Royal row between King Charles and Earl Spencer

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Buckingham Palace said they don't usually comment but they can't stay silent. Apparently Prince Charles said at the time of Diana's death rest assured we'll forget her soon enough. Which is pretty horrendous. Charles has more or less said grief had clouded Earl Spencer's judgement and memory.

I don't know why he has waited nearly 30 years to come out with this.

I've never bought in to the idea that weren't ever ok. I think they were all right for a while. I don't base this on The Crown programme. I base it on living through the time and following the news and the pictures then.

I doubt he had much choice.I'm sure there would have been great pressure to behave. He was the son of an earl after all. I think he made it pretty clear how he felt when he gave that speech in the pulpit so I dont know why people on here are making out like he was behaving as if everything was hunky dory back then. Itcllearly wasnt. And he said as much.

I completely agree, just as happened with Omid Scobie's book about Harry and Meghan.
Oops, I forgot to quote.

Just showing how easy it is to insert giddily elated into an observation and make it sound like it is true.

Apologies. I forgot to add ‘giddy - like he’d won the lottery’.

Perhaps that can be about H when he ‘won’ the legend of aviation trophy.

It’s always taken out of context!

It’s clear they were both shy people who found that interview excruciating - I know I would!

It was obviously an awkward attempt at humour.

Perhaps that is where the convoy detoured to the other day.

No wonder they were late.

"She and Charles were on very good terms by 1997 and were successfully coparenting. Charles would certainly have needed the Queen's consent to marry Camilla, but Diana's death didn't really change the likelihood of that. If anything, it probably set it back a few years because it would have been seen as insensitive to marry too soon afterwards."

Yes, Charles and Diana were getting on and had found a way to coparent at the time of her death. They were putting their children first.

Good point about Diana's death probably setting Charles and Camilla's wedding back. Diana herself was in a relationship at the time of her death. It's not as though she hadn't moved on. There's no reason why Diana was an impediment to Charles and Camilla marrying.

But even if they hated each other and were at each other's throats, the last thing that Charles would have wanted was for his sons to lose their mother.

As I said in another post, I think there were limits . He was the son of an earl or even an earl himself then. I remember being shocked by what he said in the pulpit, so to go even further back then would have been unthinkable. Dont forget he only wrote about boarding achool abuse recently too. It wqa different back then..There were things you didnt say.

She died in 1997. It's hardly the ancient past.

Yes a rich man talking about being sexually abused as a child was unthinkable back then.

But it does mean that few people under 45 will really remember her in her heyday.

To go even further back then would not have been unthinkable. If what he is saying now was true he'd have happily spouted it back then.

He's cashing in in Diana. He grabbiness is appalling.

No I disagree. You don't understand the times.

Isn’t it that she wanted to live on a property on the Althorp estate and he refused, instead offering her another property which was not on the Althorp grounds but almost an hour away. Diana refused that option and was terribly upset he didn’t want her living on the Althorp Estate itself.

No idea what you are saying!

I am talking about Charles Spencer, his book, and the impact of that together with Charles's statement

I do understand the times. He was happy to be an unpleasant arse 30yrs ago he'd have certainly overshared this twaddle. If it had happened.

Why don't his sisters tell him to stfu, that he's making a fool of himself and no doubt causing immense distress to his 'blood relative' William.

I dread to think what him and Harry will come up with next. All sour grapes and guilt.

No. She wanted a house. Security said it could not be made secure as it was very close to a public road.
He offered her alternative houses on the estate. She said no.

how was earl Spencer an unpleasant arse 29 years ago over dianas death? I need details because I don't know what you are talking about.

So am I.

I don’t know for sure that CS was an unpleasant arse 29 years ago.

He has proven it beyond all doubt now though so happy days.

He offered her somewhere to stay if she paid him a substantial amount of rent. Not a very generous way for an enormously wealthy landowner to treat his distressed sister, I think it's fair to say.

Really. You are on about Meghan's clothes and some award or other Harry received, that I have no idea about
Totally irrelevant

Really.

Read.

I’ve followed the story of Charles Spencer for years and I’m sure he had some horrible experiences in childhood - of course he’s a very damaged person.

But clearly he’s also a very nasty man - you only have to look at his relationships with the many, many women in his life.

I can’t fathom this, though - I mean, there may be no love lost between him and KC, but what a thing to do to his nephews.

And - even if he doesn’t like KC - the man has cancer and is our HoS. What’s he thinking? That’s not a rhetorical question - I just can’t think what’s in it for him but money - but does that compensate for the terrible pain he will cause to an already troubled family?

Baffled.

See upthread for his treatment of wife No. 1.

Shocking, and that was just the start of a poor record in romantic relationships.