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Ham pr disasters 48! …a masterclass in grief grifting…

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jeffgoldblum · 08/10/2026 19:07

Still interested, still not bored….a small request please 🙏…can we try to keep criticism to actions and behaviour and rather than getting personal.😁

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jeffgoldblum · 10/10/2026 16:57

EmpressSisi · 10/10/2026 16:52

It was probably just some posho ginge but it makes for a fun story 🤣🫣

My lips are sealed….we can both tell everyone that prince harry helped you get a taxi and i danced with and almost got off with vin diesel! 😉🤣

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ilovemykindle · 10/10/2026 17:05

While arranging our dds wedding Donny Osmond came in the room.
I believe Gary Barlow goes there as well but I didn't see him.

EmpressSisi · 10/10/2026 17:10

See, I don’t think Harry is necessarily bad looking, but I wouldn’t say he’s particularly good looking either. I’ve never really found him attractive because he has quite a ruddy complexion, very small, deep set, close set eyes, and has always looked a bit scruffy. I also think he has an awkward hair texture that, when kept short, always seemed to look quite frizzy and frazzled, making his hair look perpetually untidy. Now add the balding into the mix (which I wouldn’t necessarily criticise him for in itself, but seeing as he’s opened that can of worms with William, all’s fair!) His slightly scruffy appearance worked when he was in his twenties and thirties, but as he’s got older, it’s become less endearing and more like he’s depressed and can’t look after himself.

William, on the other hand, has always been quite handsome. He has a classically handsome face. His main problem was that his hair loss made him look much older than he actually was and detracted from his overall appearance when we were used to seeing him with thick blonde hair as a youth. In fact, I think he looks better now than he did ten years ago, when he was still trying to fight a losing battle with his hair. Once he embraced the baldness, got rid of what little hair he had left, and balanced it out with some facial hair, he started looking good again. I still sometimes find myself thinking, “Wow, William is actually still quite handsome,” when he’s wearing a hat.

I also think a lot of it comes down to presentation. William is generally comes across as cheerful and approachable, and is always well dressed and smiling. You might not particularly like his style, but he’s consistently neat and presentable. Harry, by contrast, often looks sullen and miserable, rarely seems to smile, and always seems to be moaning about something. Add his scruffy appearance to that, and I think it all contributes to how the two of them are perceived.

Attractiveness isn’t just about your facial features. Your demeanour, grooming, and the way you present yourself all make a difference, too. You can have objectively good features, but if you constantly look miserable, unkempt, and like you haven’t made an effort, it’s inevitably going to affect how attractive people find you.

Kingsandqueenz · 10/10/2026 17:13

EmpressSisi · 10/10/2026 17:10

See, I don’t think Harry is necessarily bad looking, but I wouldn’t say he’s particularly good looking either. I’ve never really found him attractive because he has quite a ruddy complexion, very small, deep set, close set eyes, and has always looked a bit scruffy. I also think he has an awkward hair texture that, when kept short, always seemed to look quite frizzy and frazzled, making his hair look perpetually untidy. Now add the balding into the mix (which I wouldn’t necessarily criticise him for in itself, but seeing as he’s opened that can of worms with William, all’s fair!) His slightly scruffy appearance worked when he was in his twenties and thirties, but as he’s got older, it’s become less endearing and more like he’s depressed and can’t look after himself.

William, on the other hand, has always been quite handsome. He has a classically handsome face. His main problem was that his hair loss made him look much older than he actually was and detracted from his overall appearance when we were used to seeing him with thick blonde hair as a youth. In fact, I think he looks better now than he did ten years ago, when he was still trying to fight a losing battle with his hair. Once he embraced the baldness, got rid of what little hair he had left, and balanced it out with some facial hair, he started looking good again. I still sometimes find myself thinking, “Wow, William is actually still quite handsome,” when he’s wearing a hat.

I also think a lot of it comes down to presentation. William is generally comes across as cheerful and approachable, and is always well dressed and smiling. You might not particularly like his style, but he’s consistently neat and presentable. Harry, by contrast, often looks sullen and miserable, rarely seems to smile, and always seems to be moaning about something. Add his scruffy appearance to that, and I think it all contributes to how the two of them are perceived.

Attractiveness isn’t just about your facial features. Your demeanour, grooming, and the way you present yourself all make a difference, too. You can have objectively good features, but if you constantly look miserable, unkempt, and like you haven’t made an effort, it’s inevitably going to affect how attractive people find you.

Yes you are right , William's facial hair made all the difference to his balding journey, he id looking very well.

MargaretThursday · 10/10/2026 17:25

notimagain · 10/10/2026 11:26

I've not seen any footage showing blue lights and TBH those vehicles/that combination/that number of vehicles doesn't really fit with how at least some IPPs/VIPs travel.

TBH I'm inclined to agree that it does look awfully like someone took a run at a high end car rental outfit or decided to go out and buy the Action Man mini- presidential convoy kit.

I'll no doubt be proved wrong but to my amateur eye it doesn't look like any HMG would have provided.

Also I've seen any number of unmarked police cars and none have blue lights flashing on their numberplates. Some have them in the grill at the front, but not on the numberplates
This sounds like someone who never has seen an unmarked police car making guesses where they might have the lights, rather than an eye witness.

IAmATorturedPoet · 10/10/2026 17:44

JSMill · 10/10/2026 16:36

My brother and I still argue about whether we shared a lift with Phil Collins coming down from the World Trade Centre restaurant in 1986!

Phil Collins stopped for me once at a zebra crossing in Battersea in 1989!😊
Love me a bit of Phil 🎶 🎶

Can’t say I’m feeling any sympathy for Harry at the Rugby, he got a reality check and it probably won’t be the last one he gets. 🤷‍♀️

Frenchjamisbest · 10/10/2026 17:57

There are no depths this pair won't sink to. I'm genuinely shocked and appalled.

Kingsandqueenz · 10/10/2026 18:03

Frenchjamisbest · 10/10/2026 17:57

There are no depths this pair won't sink to. I'm genuinely shocked and appalled.

Literally everything has a price with them or it's transactional...

AlexandraCarrington · 10/10/2026 18:42

Can’t say I’m feeling any sympathy for Harry at the Rugby,

A couple of commenters on the DM site said why didn't he bring Archie, like William takes George to the football. But if that's the sort of reception he, or they, are going to get, it will be difficult to take the children anywhere.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 10/10/2026 18:46

Not to mention that the pictures might actually show Archie's face and spoil the big reveal, whenever it is.

Kingsandqueenz · 10/10/2026 18:47

Well it's self inflicted, they only have themselves to blame. They can be mature & explain to Archie & Lili why they're lives are so restrictive in comparison to their cousins... but they won't they'll blame everyone else.

canklesmctacotits · 10/10/2026 18:55

The whole security convoy thing is, I’m sure, the private firm scaring the bejeesus out of them with documented “extracts” from the internet of death threats. HAM already think they’re massively victimized and the most at-risk royals because they left. Actually, they thought they were considered a dangerous threat and therefore at PR risk from RF members and physical risk from their sycophants “just by existing” even before they left, so this is hardly a great leap. So, the convoy will be because the security firm has scared the living daylights out of them because they want $$$ (and it can be a lucrative business for ex-army folk) and HAM not applying any critical thought to their actual risk level and not having a govt agency not motivated by profit to help them assess actual risk. One acid attack, one lone knife man I think Harry said? I think he genuinely thinks that way.

(Obvs back in the real world none of this makes sense. Just saying what I think is going on.)

BunnyBunbunbun · 10/10/2026 19:12

AlexandraCarrington · 10/10/2026 18:42

Can’t say I’m feeling any sympathy for Harry at the Rugby,

A couple of commenters on the DM site said why didn't he bring Archie, like William takes George to the football. But if that's the sort of reception he, or they, are going to get, it will be difficult to take the children anywhere.

Archie is a bit younger than George so might not be that up to sitting through a whole rugby match yet, but did't Harry apparently say something about wanting to teach Archie to play rugby? One day Archie and Lili will want to go to a rugby or football match. At some point, they're going to have to stop hiding the kids.

It's a bit sad for Harry that the only person he found to drag out with him is his Spencer cousin, George McCorquodale. His cousins from Diana's sisters are pretty quiet and low key and have never been in the public eye, so Harry should leave them alone.

SqueakyDinosaur · 10/10/2026 19:24

Starryfifty · 10/10/2026 17:50

Dr Raj Persaud's take on how damaging it is to use Harry as part of a grief masterclass

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MscJGkxcGlw&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D&ra=m

On Lauren the Insider's intro to that video, the subtitles refer to Harry's "masterass" which I really liked.

Frenchjamisbest · 10/10/2026 19:33

Harry won't bring Archie because of 'securidee'.

KatherineParr · 10/10/2026 19:33

canklesmctacotits · 10/10/2026 18:55

The whole security convoy thing is, I’m sure, the private firm scaring the bejeesus out of them with documented “extracts” from the internet of death threats. HAM already think they’re massively victimized and the most at-risk royals because they left. Actually, they thought they were considered a dangerous threat and therefore at PR risk from RF members and physical risk from their sycophants “just by existing” even before they left, so this is hardly a great leap. So, the convoy will be because the security firm has scared the living daylights out of them because they want $$$ (and it can be a lucrative business for ex-army folk) and HAM not applying any critical thought to their actual risk level and not having a govt agency not motivated by profit to help them assess actual risk. One acid attack, one lone knife man I think Harry said? I think he genuinely thinks that way.

(Obvs back in the real world none of this makes sense. Just saying what I think is going on.)

I agree with this. Two things stood out to me recently. One was that Harry's private security firm submitted evidence to RAVEC saying that Harry & co were at risk and needed security. They weren't exactly a disinterested party; if RAVEC don't provide H&M with security, they benefit from getting Harry to sign up to their most comprehensive (i.e. expensive) packages. This was closely followed by the description of one of Harry's security men as a close friend. He's an employee, with his own vested interests. It feels like Harry has surrounded by people who have seen they can profit from him, whilst alienating himself from most of the people who would have provided him with more disinterested advice

Kingsandqueenz · 10/10/2026 19:35

KatherineParr · 10/10/2026 19:33

I agree with this. Two things stood out to me recently. One was that Harry's private security firm submitted evidence to RAVEC saying that Harry & co were at risk and needed security. They weren't exactly a disinterested party; if RAVEC don't provide H&M with security, they benefit from getting Harry to sign up to their most comprehensive (i.e. expensive) packages. This was closely followed by the description of one of Harry's security men as a close friend. He's an employee, with his own vested interests. It feels like Harry has surrounded by people who have seen they can profit from him, whilst alienating himself from most of the people who would have provided him with more disinterested advice

Karma sure Harry & Meghan saw the royal family & their loved ones private lives as profit

IcedPurple · 10/10/2026 19:35

canklesmctacotits · 10/10/2026 18:55

The whole security convoy thing is, I’m sure, the private firm scaring the bejeesus out of them with documented “extracts” from the internet of death threats. HAM already think they’re massively victimized and the most at-risk royals because they left. Actually, they thought they were considered a dangerous threat and therefore at PR risk from RF members and physical risk from their sycophants “just by existing” even before they left, so this is hardly a great leap. So, the convoy will be because the security firm has scared the living daylights out of them because they want $$$ (and it can be a lucrative business for ex-army folk) and HAM not applying any critical thought to their actual risk level and not having a govt agency not motivated by profit to help them assess actual risk. One acid attack, one lone knife man I think Harry said? I think he genuinely thinks that way.

(Obvs back in the real world none of this makes sense. Just saying what I think is going on.)

I disagree.

I don't think they have genuine security fears at all. As we've discussed so many times, the way they behave is not at all consistent with people who are worried about their safety. Announcing their movements in advance, posting photos from inside their home, leaving their children on the other side of the world, dropping hints about where they're living and so on.

This is all about ego and status, not security.

Artesia · 10/10/2026 19:39

There have been a few comments about Harry having small, close and deep set eyes. Always puts me in mind of his equally red-headed Tudor ancestor who was said to have similar eyes

pilates · 10/10/2026 19:43

I remember someone comparing him to a prawn on here 😂

AlwaysRightISwear · 10/10/2026 19:43

He's not descended form H8 but from his sister.

Kingsandqueenz · 10/10/2026 19:44

IcedPurple · 10/10/2026 19:35

I disagree.

I don't think they have genuine security fears at all. As we've discussed so many times, the way they behave is not at all consistent with people who are worried about their safety. Announcing their movements in advance, posting photos from inside their home, leaving their children on the other side of the world, dropping hints about where they're living and so on.

This is all about ego and status, not security.

It's ego & status possibly financially motivated.. It's been well documented they made over 100 million from selling stories perhaps that moneys running out? They have nothing more to sell as the royal family have cut them out of the fold.
Their security bill must be huge, why pay for it yourself if you can sponge off the taxpayers & get it for free..

fridaynightzzz · 10/10/2026 19:56

William looks very well groomed, Harry does not, the frizzy hair makes makes him look scruffy.

IcedPurple · 10/10/2026 20:24

Kingsandqueenz · 10/10/2026 19:44

It's ego & status possibly financially motivated.. It's been well documented they made over 100 million from selling stories perhaps that moneys running out? They have nothing more to sell as the royal family have cut them out of the fold.
Their security bill must be huge, why pay for it yourself if you can sponge off the taxpayers & get it for free..

It's been well documented they made over 100 million from selling stories

That hasn't been 'documented' at all!

Their security bill must be huge,

If their security bill is huge that's their choice. They're not actually that important so there is no objective need for high level security. That's why I say it's all about ego for them.

why pay for it yourself if you can sponge off the taxpayers & get it for free..

That's not going to happen though.

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