PR disasters thread 32

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

Yet another new thread for more Sussex shenanigans!

I always thought H looked shocked when Oprah asked him about the skin colour comment. He was clear it was one conversation and he would never tell what was said.

M essentially conflated several conversations to imply racism was the reason Archie was not a prince.

I can’t imagine that the Wales children have been kept in the dark about their cousins or H.

I suspect that their mum and dad have explained things and that they are made to feel secure and confident. They also have a set of grandparents who know normal life and I think that will assist in them being well adjusted. Their mum and dad seem down to earth, drama free and steadfast.

Unfortunately the behaviour of the Sussex parents is not the same. I wonder how much of the drama and bitterness is absorbed.

That's exactly right, she was very dishonest to do so. Even worse - Archie is actually a prince, so how does she square that little curiosity?

I think she will never be able to rub that hard enough to make it square.

That was an astounding lie.

The only thing that astounds me more is that people still keep choosing to believe the racism narrative that she flung out to the universe.

They do - it's baffling really. Especially as they've been found to lie about so many things..

@Cars4Gov

Many Ex Army officers are able to command fees for speaking about leading teams

It's the same across all three services but as you rightly say you generally need to have commanded at VVSO level or if not as VSO have some experience in a niche role - ex-Red Arrows or similar.

H offers none of that.

It’s worse than that, because whilst Archie was not a prince until his grandfather was King he was and is the Earl of Dumbarton from birth. So he always had a title.

Technically Charlotte and Louis should not have been Princess and Prince until Charles became King but HMTLQ made a change to the letters patent at the same time as she changed the LoS so if W&K first born was a girl she would be the heir. I believe this was the real issue for H & M as they wanted the same for A & L rather than waiting for Charles to be King.

You're right. It's being desperate for the same status as the Wales children.

I really wonder how H&M will get on being 'normal' members of the GBP. Any flouncing, complaints, whinging will be treated, I am sure, quite coolly and perhaps even grey rocked by parents and staff. British schooling will be great for A&L and perhaps a great leveller for H&M when they realise they just aren't that special.

Yes. I think the plan from HAM's side was to assume the school would eventually be revealed, as it will be in time - and in fact that's desirable for them because it enables them showing off where the kids are being educated, but also complaining yet again that yet again they've been done over by the mean racist British press and public. They've priced this in. It's impractical to imagine the name of the school could be concealed indefinitely, without cooperation and goodwill from those in the know. For example, as was said on an earlier thread, the school attended by the Starmer children was known to a number of people but because that request for privacy was very reasonable and understandable, it wasn't made public. HAM simply don't have that level of cooperation and goodwill. But it will allow them to, conveniently, claim victim status once again once it's openly named, as I think it will be in time.

I don't see what the issue is with regard to the school being named - or not.
We all knew where the Wales kids went initially and again, when they shifted to Lambrook. "Oh, nice," we all said, and went about our days as usual. No drama.

And yet here we have the Sussexes and look at all the column inches being filled with speculation and angst. It's almost as if it were planned to be that way...

This, plus the Wales children have other cousins who they do know and see regularly. They have normality modelled for them. Their Sussex cousins are the outliers. Whereas Archie and Lili have no awareness of cousins and what having a wider family might be like, having been isolated from all of those people. Poor kids.

I’m waiting for them to insist they must be bowed/curtseyed to and for the children to be addressed with their titles at all times.
Actually, I don’t think anything will surprise me where these two are involved!

Agreed, however due to his Royal upbringing, Eton education, RMAS experience you would think he could have elevated his speeches to something other than the fluff he comes out with.

I keep thinking back to that photo of PK With the kids and her ILS after she finished the 3 peaks climb. Such a happy normal family picture, the HAMs must have seen that. Their family life seems sort of lonely/empty.

Good point. If I were choosing between whether our overstretched national economy had to support them or whether some billionaire with plenty of spare cash decided he wanted to do it, then Mr Big Bucks is welcome to take them on, from my point of view. It's still hypocritical of HAM, but at least we ordinary taxpayers aren't picking up the tab.

His head is full of fluff, that's the trouble.

i was reading a bit about Ian Wace their new alledged benefactor, he seems to have the type of life Meghan thought she was getting after marrying Harry and he seems to enjoy the same things she likes and he’s newly single

And any spare fluff is glued to the top of his head to make photoshoots more foxy.

Just for clarity, because I think it's important, especially as people from different countries use these boards.

Palace Confidential is the RF YouTube/podcast of the Daily Mail. They have not put out any information regarding which school it might be. I know that because I watch it every week.
What they have said clearly is that they know the school, as do other journalists, but that no-one would report that because the Editors' Code of Conduct does not permit them to do so.

Tom Sykes works for the Daily Beast and runs his own YouTube Channel/podcast, The Royalist. That is regulated differently and he has put out enough information (copied to these threads) that many people have worked out the school.

Other YT/internet/international news sites may have done the same. They are regulated differently to UK press organisations (realistically, internet news is not regulated at all).
UK press organisations will not be identifying the school.

Editors' Code of Practice - you're looking for Clause 6.

Sources believe that the companies that want him to work for them will pay for his transatlantic travel by private jet

I imagine he's actually unemployable. Wonder which company is head hunting him and for what role!

I doubt she’d be considered.

No-one really wants that level of drama when you have loads of money.

You don’t want someone spunking it up against the wall either.

Plus I reckon he might want to go for a racy sporty number. Sadly she is likely more banger than classic.

😂

Ian and his partner Arpad have managed to rack up relationships with Una Thurman, Elle McPherson, Saffron Aldridge and Jemma Kidd , so Meghan would feel she’d fit right in

The Editors Code of Practice only applies to newspapers and magazines (whether online or in print) who have signed up voluntarily to be regulated by IPSO. Several newspapers have not, including some of the nationals.

it doesn’t apply to YouTube, social media, foreign publications, GB News or Mumsnet or anywhere else this story is being discussed. Or TV. It’s a tiny tiny part of the regulatory landscape.