Ham pr disasters 46! …NATO nuisance and surprise appearances abound!

[jeffgoldblum]

the Discussion continues! , we are still interested and still not bored 😁

He has a horrible attitude to women. He spoke about the woman he lost his virginity to. The school cook (I think that's what she was), CG, Sophie C, his sister in law, the girls he threw into a pool, his stepmother. God knows who we haven't heard about

When Fergie joined the royal family, the media went into raptures over AMW and SF. The media insisted Charles and Diana were staid, boring, lacking in charisma, and endlessly deployed that hackneyed phrase "breath of fresh air."

Then that same media turned on Fergie ruthlessly roasting her as the Duchess of Pork and comparing her to the "enviably slim" Princess of Wales.

IMHO, HaM mistook the media's delight in having a new target to use to sell papers/generate clicks for actual support.

Meghan grew up around actors in California. She must have seen that when you are the next big thing you can get the best table in a restaurant, clothes etc gifted to you and an awful lot of meaningless hangers on sucking up. Presumably she thought their popularity in the UK leading up to the wedding would mean the same thing. The Royal family operate strictly on protocol and birth placement to dictate everything. The fact that they were popular was beneficial to the whole family but didn't mean they got to overtake William and Catherine. That must have come as a surprise to her. Second sons never get the same as the first born

She's too boring. She's not even comedically up herself like Hilarious Baldwin - M's more tediously up herself, if that makes sense? I've never seen someone so in love with themselves before in RL, for real. It's hard to describe but she's awful to listen to and it's like watching a robot learning its times tables wearing strange clothes and a wig from a props box.

That would be hard given that she has no sense of reality whatsoever!

What's this thread about? I've seen you over on another thread supporting MM and here you are doing her down? Am I getting something wrong?
Yours confused
Evie

He sets Meghan aside from all women (except his mum) and I don’t think for a moment he’d say anything like that about her. He has her on a pinnacle and has from the very start.

Not sure if this has already been covered ? Other reports are available
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2254484/harry-meghan-meet-charles-christmas/amp

This is new news!

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are reportedly due to meet the King before Christmas, according to celebrity reporter Rob Shuter. The veteran entertainment journalist has said that two royal sources have told him the Sussexes have managed to get into the King's busy diary, but that Prince William wants nothing to do with such a reunion. However, neither the Palace nor a Sussex spokesperson have confirmed whether a meeting will go ahead.

That's a lot of speculation ...

Yikes! Our taxes here are really complicated.

Meghan, as a US citizen, is liable for US income tax on her 'worldwide' income no matter where she's living. US citizen residing abroad tax law is wayyy complicated and the only time I 'dealt with it' was as a forces wife back in the '70s. Even though we weren't residing in the US we still paid taxes.

Harry is a different situation since he's not a citizen, and way more complicated. Whilst he was here he would have been liable for income tax on all US earnings if he was a 'US tax resident' (=here for 183 days in a year). Harry also declared himself a 'US resident' at some point (2024?) which may have affected any tax-exemption status. BUT, his visa category may affect whether or not he pays income tax on foreign-based earnings (ie a diplomatic or 'A-1' visa). I am waaaayyy oversimplifying here. Now that H is back in the UK if he is classed as a 'non-resident alien' he will still be liable for US taxes on US sourced income.

Bottom line, even though they're back in the UK, both H & M may have US tax liability. M definitely on ALL income because she is a US citizen. H possibly on US based income depending if he meets the classification of 'non-resident alien for tax purposes' but only on his US-based income.

The 'time thing' for leaving the US had to do with UK taxes, not US so I'm not touching that with a barge pole. AI says;

"Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s timing in returning to the UK after six years in the US successfully clears the UK’s five-year "temporary non-residence" window, shielding certain overseas capital gains from UK tax"

Many states (CA included) also require paying STATE income taxes, so HAM would have been liable for those whilst they were living here. I think the requirements follow IRS guidelines for CA tax purposes (if you have to pay IRS tax, you have to pay CA tax) but honestly I don't really know anything about those for sure. But I do know we didn't have to pay CA state tax when we were stationed abroad, but I don't know if that was a military exemption of simply because we had no 'official' Calif address at that time. HAM DO have a California residence so that may affect their liability, too.

It’s the shit stirring liar rob shuter again!!! , yes him who wrote the book about the wales all dead from an accident and lilibet becoming queen!!! 🙄

If someone who has been obviously critical of ham for 6 years, is moved to defend her , what should that tell you about that thread?

It's possible to criticise behaviour without being personally obnoxious about people.

This thread is about the (many) PR mistakes of the Sussexes, and their poor public behaviour.
That doesn't mean making up incorrect accusations about them, or using misogynistic language about Meghan.

This feels like scraping the barrel if one does the headline test: Son may meet with father

I do critique her acting and comportment, I admit, but then again she's supposed to be a professional, and a humanitarian, and all those other self-awarded labels, and all that jazz.

Archive link for Express Shuter story https://archive.is/F2qpq

Think I'll believe it when it happens ...

The poster on the other thread was talking about her in a demeaning way that I haven't seen you do, @AutumnCrowOfCleves.

@AcrossthePond55 Thank you for that answer - over and above the call of duty . But thank you for trying to answer what was probably an impossible question I asked. I appreciate it. 💐

I would think it entirely likely there may be a private pre-Christmas tea with Grandparents (counting Camilla in there) to exchange gifts before waving them off back to California. It must be an extra busy time for C&C so it’s nice of them to make room in the diary. No reason why anyone else would be invited.

Surely they have had a catch up since they have been back in UK? Actually, it would have been leaked by HAM 🙄

KC was at Balmoral until recently and I am fairly confident we would have had photos of the HaMlets scampering through the heather if they had been there . Visits to London by KC were for particular reasons so, no I don’t think they have met .
There are stories about KC not wishing to talk to Harry .

Its quite possible to be very critical of Harry and Meghan whilst at the same time be aware that no one, or the things they do are all bad.

Eg - I don’t believe Harry made the ugly statement about Meghan and I’ve said so, but I’m still no fan of theirs whatsoever.

In case I’m busy later! ( or something interesting actually happens!)
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5585857-ham-pr-disasters-thread-47-its-all-so-quietits-all-so-still?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

The armchair doctor is in. I have an A Level in psychology and I am not afraid to misuse it.

Theories on the paranoia:

1. Early loss of his mother, linked to paparazzi - thus deeply ingrained fear of the same for wife and hamlets.
2. Drug use(?) increase of paranoid thought patterns
3. Fake news. As in he's faking it to be in the news.

[I'm multitasking rn making an exactly equal quantity of sausages for my children lest it leads to a quarrel and a book 25 years from now, but this might effect the quality of my diagnostic genius.]

Thank you!