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Ham pr disasters 48! …a masterclass in grief grifting…

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jeffgoldblum · 08/10/2026 19:07

Still interested, still not bored….a small request please 🙏…can we try to keep criticism to actions and behaviour and rather than getting personal.😁

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Lunde · 11/10/2026 11:48

LifeIsTooShort247 · 11/10/2026 11:41

Can we stop weaponizing words that don’t apply? A grifter is someone who legally defrauds people. So unless you can prove they have done this it shouldn't be used. Disliking how they make their living or criticising their output is totally valid, but calling it a 'grift' is using the wrong word just to make an insult sound more serious than it is.

Why do we even need to buy As Ever products? Why doesn't Meghan urge people to donate directly?

Because Meghan gets paid or it artificially boost her sales figures - and that's the grift

LookOutLookOutTomCruiseIsAbout · 11/10/2026 11:49

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 11:15

She looks ok. When she was a girl she had a lot of surgery.

I was talking about her expression, looking less than thrilled, not remarking on her injuries.

fuschiaproudparrot · 11/10/2026 11:51

Dontevenlookatme · 11/10/2026 11:46

I think the poster may have meant her expression. I’ve certainly seen Malala looking happier.

I saw her on the Graham Norton show where she recounted the story about how her mother told Prince Harry off for putting his arm around her . He seems to have a habit of touching women in inappropriate or cultural settings. Men too of course.

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 11:53

LookOutLookOutTomCruiseIsAbout · 11/10/2026 11:49

I was talking about her expression, looking less than thrilled, not remarking on her injuries.

Well, she still looks ok to me.

Kingsandqueenz · 11/10/2026 11:56

fuschiaproudparrot · 11/10/2026 11:51

I saw her on the Graham Norton show where she recounted the story about how her mother told Prince Harry off for putting his arm around her . He seems to have a habit of touching women in inappropriate or cultural settings. Men too of course.

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Meghan was completely invading Malala's personal space outside Claridges for the photo ops.

It was obvious Malala was uncomfortable with the overfamilarity & didn't reciprocate the touchy feely actions from Meghan, she stood with her hands firmly by her side.

Again no self awareness from Meghan but the cameras never lie.

fuschiaproudparrot · 11/10/2026 11:56

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 11/10/2026 11:21

it transcended into viciousness when MM posted the swan emoji - very happy to let the world know she enjoyed the public character assassination of her FIL

Do you get the impression that MM enjoys the satisfaction of immediate revenge without thinking of longer term consequences?

I'd assume BP are watching the behaviour of both of them and drawing some conclusions from it.

I think she must be a seriously deluded person - she must really think people love her. Seems to have little idea of how she is perceived by many.

If I wanted to donate to a charity I would choose very carefully to look at how much of the donation gets to the intended destination. She wouldn't be a person I would consider with her lavish displays.

NellyOlsenn · 11/10/2026 11:58

Kingsandqueenz · 11/10/2026 11:31

Yes it would have been great for both of them either a year or two out. Initially the British public were very welcoming of Meghan & were very happy to see Harry settling down.
However Meghan said herself she was "boots on the ground " & "hitting the ground running ".. Space to learn & grow would have been great for both of them to learn the ropes as a couple.
Harry obviously had plenty of appearance experience but a lot were also with W&C as a trio.

But she didn’t want to learn about the RF. The eyes were always on the prize billionaire Hollywood elite lifestyle destination. She was never staying the boots on the ground / ready for action was to accumulate enough status, brand recognition, reputation etc to fix deals and catapult her back to Cali. Same thing is happening now - but her STBXH doesn’t realise.

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 11:58

Kingsandqueenz · 11/10/2026 11:56

Meghan was completely invading Malala's personal space outside Claridges for the photo ops.

It was obvious Malala was uncomfortable with the overfamilarity & didn't reciprocate the touchy feely actions from Meghan, she stood with her hands firmly by her side.

Again no self awareness from Meghan but the cameras never lie.

Ok, I'm not a fan of Meghan, but you cannot tell, from a couple of images, what Malala was thinking or feeling.

AlexandraCarrington · 11/10/2026 11:58

I would say that it's as close to half in/half out as they can get and in my view it's to force the RF to bring them back into the fold.

But what they wanted with half in, half out was the glitzy glamorous bits - carriage rides, balcony appearances, state banquets, dress uniforms for H. (Don't think M ever got to do a state banquet, did she?) They will never, ever be allowed to do any of that again.

And M has shown she can't behave at relatively low key, non-state occasions such as garden parties which even Zara and Mike attend, so they won't be asked to those either. So what is there for them to do?

muddyford · 11/10/2026 12:00

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 11:15

She looks ok. When she was a girl she had a lot of surgery.

I think it's her expression being referred to, not the structure of her face.

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 12:01

muddyford · 11/10/2026 12:00

I think it's her expression being referred to, not the structure of her face.

As I said, I think her expression looks ok

occhiali · 11/10/2026 12:03

The eyes were always on the prize billionaire Hollywood elite lifestyle destination

I feel she will end up as stuck as the person she seems to channel most. Like WS she is in a predicament of her own making.

And now she is likely no longer to wiggle herself on to a lap of luxury. That opportunity has gone. Possibly due to the passing of time. More likely due to the unwanted fuss that accompanies her.

NellyOlsenn · 11/10/2026 12:04

LifeIsTooShort247 · 11/10/2026 11:41

Can we stop weaponizing words that don’t apply? A grifter is someone who legally defrauds people. So unless you can prove they have done this it shouldn't be used. Disliking how they make their living or criticising their output is totally valid, but calling it a 'grift' is using the wrong word just to make an insult sound more serious than it is.

Well the first person to call them ‘Fuxking grifters’ was the head of Spotify who had struck a deal with them ‘worked’ closely with them and came to that conclusion and definition of their behaviours and operations.

So I will be sticking with that descriptor of H&M as it has come from someone with actual long suffering, hands on, direct, personal experience ‘collaborating’ with them.

Kingsandqueenz · 11/10/2026 12:04

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 11:58

Ok, I'm not a fan of Meghan, but you cannot tell, from a couple of images, what Malala was thinking or feeling.

I'm not a body language expert but I feel that Meghan was acting overfamilar & deliberately touchy feely knowing the cameras were there. Malala didn't reciprocate the touchiness.
Also the front entrance of the hotel was used for maximum exposure, the hotel has a side entrance that vips that don't want to be papped use.

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 12:05

Kingsandqueenz · 11/10/2026 12:04

I'm not a body language expert but I feel that Meghan was acting overfamilar & deliberately touchy feely knowing the cameras were there. Malala didn't reciprocate the touchiness.
Also the front entrance of the hotel was used for maximum exposure, the hotel has a side entrance that vips that don't want to be papped use.

Well, who knows. My only point is that you really can't tell what Malala is thinking or feeling.
That's all.

Mylovelygreendress · 11/10/2026 12:07

Lunde · 11/10/2026 11:46

The ad is carefully worded as "proceeds" - does Meghan mean profits? or full gross receipts? If it is the profits Meghan still gets paid for the product! And does Archewell get a cut?

It has also been noted by the eagle eyed that a lot os Meghan's stock has late 2026/early 2027 expiry dates. So a charity sale is a great way to get paid for products that can't be sold in a few months.

In fact it's exactly the tactics used by MLM "huns" when they have a garage full of Aloe gloop, make-up, juice etc .... they announce a "collaboration" to send "care packages" to hospitals, hospices, care homes etc that the gullible donate to to... yet the MLM hun still gets paid the money for the sale.

If this was totally charity driven - why do we need to buy As Ever products at all? Just donate directly to Malala's charity!

It clearly says NET proceeds .

Kingsandqueenz · 11/10/2026 12:07

OctopusFriend · 11/10/2026 12:05

Well, who knows. My only point is that you really can't tell what Malala is thinking or feeling.
That's all.

Fair enough I'm only making my unqualified assessment based on how she doesn't reciprocate Meghan's gestures when Meghan is clearly invading her personal space.

Warmhandscoldheart · 11/10/2026 12:13

In their 'these are upcoming events' article, I'm curious which patronages MM thinks she can resume. Surely they were royal patronages and they're not WR anymore.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 11/10/2026 12:13

What also jumps out at me from those Claridges photos is how Meghan is centred in the photo - they should both be in the centre rather than Malala pushed off to the side. Urgh.

TheAutumnCrow · 11/10/2026 12:13

twinklystar23 · 11/10/2026 10:37

Hate to say it but now the mail has challenged on this as well as how Paul dacre and DM journalists conducted themselves against a high profile mob (and winning the ANL case on all 94/97 allegations) is earning them renewed respect from me.

I know am prepared to be slated!!

Does it also make you wonder who’s funding the Sentebale case against Harry and Dyer, set to examine the evidence around the machinations of the Sussex Squad? Because I’m having a bit of a ponder, I must admit.

Starryfifty · 11/10/2026 12:14

Kingsandqueenz · 11/10/2026 08:25

Thank you. It's interesting this one isn't behind a pay wall. It's funny the articles reporting they won't be invited to Sandringham him for Christmas, that was always a given. The royal family aren't fools & I can't imagine H&M will ever spend Christmas there again.

Returning to charities they supported when working royals? Would these patronages not be removed when they stepped down? How does it work ?

BunnyBunbunbun · 11/10/2026 12:18

LifeIsTooShort247 · 11/10/2026 11:41

Can we stop weaponizing words that don’t apply? A grifter is someone who legally defrauds people. So unless you can prove they have done this it shouldn't be used. Disliking how they make their living or criticising their output is totally valid, but calling it a 'grift' is using the wrong word just to make an insult sound more serious than it is.

Grifter is what they were literally called by the Spotify podcast exec who became exasperated with them. It's therefore apt to say that the business people they attempt to partner with consider them grifters. I'm not sure grifter is even a legal term or means fraud, as you imply. It just means a con artist, someone who is deceptive in order to benefit financially. If they were presenting proposals to Spotify that, e.g. they had loads of content arranged, lots of people who'd agreed to be a podcast guest, and Spotify naively believed all that and gave them a deal on that basis but in reality they produced very little content, then I think it's fair to call them grifters.

"Spotify’s head of podcast innovation and monetisation has labelled Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex “grifters” after their $20m, multi-year deal to make podcasts with the streaming platform came to an end after they made just 12 episodes."

jeffgoldblum · 11/10/2026 12:18

What I don’t understand about this new spread grift …is how exactly it’s going to be bought by U.K. consumers? , firstly i wasn’t aware it had been cleared for sale here and secondly if it’s being bought from her US website and shipped here ( is that set up yet?) the shipping and taxes will be astronomical and more expensive than the product! ….can someone explain the logistics to me?

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IcedPurple · 11/10/2026 12:19

Starryfifty · 11/10/2026 12:14

Returning to charities they supported when working royals? Would these patronages not be removed when they stepped down? How does it work ?

Only the official royal patronages, such as Harry's military roles and Meghan's patronage of the National Theatre, were removed. If charities such as Smartworks or WellChild want to continue working with the Sussexes, that's up to them.

Starryfifty · 11/10/2026 12:20

IcedPurple · 11/10/2026 12:19

Only the official royal patronages, such as Harry's military roles and Meghan's patronage of the National Theatre, were removed. If charities such as Smartworks or WellChild want to continue working with the Sussexes, that's up to them.

Thanks Iced

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