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H&M PR disasters 52: Roundabouts and walkabouts

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bluegreygreen · Today 10:27

The continuing story of the Sussexes and their PR issues.

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NottingHamz · Today 16:28

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 16:22

*I'm sure the PoW doesn't actually say 'fuck' in moments of exasperation. But he is forgiven when it comes to HaM. They'd drive a saint to using profanity.

I really hope he does.

Reckon they use "markle" as a substitute swear-verb. To markle, it's totally markled up and so on

AcrossthePond55 · Today 16:43

BemusedAmerican · Today 14:37

Well, so far they've pissed off the US, Canada, and Australia. Let's see if they piss off Wales. Harry keeps calling himself the Prince of England, so Wales can say Not My Prince with impunity.

As per Sussex, does Harry know it is an actual existing county?

Harry keeps calling himself the Prince of England

H calling himself The Prince of England™ has given me some moments of amusement. It's like he has to have a title (even a made up one) that is equal to PW's title as 'The Prince of Wales'. I suppose calling himself The Prince of Scotland or The Prince of Northern Ireland sounded silly, even to him. So 'of England' it must be.

It's like he simply doesn't realize that not only does 'The Prince of England' not exist as a title, but that William and Edward are also technically 'princes of England'. Without the capital P, of course.

IcedPurple · Today 16:45

Emma Thynn and Lady Kitty Spencer were among the many high profile guests at the British Museum Gala last night.

Guess who wasn't there?

Imagine being a royal Duchess and officially 3rd lady in the realm. And all you can conjure up is a 'meet and greet' in front of graffiti covered walls in Nottingham. So they flounced out of royal life only to stumble back 7 years later, desperately attempting the most humdrum aspect of the role, while being shut out of the glamorous events they'd have been guest of honour at before.

H&M PR disasters 52: Roundabouts and walkabouts
LookOutLookOutTomCruiseIsAbout · Today 16:45

Handbagsandoldcurtains · Today 16:28

Harry being buried, under the weight of royal duty? Because, yes, I do believe he would go there.

I wouldn’t be surprised if “as a parent and a student of grief…” made an appearance. I really hope he knows how awful this would be and manages to keep his trap shut.

muddyford · Today 16:48

BemusedAmerican · Today 14:30

The current Duke of Gloucester, his wife, and Sophie attended the reburial of Richard III, who had been Duke of Gloucester before becoming king. He is also the patron for the Richard III society. Richard III's new coffin was made from wood from the Duchy of Cornwall.

The Duke of Bedford lives in the county of Bedfordshire.

BemusedAmerican · Today 16:48

I had a flashback to poor Dr. Raj restraining himself from the Valium while watching that Masterclass video. 😁

MrsGusset · Today 16:49

HarryTheRegent · Today 14:57

If anyone is on Facebook marketplace then you might like this little gem.

Some of the Sussex superfans are adept at producing artworks that are both mawkish & hilarious.

One of my favourites depicted Diana in angel form reaching down from heaven to enfold Meghan in her wings while whispering “Thank you for looking after my little Spencer.”

AcrossthePond55 · Today 16:56

AutumnCrowInTheTrafficFlow · Today 15:09

Hasn’t Meg always loved an entourage, even as a minor cable actor? I believe she hired/grifted a lot of assistants and companions.

She lives and breathes entourage. It’s been part of her psyche for over 15 years.

Hasn’t Meg always loved an entourage

Well she's got a ways to go before she equals Beyonce, of whom she's been described as 'an admirer'. Bey's 'festival and special appearance' entourage is usually around 100 total. Her big stadium shows touring entourage numbers around 300.

Wonder how many were in the 'entourage' in Nottingham?

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:57

IcedPurple · Today 16:45

Emma Thynn and Lady Kitty Spencer were among the many high profile guests at the British Museum Gala last night.

Guess who wasn't there?

Imagine being a royal Duchess and officially 3rd lady in the realm. And all you can conjure up is a 'meet and greet' in front of graffiti covered walls in Nottingham. So they flounced out of royal life only to stumble back 7 years later, desperately attempting the most humdrum aspect of the role, while being shut out of the glamorous events they'd have been guest of honour at before.

Slightly off topic….im really not a fan of this sudden craze for wearing a long dress but sticking your whole leg out for photos! , it looks silly…🤷‍♀️

IdaGlossop · Today 16:58

I think drone-enabled footage may be key to HAM's future. After NottingHaM, crowds will get smaller. Schools will refuse to turn out to line shabby streets because parents will kick up a fuss. Council taxpayers will object to scarce resources being used to police events and fund plastic barriers. Charities will decline opportunities to partner with them. So their attempts to be 'royals who work' may wither on the vine as drone footage shows that contrary to what they believe, crowds are tiny.

(I'm in optimistic mode this afternoon)

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Today 16:58

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:57

Slightly off topic….im really not a fan of this sudden craze for wearing a long dress but sticking your whole leg out for photos! , it looks silly…🤷‍♀️

Emma Thynne always does that, it's irritating.

AutumnCrowInTheTrafficFlow · Today 16:59

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 14:02

You're spot on in theory, Alexandra, but the attitude of ministers to all this has been widely discussed on here and I honestly don't think there's much hope to be found from that quarter, nor any chance of action which might disoblige the royals

I reckon the main ministerial HaM fan has always been Yvette Cooper and her star is very much in the downward trajectory now she’s stuck in Health with, in her eyes, an insufficient budget. She’s being told ‘No’ a lot by the Treasury and No 10.

It’s a far cry from her Home and Foreign Office days.

Then there’s the whole Shabana Mahmood / Birmingham / IDF Israel pyramid of potential disasters to contemplate.

IdaGlossop · Today 17:00

AcrossthePond55 · Today 16:56

Hasn’t Meg always loved an entourage

Well she's got a ways to go before she equals Beyonce, of whom she's been described as 'an admirer'. Bey's 'festival and special appearance' entourage is usually around 100 total. Her big stadium shows touring entourage numbers around 300.

Wonder how many were in the 'entourage' in Nottingham?

Seven? Four securidee. Two event organisers. One press bod.

SiegfriedSassoon · Today 17:00

Ratherbeadolphin · Today 10:51

No 51 filled up as I was composing a reply to an excellent post by LookOutLookOutTomCruiseIsAbout

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/theroyalfamily/5589444-hm-pr-disasters-51-advent-calendars-and-engagements?latest=1&reply=155408292&utmcampaign=reply&utmmedium=share

I'm not going to waste it so here it is!

I very much hope that the WRF carry on with their dignified 'grey rocking', approach. It is the only thing that will work long term. What is that expression that has been used on these threads before? Something like

"Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it."

If they can hold their collective nerve the contrast between the WRF and the H+M fake stuff will just become ever starker. Also, so far their appearances in the UK have been with charities they have previously been connected with. Not counting the Malala Yousafzai episode which was a set up for pap shots etc. Hopefully others will be more wary now. Nothing for November or December so far. Remembrance is going to be marked privately and they are off to Montecito for Christmas.

I hope the Invictus board manages to get its act together for next year. The Birmingham City Council officials must be despairing.

PS thanks for the new thread @bluegreygreen

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Harry will absolutely hate having sit out yet another Christmas in Montecito. But I suppose it's their only option to try and save face.

I do feel terribly sorry for his children, when you think of all they are missing at Sandringham. What a rich inheritance (not speaking in monetary terms) of extended family, family history, cultural heritage, tradition, love, meaningful connection, belonging and unity they are missing out on. Cousins, grandparents, connection to their father's own childhood, one half of their heritage. All in such immense privilege and gloriously beautiful surroundings. I expect Harry cannot bear to acknowledge what he has deprived those children of, if he has the capacity to understand the magnitude of it.

Meanwhile they will be flown back to sit in their echoey, empty, souless mansion with whatever excessive materialistic rubbish Meghan inundates them with, in yards of horrible neutral wrapping paper. In the very state where another grandparent sits incapacitated, probably in pain, possibly alone - never having met his grandchildren.

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 17:01

CoffeeCantata · Today 16:17

Isn't it ironic that H & M probably wanted to do a half-in royal life, with all the premieres, state occasions, balcony, carriages etc, but to skip the overcast October day in a Nottingham industrial estate (for example).....?

Oh dear.

Oh dear

H&M PR disasters 52: Roundabouts and walkabouts
IcedPurple · Today 17:02

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:57

Slightly off topic….im really not a fan of this sudden craze for wearing a long dress but sticking your whole leg out for photos! , it looks silly…🤷‍♀️

Reminds me a bit of Angelina Jolie and her famous 'the leg' pose. I like the dress and Emma looks gorgeous, but the pose is a bit

Anyway, between the British Museum Gala and the Clooney's Albie's event last week, that's two London A list galas within as many weeks for which the Sussexes failed to score an invite.

www.hellomagazine.com/fashion/929691/mick-jagger-39-year-old-fiancee-slinky-gold-gown-british-museum-ball/

fuschiaproudparrot · Today 17:03

IcedPurple · Today 16:45

Emma Thynn and Lady Kitty Spencer were among the many high profile guests at the British Museum Gala last night.

Guess who wasn't there?

Imagine being a royal Duchess and officially 3rd lady in the realm. And all you can conjure up is a 'meet and greet' in front of graffiti covered walls in Nottingham. So they flounced out of royal life only to stumble back 7 years later, desperately attempting the most humdrum aspect of the role, while being shut out of the glamorous events they'd have been guest of honour at before.

And Meghan has such a lovely red dress that would fit in nicely ....

canklesmctacotits · Today 17:04

A few random thoughts:
— visas wouldn’t be an issue for the daughter in law of this or indeed any monarch of any country. They’re at the apex of diplomatic favours given and received, same would have applied to Harry in the USA. It’s bread and butter favours between countries, and so part of what makes Meghan feel entitled to swan around using HRH in private and call herself royal wherever she goes. She knows she’s protected…
— …and this is the very reason why these two renegades are a gift on a silver platter to Russia. They’re not low level targets. They’re at the same level as AMW/Epstein: monarch’s son/brother, and look how damaging he has been for the monarchy. Andrew was Missad and Russia, I think Israel isn’t interested in destabilising Charles. I suspect HAM know this and I suspect this is partly why Harry persists re RAVEC (although it’s mostly about costs and appearances and paranoid delusion)
— something is so off about the reality of Nottingham, their behaviour there (excitable, in keeping with a throng of thousands where they might be feted etc) and now the PR after it. I wonder if it’s to do with the camera crew who filmed them throughout, or if there’s something more. Something is or is potentially in the offing.

IdaGlossop · Today 17:07

SiegfriedSassoon · Today 17:00

Harry will absolutely hate having sit out yet another Christmas in Montecito. But I suppose it's their only option to try and save face.

I do feel terribly sorry for his children, when you think of all they are missing at Sandringham. What a rich inheritance (not speaking in monetary terms) of extended family, family history, cultural heritage, tradition, love, meaningful connection, belonging and unity they are missing out on. Cousins, grandparents, connection to their father's own childhood, one half of their heritage. All in such immense privilege and gloriously beautiful surroundings. I expect Harry cannot bear to acknowledge what he has deprived those children of, if he has the capacity to understand the magnitude of it.

Meanwhile they will be flown back to sit in their echoey, empty, souless mansion with whatever excessive materialistic rubbish Meghan inundates them with, in yards of horrible neutral wrapping paper. In the very state where another grandparent sits incapacitated, probably in pain, possibly alone - never having met his grandchildren.

Tom Bower says the Montecito mansion is up for sale. It may be a camping-on-the-beach Christmas if they get a quick sale.

Lifestooshort71 · Today 17:07

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Today 16:58

Emma Thynne always does that, it's irritating.

Perhaps she only shaves the one?

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Today 17:11

Lifestooshort71 · Today 17:07

Perhaps she only shaves the one?

Maybe! I like her, I think she's intelligent and interesting and has worked very hard to promote and organise Longleat. Her cookery shows are excellent and she's very talented. However, always the one leg!

AcrossthePond55 · Today 17:12

IdaGlossop · Today 16:58

I think drone-enabled footage may be key to HAM's future. After NottingHaM, crowds will get smaller. Schools will refuse to turn out to line shabby streets because parents will kick up a fuss. Council taxpayers will object to scarce resources being used to police events and fund plastic barriers. Charities will decline opportunities to partner with them. So their attempts to be 'royals who work' may wither on the vine as drone footage shows that contrary to what they believe, crowds are tiny.

(I'm in optimistic mode this afternoon)

From your keyboard to God's monitor!

OccasionalHope · Today 17:13

canklesmctacotits · Today 17:04

A few random thoughts:
— visas wouldn’t be an issue for the daughter in law of this or indeed any monarch of any country. They’re at the apex of diplomatic favours given and received, same would have applied to Harry in the USA. It’s bread and butter favours between countries, and so part of what makes Meghan feel entitled to swan around using HRH in private and call herself royal wherever she goes. She knows she’s protected…
— …and this is the very reason why these two renegades are a gift on a silver platter to Russia. They’re not low level targets. They’re at the same level as AMW/Epstein: monarch’s son/brother, and look how damaging he has been for the monarchy. Andrew was Missad and Russia, I think Israel isn’t interested in destabilising Charles. I suspect HAM know this and I suspect this is partly why Harry persists re RAVEC (although it’s mostly about costs and appearances and paranoid delusion)
— something is so off about the reality of Nottingham, their behaviour there (excitable, in keeping with a throng of thousands where they might be feted etc) and now the PR after it. I wonder if it’s to do with the camera crew who filmed them throughout, or if there’s something more. Something is or is potentially in the offing.

But they made a big deal when she initially moved in with H that she was following the visa rules and wasn't asking for any special treatment.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 17:13

Lifestooshort71 · Today 17:07

Perhaps she only shaves the one?

V Beckham has been doing that for ages, to the point that there were jokes about her only having one leg.

Re the visa issue, everyone but the monarch requires one. Same for passports. My understanding from a bit of research is that the royals have VIP diplomatic status and a special area at airports for this to be handled.

Presumably also applies to MM as the wife of a prince.

notimagain · Today 17:17

My understanding from a bit of research is that the royals have VIP diplomatic status and a special area at airports for this to be handled.

HoS aside they often as not simply use the established airport or terminal VIP facilities, which usually come with border/customs clearance as part of the package...