William on Graham Norton

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Poor Harry. As if his week hasn’t been bad enough he has now had to watch his brother appearing on the best talk show , holding his own, looking comfortable and relaxed, keeping up with the banter, making half decent jokes, telling stories against himself with humour.

Makes Harry’s attempt at tv chatting seem even more uncomfortable.

“Call me William” versus “I am a prince.”

Where is that proven? - if so it resolves the point!

Curtseying is optional. One can choose not to curtsey, but it's fine that Hannah Waddingham curtsied. I would also curtesy to the Prince of Wales - simply my choice.

Of course. Personal choice.

I think, rather like when the Nepali royal family were murdered and the odious uncle became king for a short time, we wouldn’t be a monarchy any more. The whole thing only hangs on for as long as reasonable people inherit the crown. It is anachronistic, but for as long as that continues, it works. But that wasn’t the point of my comment. The purpose was to point out how little freedom they have, even over family relations. When there is arguably a public interest dimension, they are expected to take the advice of senior civil servants, who essentially decide for them. They have to find acceptable ways of being themselves within those confines. I don’t envy them and I think William and Catherine manage that very well, because they approach it like a job, not an entitlement. Andrew MW was / is entitled. He doesn’t seem to get that it’s not the 19th century any more. He needed to earn deference and he failed spectacularly. Consequently, he has been shamed publicly and banished.

Actually, I thought she was quite lively and engaging, which worked well on a live talk show. Cate Blanchett was more serious and they balanced each other out well.

Completely agree, I have a colleague like HW - annoying.

Thought everyone came across very well apart from HW.

Exactly. Been training for this his whole life, I'd expect him to do it well, but it isn't a given.

Yes Erskine-may pretty much forbids discussing issue relating to the monarchy within Parliament that needs to change and change fast.

What's your full and considered view on this question?

I assume you have one, since you asked.

This made me giggle. “Remember that time, when we were a republic?”

When the guy what told everyone admitted he made it up?

I thought that had been firmly established, but boy, do the Sussex Squad love to keep it going.

Anyone who repeats this does it out of pure spite. They must be sad sacks.

There are similar rumours about H and M, but I don't go into those on hear because:

• I'm not a spiteful saddo
• they are rumours
• what business are they of anyone else but H & M anyway?

He made it up after spending a weekend at Soho House where Meghan was also staying. She was pissed off because, not yet engaged to H, she hadn't been invited to a state banquet or similar that weekend. Harry had instead been seated next to Rose Hanbury, and we can only surmise that M was typically eaten up with jealousy and helped cook up a nasty rumour to take revenge on both Rose and M's perceived rival, Catherine.

But hey - why let the truth get in the way of a nasty story?

How long after the pitiful complaint “Catherine didn’t take me shopping” printed by a Toronto Gossip columnist was this?

I’m just watching it. He sounds like he knows what he’s talking about, he’s been good humoured with everyone. I’ve seen much more awkward guests in the past, I wouldn’t say this is his comfort zone at all and he held his own.

Quite!

But in a way, it's no surprise this rubbish is being brought up yet again - the SS are truly desperate now, and it shows from the pathetic posts on here.

And whatever you think of the monarchy, quite honestly we've got bigger problems just now.

To dismantle the system would be comparable to the Brexit disaster: 10 years of public consultation, public information/education on the different options, re-jigging the constitution, electing a president etc etc.

It wouldn't happen overnight and honestly, I don't think the British public care enough.

I'm old, but I really do think the population has been dumbed down. Far fewer people now take an interest in politics or current affairs and the political climate here, as elsewhere, is in danger of tipping over into dangerour populism: simple answers to complicated questions. Personally I dread to think who might be chosen as our HoS. KC is doing a cracking job so let him get on with it.

I think constitutional deconstruction is the last thing we need at the moment, with the govt advising us to prep for wartime-style emergencies and shortages.

I think you mean Giles Coren who wasn’t the original source. But hey ho.

Obviously not, it’s hundreds of years ago.

Russia and the USA have presidents.

Hundreds of countries have presidents as head of state.

How long do you intend to wait?

Right and there’s a good bit of evidence that source was a certain angry sister in law.

I haven’t watched it but I saw a headline that he made a ‘joke’ about an elderly man mixing him up with Prince the singer. Really?? Does anyone else feel that did not happen ?

I know William will have been rehearsed within an inch of his life for this but this story felt like the result of a PR ‘let’s make William look less pompous’ polished up anecdote.

Obviously the man couldn’t have been looking at William as the real Prince couldn’t have looked more different.So he was saying this without looking at William ?
Ok.
But an elderly man expecting Prince? It’s mainly women who liked Prince. But mocking an elderly woman- elderly women being his main support demographic- wouldn’t look good so…

Maybe it did happen. Who knows. The whole story just struck me as a bit odd.
I know all celebrities polish anecdotes before chat shows of course they do - they are entertainers . We have always been told that it is crass when ‘royals’ go on chat shows as they are above all that .

Maybe I’ve been side eyeing the Windsors and their PR too long.

Anyway Earthshot is greenwashing for super polluter William .

So you didn’t watch it?