Do you believe Charles Spencer about Charles Windsor's reported remark?

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Do you believe Charles Spencer that Charles Windsor said to him during a phone call "we'll forget her soon enough."

At the end of the day William will be King and Charles Spencer will probably not get an invite if his carry on continues.

He and Harry can do an embittered commentary from a GB News truck outside the cathedral.

Yep to all this.

Have you seen how irritated he gets when a pen doesn't work?

He even contradicts himself in the interview with LC! (I watched one minute on the BBC clip.)

He says he's 'not there' to talk about H&M .

YET in the same interview he brings them up first, as a parallel to what he thinks happened to Diana.

Utterly deluded man.

Hardly the same!
Maybe you'd get irritated if a pen leaked all over you.
And you spent your life signing docs, trying to look happy when you felt ill, having cancer treatment, were in front of cameras etc etc.

I get irritated when a pen doesn’t work.

That argument is weak and boring.

Yes, you can feel that your senses are enhanced around a stressful event like a bereavement. However, that does not mean that your memory of the event is accurate.

To say again, we don't replay our memories. We reconstruct them. And every time we reconstruct them they change a little. One of the things that happens is that we change our memory of an individual's actions and words to conform with our view of that person. That includes our memory telling us that they said things they never said and did things they never did.

Add to that this was a phone call. We are more likely to mishear and/or misinterpret things said on a phone call than when speaking face to face. Alcohol also affects memory, and Spencer is an alcoholic, albeit he is recently sober. The chances of him accurately recalling a conversation from 30 years ago are minimal.

So we don't need an answer for your point 1. I'm sure Spencer believes Charles said what he claims but, given the way memory works and Spencer's clear animosity towards Charles, that doesn't mean Charles said it or anything close to it. He may have done but, given the many independent reports of Charles' behaviour at that time, it seems highly unlikely.

And the answer to your second and third points is easy. Charles doesn't want to get into a slanging match with Spencer. If he made the specific statements you want, the press would have spun that as Charles calling Spencer a liar, which would have given the row legs.

Is that really all you have against him?

Haha yes or if there’s no working pen in the drawer.

Especially when you have to sign a document, in front of the cameras, at one of the most important events of your life!

...or maybe people can recognise a liar

The day after my dad died my aunts individually made comments about how they could at least can count on the money he lent them to pay off their mortgage/extension being written off as there was nothing formal in place to make them pay it back. 😳 This comment from KC doesn’t surprise me in the least. People say the most awful things during these times and can become vultures for self preservation and their own selfish interests. However I do think it’s pointless dragging it back up now. The media circus around these people is ridiculous.

The brother is just cashing in on his sister, still. It’s all heightened for maximum publicity and money.

Neither has covered themselves in glory here but I can easily believe Charles W said it and I’m certain he was glad to be rid of Diana

I believe he might have said it or something similar, but it’s been possibly taken out of context. He and the other royals were demonised after her death, some of it deserved, and perhaps it was more of a ‘this will all be forgotten soon enough’ or ‘this will die down eventually’ sort of comment than actually meaning she would be forgotten. Wishful thinking about the situation they were in. Or maybe an old fashioned attitude to grieving, like the sooner we get over it the better sort of thinking.

Yes. However if he was just to come out and say that whilst he may be king he is only human and at the time there was a lot of pressure and control on how they were all expected to live our lives and that poor judgements were made and things were said in the heat of the moment that he regrets and It wasn’t my finest day then I think the general public would be a lot more understanding and it would blow the wind out of the books sales. But no let’s preserve the narrative at all costs seems to be the way it’ll fly just like always.

and all that alcohol pickling his memory

Well, I didn't know that, but fair enough!

Apparently he said ‘we’ll get her soon enough’, meaning from Paris to the UK. I don’t think he’d be so nasty as to say that about the mother of his children.

That’s nonsense

She was already back in the UK when Spencer and Charles had their phone call

Someone’s PR is hoping that line will confuse enough people .

I don't think the timeline fits that.
Does anyone know when the call is supposed to have been made.

The topic of the call doesn't fit that Twitter.

Earl Spencer said that him and KC were talking about them all walking behind Diana's coffin. ES did not think that Diana would want her two sons ri walk.
He said that KC then went ballistic, and ranted on about the Spencer's not doing their duty. Then he allegedly said 'don't worry we will forget her soon enough'

I think it was "rest assured".

To me it doesn't make sense to then say to her brother "she'll ne forgotten soon enough"

Why would Spencer "rest assured" about that?

The call was after Diana's body had been transported from Paris. The claim makes zero sense.

The pr are trying out that line to see if it fits.

I notice different things are tried out and discarded if they don't work.

The pr obviously think we are stupid plebs.

The real “rubbish” is the media promulgating the view that Harry was 2 when they met. I wonder why. Diane and Hewitt were staying together at his mother’s way before Harry was born. The people who lived and worked nearby knew.If you look at Devon newspapers from the times you read it for yourself.