Inappropriate photo op for William and catherine

[OneLilacHedgehog]

This was at an event this week. But the photo just made me gasp. It looks like the elderly woman is being used as a prop, rather than being treated in a dignified way.

Charles and Diana was just as much an arranged marriage as any in the past, however much the media tried to dress it up as 'at last Charles has found his princess and his happy ever after!' two people mated because the country needed an heir without any consideration given to their compatibility or suitability for the long haul.

I was never and am not a Diana fan, but it was obvious that the RF thought that having grown up around them she knew the ropes, would pop out the heir and spare and would then settle into good works and turning a blind eye to whatever her husband got up to (as he would to whatever she did) in the usual way of royal and aristo marriages. What they didn't bank on was her sheer undoubted charisma and ability to connect to the public. Had they been able to harness that who knows what she and Charles could have done as a partnership.

Diana's mother advised against the marriage, a fact you ignore when you refer to Diana's family.

Charles was 32. He was old enough to resist family pressure. His mother did. Her family did not want her to marry Philip, but she insisted. I think her family were right as Philip was a life long philanderer, but that's by the by.

It really wasn't that different in terms of Charles being able to say no. Charles is a weak, whiney man who seems to see himself as a perpetual victim. He was never going to stand up and say no.

Ok. Genuine question: Why are you trashing William?
This thread is horrible. You find a picture and you claim that W&K are humiliating an elderly woman. A photo you got from a very unpleasant website. It's not even true.
Why? You were trying to make William look bad.
Diana's beloved son! How would she feel that you're trashing him for the good work he does?
Do you think Diana would like this, or read your OP and be absolutely horrified?

So why create this horrible thread accusing William of something he didn't do?
How does that help Diana?
She loved William. She'd be disgusted, it's cruel and it's dishonest.

Ok. Genuine question: Why are you trashing William?

William, Charles, Philip - who's next?

Her family did not want her to marry Philip, but she insisted. I think her family were right as Philip was a life long philanderer, but that's by the by.

I'm going to take at face value your confident assertion that Philip was a life long philanderer, and point out that QEII was born and raised in the tradition that fidelity from a marital partner was not to be expected. It was a long aristo and royal tradition that once you'd done your duty in the way of heirs both partners could do as they liked as long as they didn't cause a scandal and kept it all in the social circles that understood those rules and that marital fidelity, even if you decided to be faithful yourself, was a distinctly middle class notion. She and QEQM were very much of a generation that said 'boys will be boys, close your eyes and ignore it.'

But the OP didn't admit they were incorrect. Call me old fashioned but I find it hard to take statements about correcting a narrative seriously from someone who can't correct their own words.

Gosh.

Diana was very charismatic. But there are a few other differences between her and Sophie which might account for their relative media coverage - one died, tragically, in her 30s, leaving two young sons. One was destined to be queen but had a messy and very public divorce. One was a very beautiful but complicated person, about whom there are many newsworthy stories, like pushing her stepmother down the stairs. One had a spectacular wedding that was viewed by ~750M people and a state funeral watched by ~2.5B people. One courted the press, had tabloid editors on speed dial for when she wanted photos of her in a bikini in the papers. One did a tv interview about the state of her marriage, which was quite the scandal in those days. One lived and died in a very different time in terms of media landscape. And one is the victim of endless speculation, fuelled by those around her trying to profit from her death.

Her grandmother, her father and her sisters all pushed her into it,

A fact you are ignoring in your usual way of discarding evidence which doesn’t fit your narrative.

If you think of the Spencer family as nice, caring folk, I’m afraid you’re in for a shock!

I've "ignoring" nothing.
You continue to ignore my question -
Why are you trashing William.?
Look at your original post. It's horrible.

The OP is remarkably confident in their dodgy assertions, correcting other pps from a very lofty height!😂

No I don't think they do treat her like a saint. They admire her.
I think you don't understand her appeal at all.
The point was describing it as empathy with an aids victim simply minimised what she did. Anyone can show empathy. It's actions to change things that matters.

Meanwhile, no apology for the awful prenise of this thread, nor the attack (completely unwarranted) on Diana's beloved son.
Tumbleweed.

As William and Kate were doing with that elderly woman in Bute. Look at your response to that! Don't you think that's hypocritical?

I’m amazed every day at the way people who worship Diana seem to hate and bully William.

Why? That’s not a rhetorical question - I’d like OP to answer it for me, because it makes no sense.

I’m no Diana worshipper but even I hate to think of how devastated she’d be to hear her beloved elder son spoken about with such nastiness.

Why are you creating a narrative I have never said? I said nothing about the rest of Diana's family.

I was simply correcting a comment that said Diana's family pushed her into the marriage, when actually her own mother advised her against the marriage.
I am sorry facts are inconvenient to you.

This is what I don't get. They worship Diana, hate William??
If Diana was to see her sons now, who would she be most proud of?
No question.

OP - please tell us why you dislike William.

Facts are inconvenient to you. Look at your premise for this thread.

I am not trashing William. I saw the photo and thought it looked disgusting, that's it.

I do know any criticism however mild of William and Catherine gets characterised as trashing. I once said I thought Catherine's clothes were boring and had multiple people accuse me of trashing Catherine who never puts a foot wrong and is recovering from cancer.

Confusing - you don’t think Diana’s grandmother, father and sisters count as family? These people pushed her into marriage but you’re correcting the idea that her family did?

You started a whole thread, accusing William and his wife of something which was completely wrong.
Would Diana approve?

Your answer reveals a lot about your resentment towards them.

Why on earth would you come out with “C’s clothes are boring “? Have a saucer of milk, OP.

As if that’s an innocent little observation….we see you!

We won't get an answer. It's so peculiar, because it's William ( with Kate).who is carrying on Diana's work!

Also, nobody told her Kate didn't put a foot wrong!.