Ham pr disasters 54! ….the relentless reconciliation edition…

[jeffgoldblum]

Apologies for my tardiness! , the last thread finished unexpectedly!!! 😱

My educated guess is ‘the letter’ was a communication from someone like the FBI not a random letter from an individual.

Lordie, are you saying that Mm lied every time she told the world that she cut him off because he was colluding with the papps and selling stuff to the press?

How will we ever trust a thing she says again!

It would be the prudent thing to do but I can't see it happening. I think they both have very poor emotional intelligence. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them cuts and runs, blames the whole sorry mess of the last 8 years entirely on the other.

I'm not saying the Royal Family all knew, or that anyone should be judged on allegations alone. But the public deserves to know how this was handled, particularly given the years of criticism Meghan faced for distancing herself from her father.

It was not for the Royal Family to ‘handle’ anything.

Information was given to the Metropolitan Police.
That is for them to deal with; nobody else.

And what are the chances that she, and she alone - not even a RF member at this time - was taken aside and shown this letter containing dangerous allegations about her dad, but the RF were left in the dark about this man who was about to become kin?

Surely his daughter, with everything at her disposal and who has an apparent freakish attention to detail is quite capable of picking up a phone to see how the investigation is progressing or if indeed the palace were informed pushing it with them? Though why anyone thinks it is up to the Palace to see if a man in Mexico who has never set foot in the UK is being investigated for these allegations is beyond me, no doubt it will be William’s fault next.

What have the Special Protection team got to do with it?

but the RF were left in the dark about this man who was about to become kin?

According to the mail this happened after H&M were married.

From the FBI to the Met or to Meghan?

So the timeline seems to be - pre wedding and pre allegations, Meghan distances herself, Harry doesn’t meet his FIL, TM uninvited to the wedding. This predates so was nothing to do with any allegations of abuse.

May 2018 they get married

Summer 2018 she learns of the allegations

August 2018 she writes to him, has a go at him for talking to the media, doesn’t mention the allegations or that she was going NC for that reason

2018-2022 stays quiet, allowing alleged crimes against children to continue while positioning herself as a campaigner for children’s safety online

2022 Harry says it’s all his fault, if it weren’t for him, Meghan would still have a relationship with her father

2022-2026 stays quiet

As this thread is about pr and in that spirit looking at it solely through that lens….PR disaster? Or PR win?
it’s also not passed me by that the timing has conveniently knocked Williams appearance on Graham Norton off the news.

Couldn’t agree with this more!

We have no idea who the letter was from. Maybe anonymous? Maybe from the FBI? The Met may have assured MM that authorities were dealing with it if they received the letter from foreign authorities who were dealing with it.
Obviously, if the Met received an anonymous tip-off then caution would be required and it would be more about protecting MM and the RF from the associated bad PR.
It's sad, but the Met can't go chasing after alleged US paedophiles living in countries that aren't even in the Commonwealth. Bringing TM to justice, if he is guilty, really would be nothing to do with the Met.
This is all making a hell of a PR case study for the up and coming communications specialists.

Let us hope that this will be investigated thoroughly.

M’s statement has thrown up so many questions.

Given spurious allegations have been made by H&M in the past, it is of course entirely possible that this is a headline grabber to deflect from something else.

One would be forgiven for thinking they are happy for anyone to be thrown under the bus in order to protect themselves. Who better than an estranged father?

As despicable as AMW is, I still believe that he was a headline grabber/scapegoat to deflect from bigger names being called to question.

People would also be forgiven for wondering if this was in the same vein.

She also contacted TM in August 2018 through the infamous "5 friends letter" - which is really odd if you have reported him to the police

So many odd incidents in Meghan's life occur through the medium of letters - which seems rather strange these days when texts and emails exist

Haven’t read the whole thread as too long too fast but who sells / buys teapots in America? The problems we’ve had buying “hot black tea” in every state we’ve been to. Last time, Denver airport Starbucks - said hot tea on the board, I pointed out the breakfast tea bags on the shelf but when it got to all 5 staff having a lengthy discussion round the till about it and still no one making the drink I left. Found a cafe with it on the menu, was shown the tea bag and asked if I just wanted to buy the bag or wanted water with it. So, who buys teapots?

And at the same time Thomas Markle Snr travels to Mexico, then goes to live in The Philippines then goes back to live in America, if an investigation was ongoing especially given the seriousness of the allegations how the hell was he able to travel freely?

This appears to be it.

Also - if it were any other subject, people would be absolutely horrified at any suggestion that the RF had any influence on the police.

100% PR disaster!

They sat on information about these allegations for 8 years, putting out an alternative narrative that obscured the truth of why they were no contact. I don’t see how that’s not a cover up?

They were consumed with petty jealously and upset over perceived slights with the RF and had to let the world know all about how awful they are……yet they didn’t nothing about Markle Snr and the awful things he’s alleged to have committed?

They look like awful human beings

2022-2026 stays quiet

Or not?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0je4v8j0vzo

Was that the controversial letter to TM, and the involvement of the publication by said friends which ended up being taken to court?

I think the way MM has handled this so far makes it an irretrievable lose-lose situation for her.

She gave out info that she didn't need to that raises so many questions about her conduct since hearing of the allegations. She should have just said something along the lines of "shocked and waiting to hear more from official channels".

As for W on the Graham Norton show, he shines in comparison, a bit of normality to contrast with the HAM batshit-show of the last few weeks.

"Events, dear Boy/Girl!" to misquote Harold MacMillan!!! 😂

I really hope that at the very least H and M will be removed from the Royal Website. It's contradictory and confusing to have them on there at all, but (especially after the AMW scandal) there's now even more reason to just draw a line and cut them loose.