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PR disasters thread 31

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 25/08/2026 22:13

Have the eagles landed yet? Another thread to discuss yet more Sussex shenanigans!

PR disasters thread 31
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NormalAuntFanny · Today 16:57

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 15:45

I heard it was Peter Andre? It makes more sense if it’s Peter as they both love their kids.

Come now, it's well known that no-one loves their kids like Peter Andre! Not a soul.

Perhaps they could do a love-your-kids-most-off duet.

Personally I'd love to see MM in a quality theatre production because that would restore some of the cringe I like to see in her activities.

Choux · Today 16:58

Can you imagine her in rehearsal? Being critiqued by the director and having to do sections over and over to perfect it how the director wants it rather than how she thinks it should be? And possibly all of that happening in front of the rest of the cast? I think she is too brittle to do that.

Edited to add: perhaps MM was willing to do that in Suits. But The Duchess of Sussex won’t let that happen to herself.

LaMarschallin · Today 17:00

It gets worse.
I keep picturing her in a light musical.
Imagine her in "A Doll's House".

NormalAuntFanny · Today 17:06

LaMarschallin · Today 17:00

It gets worse.
I keep picturing her in a light musical.
Imagine her in "A Doll's House".

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Maybe Lady Macbeth? Plays to her strengths.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · Today 17:07

LaMarschallin · Today 17:00

It gets worse.
I keep picturing her in a light musical.
Imagine her in "A Doll's House".

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Jeez.

DandyAF · Today 17:08

NormalAuntFanny · Today 17:06

Maybe Lady Macbeth? Plays to her strengths.

I mean Ophelia in Hamlet, surely

My2cents1975 · Today 17:08

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 15:51

They really need to button it, they could get away with it whilst in America but they need to STFU now they are here and are using British titles gifted to them from the Head of State.

Meta paid £149 million to break their Regent Park office lease in 2023...that was not a vote of confidence in the growth of the UK tech sector. We have seen several PMs trying to attract more foreign direct investment from the tech sector which is a future area of growth and I doubt the current PM will appreciate HaM's unnecessary input.

In fact, there is no reason beyond hubris for HaM to comment on this situation.

LaMarschallin · Today 17:09

DandyAF · Today 17:08

I mean Ophelia in Hamlet, surely

Wishful thinking.

BasiliskStare · Today 17:09

I just googled 2:22 A ghost story which is a play people (not here ) mooted as a role for Meghan. I thought , well if Stacey Dooley can get decent reviews , surely MM's got a chance. And then, dear reader, I realised I was mixing up Stacey Dooley with Stacey Solomon.

As you were.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · Today 17:11

DandyAF · Today 17:08

I mean Ophelia in Hamlet, surely

She's way too old to pull that off.

binkie163 · Today 17:12

Dontevenlookatme · Today 14:21

I don’t think people would pay to see MM
act out of curiosity or “hate watching”. It’s one thing to pay a month’s subscription to Netflix and binge watch, quite another to shell out for a trip to a West End theatre.

But I don’t think it would ever come to that. As I’ve said before, Meghan isn’t an actor, she’s a fame seeker. She responds badly to any kind of criticism however constructive. I think she would find taking theatre direction very difficult.

ETA this thread is galloping away from me as usual so apologies for lagging!

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She got very poor viewing on Netflix WLM and people already have Netflix. If people can't be arsed to watch that, no way are they going to drag themselves into London theatre land.
Also have to consider if other actors want to work with her, no one wants a part they have rehearsed for closing after a week.
I watched the Rik Mayal documentary recently and he was absolutely furious that Stephen Fry walked out of their show and ticket sales dried up, that was 2 well loved actors at career high points.
Can you imagine the clap back from m to a poor review.

DandyAF · Today 17:12

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · Today 17:11

She's way too old to pull that off.

Obviously Grin
But I'm not sure she'd up for Queen Gertrude

BasiliskStare · Today 17:28

I do agree @My2cents1975 they ought to be a bit careful when they stray into politics, even peripherally. I include in this H's pronouncements in the Ukraine about Putin and Trump.
If it were me and I were thinking about a review of titles, I might think clear blue water between WRF and private citizens was a good idea. But it's not me and frankly it's too soon to tell.

SqueakyDinosaur · Today 17:29

DandyAF · Today 17:12

Obviously Grin
But I'm not sure she'd up for Queen Gertrude

Ooh, I don't know - after all, she is a QUEEN twice over. AND she married both brothers!

LaMarschallin · Today 17:31

Hedda Gabler.
As long as Meghan didn't miss

DandyAF · Today 17:31

SqueakyDinosaur · Today 17:29

Ooh, I don't know - after all, she is a QUEEN twice over. AND she married both brothers!

I was thinking of that. The marrying both brothers would be very funny.

Ok I want this to happen now.

She can copy Hamilton's HAM for HAM promotions on social media and do fun videos outside the theatre with her prop crown.

Starryfifty · Today 17:33

Apparently Meg wanted Kamala Harris senate seat. She harassed G newson for consideration. This cannot be true. HAM in politics 😅

DandyAF · Today 17:38

Starryfifty · Today 17:33

Apparently Meg wanted Kamala Harris senate seat. She harassed G newson for consideration. This cannot be true. HAM in politics 😅

Weren't there rumours years ago that Meghan wanted to get into politics in the US?

I think that Harry and Meghan will be speaking up a lot now they're back in the UK: The Royal Voice of Treason from The Cotswolds

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DaisyDooley · Today 17:52

Oh please Ladies.
If our Meghan was to tread the boards in a Shakespeare production it would have to be as Goneril In King Lear.
Surely that would be the part for her . Little acting required methinks,
Although it was Regan who said the oft quoted line ‘Out, Vile Jelly! Where is thy lustre now’.
Either part would be suitable - maybe she could alternate parts to show her superb skills.
Lawrence Olivier and Vivien Leigh played Caesar and Cleopatra in George Bernard Shaws ‘Caesar & Cleopatra’ and Shakespeare’s ‘Anthony and Cleopatra’ alternating them in 1951. (They did it for nearly 5 months, then took it to broadway!! )
Perhaps her acting isn’t quite at that level though.
((That’s one of the places I would go in my tardis. Sorry -don’t mean to derail!))

AprilMizzel · Today 17:54

Cocolapew · Today 16:20

Meghan can't act though. Me and DH used to watch Suits years ago, way before she and Harry got together.
I remember saying to DH she's very pretty but is a rubbish actor (as was one of the male leads).
Nobody is going to pay to come to see a London show just because of her, they might come to see the show that's she's in though.
She isn't a draw, tickets are too expensive to come just for a nosey.

I watched suits on Dave way before she was dating Harry - I thought she was good - it wasn't a demanding part but she was good in it.

The rest is entertainment podcast they seem to think she had options to re-start and that it was a move with potential - especially a move from US entertainment seen where they are seen as failures - re-group relaunch a career she had some success in.

She may well currently have options in TV or possibly small theater parts where her name could be a draw - people in the industry think there possiblities there. Whether she makes anything of them well think that's on her and a wait and see from everyone else.

Suits in UK was a minor show on a low numbers digital channel it was sold to quite a few countires and went on for more seasons that I watched and she was part of a cast not the main character. It's not the major international high profile success her supporters try and claim and it's not a bad career or the nothing many detractors on here now try and claim.

It's clear I think she wanted her marriage to move on from her acting career but she may now be pivoting as things haven't worked out and that may come with a difference in attitude and work ethic or it may not - depends what driving it all ie how desperate she is and how much distraction with RF she engages in - which I think only time will tell.

DandyAF · Today 18:07

@Tiddlywinks63 that looks interesting but I unfortunately can't read the full article as I don't have a paid subscription

Tiddlywinks63 · Today 18:20

DandyAF · Today 18:07

@Tiddlywinks63 that looks interesting but I unfortunately can't read the full article as I don't have a paid subscription

Ah, sorry!
Cut and paste job:
Harry and Meghan Gaslight Special: They Won’t Admit They’re Even in England
Everyone in the Cotswolds is convinced they’ve pinpointed the Sussexes’ lavish new home. They won’t even say they are in the UK

TOM SYKES
AUG 27, 2026
∙ PAID

Six years later, it was a remarkable full circle moment to see a gigantic, vulgar private jet landing on the tarmac at Birmingham airport carrying Harry, Meghan, Archie, Lili and their dogs Pula and Mia back to Britain to live. (Well, Meghan is going to kind oflive here. Harry and the kids are definitely moving back. More on that below.) I’m told this carbon-spewing monster wasn’t booked via Travlayst, the environmentally sustainable travel company that Harry fronts.

Photo by Jonathan Brady-Pool/Getty Images
Despite this performative statement of triumphal return (“It all went great!”) Harry and Meghan are refusing to confirm that they are in the United Kingdom.
At $8 a month, you can afford us, Harry!

The thinking seems to be that it would undermine their own argument about privacy if they briefed about their movements, or maybe they just believe they will have a stronger case to sue newspapers that publish details of where they live or where their kids are going to school if they have never said a word about it (I’m not sure Justice Nicklin would be convinced.)
The bigger point is that every phone in the Cotswolds is going mad, the WhatsApp groups are afire, and everybody from Stow-on-the-Wold to Fleet Street thinks they know where the family are going to be living, and where the kids are going to school (I certainly do).

The level of Kafkaesque absurdity we have now reached is that their relationship with the British media is so toxic, so poisonous, so damaged, that the couple have arrived and are publicly refusing, for legal purposes, to say they have arrived!
I have to say, looking at that jet sitting on the tarmac, it felt like a massive middle finger to the royal family and its carefully nurtured traditions of frugality; the easyJet flight to Aberdeen, the cereal in Tupperware boxes, the potted plants for sale at Sandringham to raise a few coppers. We all know the reality (the Queen bought and sold racehorses with less introspection than you or I might order takeaway), but there was at least a pretense of modesty. The Sussexes have rejected all that fusty old rubbish along with everything else about the royal model; to them it’s an old bad smell in a church, to be spritzed out in time for your wedding. That jet at Birmingham said: screw the lot of you. We have succeeded. We have won. We are free to make our own money, we’ve made a bucketload of it, we are the independent buccaneers on the great ocean wave of free commerce, it’s none of your business who paid for the jet, and, by the way, we’re not even here!
I’ve been told by very reliable sources that they have indeed bought a house near the chocolate box town of Stow-on-the-Wold for a figure between £12 million and £15 million, and the kids will be going to a nearby fashionable school that has something of a “tree-climbing,” let kids-be-kids vibe. I’m not going to identify the house or the school beyond saying that it is not Beaudesert Park, but somebody will, because it is so widely known in all of these Cotswold circles that the whole of Fleet Street is spending today trying to establish whether they’re just sale agreed or if contracts have been exchanged. When massively rich people buy great fat pads in the middle of the country, everybody in the neighborhood talks about it, because a huge number of normal people make their living servicing these estates. That is not a privacy violation. That is the English countryside.
The locals I’ve been on the phone with about the new arrivals are by turns amused, entertained, appalled and titillated.
One source said: “A lot of them simply can’t wait to see if Meghan really is as ghastly as everyone makes out.”
I was surprised to be told the price tags on the houses they have been looking at are between £10 and £15 million, which is quite a lot more than I would have thought they had available to spaff out on a new gaff in England, especially with Montecito mothballed rather than sold: Santa Barbara County records show their company, Rockbridge LLC, bought the estate for $14.65 million with a $9.5 million loan at 2.49 percent, which is still $450,000 a year on the mortgage, plus $150,000 in property tax, plus staff (they’re leaving the chickens, folks, so somebody has to be there), plus the place in Portugal, plus Harry’s massive legal costs from the failed court battle with the Daily Mail coming down the pipe.
It’s a substantial investment, isn’t it? Alison Boshoff had a quote from a friend of Harry’s saying he thinks he’ll be here 12 to 15 years, that he wants to watch the kids “play rugby,” and that Meghan will “come and go,” all of which meshes exactly with what I was told in March: the only way Meghan would be here full-time was if she had a thriving business here. I have yet to see a single item of As Ever for sale outside the United States.
They say they are completely private individuals—er, completely private individuals who are lobbying the British taxpayer to cover a £5 million-a-year security bill?
The two positions are unsustainable together, and I think we can all see that, in the teeth of furious public anger, they are going to get the state-sponsored security: the establishment is cranking into action, we’ve had David Blunkett weighing in and Emily Thornberry declaring Harry a hero, and of the two boxes that need ticking for protection (are you a working royal, and do you live in the United Kingdom), moving back ticks one. I suspect that within a couple of weeks it will emerge that the family is protected.
There’s always an argument from celebrities desperate to keep everything secret: what we get up to is not in the public interest, it’s just interesting to the public.
I’m sorry, but the idea that nobody is allowed to know what country the fifth in line to the throne, an HRH and a prince and a counsellor of state, is living in, or on what basis, or for how long, or under what terms, is self-evidently absurd. If that’s the way you want it, Harry, renounce your titles.
The British media are not going to publish their address, they haven’t done that kind of stuff for years.
Even without the security, it is complete fantasy to argue the position is remotely analogous to any other private individual in the land. If they’d spent the last five years living a low-key existence in Montana, nobody would care. Instead they made a six-part Netflix documentary about themselves slagging off our most beloved institution, they run a big glitzy Instagram account which flogs the stories of the sixth and seventh in line to the throne, Archie and Lilibet.
I suspect their time in the UK is going to be very fraught if they insist on being in a state of permanent war with the media and threatening to sue everyone at the drop of a hat, because the purpose of developing a functional relationship with the British media is that it is through them you get a chance to mediate a relationship with their audience, the British people.
Call me old-fashioned, but I can’t help thinking: surely it would be better if the public didn’t absolutely hate you from the outset for gaslighting them about the fact you are even here!!!!?

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DandyAF · Today 18:21

@Tiddlywinks63 cheers! Wine