🐲 crusade and settled in 2025

The following year Meghan is giving them exclusives

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 13:59

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 13:58

Nice one, @Onebigsham

Seconded.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 14:00

I think HAM's next pivot (their term) will be speaking out about children of predators but will basically just be them speaking about themselves.

MargaretThursday · Yesterday 14:01

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 13:48

Oh I think anyone can search the posts and find your “can’t wait for good king Harry to rule” comments! , many of us are still around from then too.

It's not Jeff guessing- you yourself told everyone on your 8.13 post today on the "William on Graham Norton" thread.
So why are you denying it now?

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 14:02

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 13:59

But it was at the time in Jan 2019 when H&M were WRF when the letter was sent to The Office of Harry and Meghan at that time within the KP household. If Qs are being asked what did MM know and do, what did the Met know and do then it’s not ridiculous to ask the same Qs of the institution into which the letter was delivered who were responsible for MM’s security.

They may have a very acceptable answer which was we followed Met guidance to do x,y,z.

I don’t think that the most recent expose is relevant to BP and agree they shouldn’t get involved - but if they were asked what they knew and what they did in 2019 I think it would serve them better to be transparent given that it’s a sensitive serious safeguarding issue that Camilla and Sophie actively campaign on for decades. The timing is also important as 2019 was when the AMW issue was at peak pressure.

You keep pushing this narrative…it’s not going to work! , this is purely a markle issue and nothing to do with wac or the rf!
did you hold ham responsible for what they knew about Andrew?? No , of course not! , same applies here.

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CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 14:02

AtIusvue · Yesterday 13:48

If Meg truly believed that her father was under some sort of investigation, for CSA, why would she not share with KP? They would be able to assist and help her navigate this…but it appears she didn’t reveal anything to them.

I think that’s why BP have said it’s nothing to do with us. This info wasn’t shared. Which again, looks odd on Megs part.

BP will be thanking their lucky stars that they made the distancing between the RF and the HaMs absolutely explicit on their return to the UK.

I'm not suggesting they will be able to keep out of the mess completely (they'll be dragged in...) but they can stand by for the time being and leave it to the HaMs.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 14:02

They may have a very acceptable answer which was we followed Met guidance to do x,y,z.

Acceptable to who?

LaMarschallin · Yesterday 14:03

If I cared less about energy and water supplies, I'd try asking ChatGPT to "Tell me all LaMarschallin's good points".
It might be short (quiet at the back there!) but I'm sure I'd enjoy the positive strokes, given it always seems to try to please.
Before I realised what a wasteful resource it is for trivial questions, I asked it to give the age of an unfiltered, no makeup photo of me.
Knocked 20+ years off 😄

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 14:04

MargaretThursday · Yesterday 14:01

It's not Jeff guessing- you yourself told everyone on your 8.13 post today on the "William on Graham Norton" thread.
So why are you denying it now?

I’m assuming for the same reason as Meghan jumped the gun!!

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IcedPurple · Yesterday 14:04

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 13:59

But it was at the time in Jan 2019 when H&M were WRF when the letter was sent to The Office of Harry and Meghan at that time within the KP household. If Qs are being asked what did MM know and do, what did the Met know and do then it’s not ridiculous to ask the same Qs of the institution into which the letter was delivered who were responsible for MM’s security.

They may have a very acceptable answer which was we followed Met guidance to do x,y,z.

I don’t think that the most recent expose is relevant to BP and agree they shouldn’t get involved - but if they were asked what they knew and what they did in 2019 I think it would serve them better to be transparent given that it’s a sensitive serious safeguarding issue that Camilla and Sophie actively campaign on for decades. The timing is also important as 2019 was when the AMW issue was at peak pressure.

They may have a very acceptable answer which was we followed Met guidance to do x,y,z.

They already provided a very acceptable answer.

"No comment."

Lunde · Yesterday 14:04

What did Harry know and why is he silent?

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 14:06

Lunde · Yesterday 14:04

What did Harry know and why is he silent?

Is he silent or silenced ?

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 14:06

LaMarschallin · Yesterday 14:03

If I cared less about energy and water supplies, I'd try asking ChatGPT to "Tell me all LaMarschallin's good points".
It might be short (quiet at the back there!) but I'm sure I'd enjoy the positive strokes, given it always seems to try to please.
Before I realised what a wasteful resource it is for trivial questions, I asked it to give the age of an unfiltered, no makeup photo of me.
Knocked 20+ years off 😄

I tried it! , the absolute smoke it blew up my ass was something to behold!!! …quite embarrassing to be honest!

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AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 14:06

AtIusvue · Yesterday 13:48

If Meg truly believed that her father was under some sort of investigation, for CSA, why would she not share with KP? They would be able to assist and help her navigate this…but it appears she didn’t reveal anything to them.

I think that’s why BP have said it’s nothing to do with us. This info wasn’t shared. Which again, looks odd on Megs part.

We don’t know that she or another royal official from her office or security team shared it beyond the initial recipients.

Maybe she did. Maybe an official did. We don’t know.

BP have not said it’s nothing to do with us and this info wasnt shared. Where did you see that?

What has happened is that BP have declined to comment when asked by The Times if they knew about the arrival of the 2019 letter into their system.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 14:07

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 14:06

Is he silent or silenced ?

Best for everyone he keeps his mouth shut

Kingsandqueenz · Yesterday 14:08

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 13:59

But it was at the time in Jan 2019 when H&M were WRF when the letter was sent to The Office of Harry and Meghan at that time within the KP household. If Qs are being asked what did MM know and do, what did the Met know and do then it’s not ridiculous to ask the same Qs of the institution into which the letter was delivered who were responsible for MM’s security.

They may have a very acceptable answer which was we followed Met guidance to do x,y,z.

I don’t think that the most recent expose is relevant to BP and agree they shouldn’t get involved - but if they were asked what they knew and what they did in 2019 I think it would serve them better to be transparent given that it’s a sensitive serious safeguarding issue that Camilla and Sophie actively campaign on for decades. The timing is also important as 2019 was when the AMW issue was at peak pressure.

I don't think that need to speak out at all, this is a private issue regarding Meghan & her father.
None of the royal family has ever met Thomas Markle, Harry hasn't even met him. He was never in the UK

Meghan is no longer part of the royal family, she left of her own accord many years ago. BP owe her nothing & should ensure they are not dragged into this sordid scandal.

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 14:08

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 14:06

Is he silent or silenced ?

Same with TMsr after MM letter in 2025 - was he silent or was he silenced?

Kingsandqueenz · Yesterday 14:09

Starryfifty · Yesterday 14:07

Best for everyone he keeps his mouth shut

Harry needs to keep his mouth shut. His wife has done more than enough damage already.

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