Breaking Ham moving back to UK

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HAM and children moving back to UK according to DM

all that shit about being married 3 days before the wedding. WTF?
So many things they have come out with that could get other people into deep shit

Yes, the Archbishop had to issue a public denial.
But it was useful as an indicator of their reliability; I knew it couldn't be true, so I wasn't inclined to believe anything else they said in that interview.

Yes no consideration that here was a very religious man being made out to be a liar.

Sky News reporting just now Meghan in talks with Guy Ritchie to star in Season 3 of The Gentleman

This is literally the problem. Had Meghan been authentic and just continued her acting career rather than adopting an ambassador role, it would have been fine.

I get that she wanted to try being a supportive royal wife and that didn’t sit well.

But some sort of public influencer trading on her marriage was lame and just dragged them both down. They were in LA - home of the actor

Now they are back. Not apparently because Harry needs his family or that they like the Uk but because it’s where a job is? Nice .

Nothing to do with the 18million quid they may be on the hook for that Harry spunked up the wall in the court case.

That's more than the house in California was worth and more than they were mortgaged for if figures on this thread are to be believed.

Those numbers suggest they are no longer able to sustain the mega rich lifestyle in the US and have to come back to the UK to look for a rich benefactor.

The job is definitely an attempt to save face and a smoke screen.

I’m still adamant that Harry’s visa is an issue. He would be the ultimate person for Trump to make an example of, especially because Harry doesn’t have the full weight of the Royal family & UK govt behind him as protection for some lax legalities.

@DandyAF I think you could well be right.

Actually I think its a whole host of reasons.
The visa, they don't have money to fight it, money they were probably banking on in the other court cases which have actually lost them money.
I also think she might be ready to walk away from him....hes not been able to provide the glitzy lifestyle she thought she was getting.

This is exactly what I was going to post. We’ve never seen a picture of her graduating. And for someone who loves to self-publicise, never mind her proud dad showing/selling a pic, I find it highly suspicious.

I haven't been following the court case, I gather today's results won't make the Sussexes happy? How much will they have to pay the legal team on top of daily mail?

🙄do NOT want them here!
I thought she hated the UK????
The money has obviously run out!

All the photos she takes of her children are them tripping barefoot through the wonderful Californian garden in the dappled sunshine. I honestly don’t know how anyone could come back from luxury and sunshine in California to a British winter.

She's an actress by profession, though, so you'd expect she'd have some interest in the theatre.

Being in talks for a part that hasn't been created yet in a season of a show that hasn't even been renewed for a new season yet sounds a bit spurious as a reason for them to rush back to the UK just before the new school year. If she did get the role, she wouldn't even need to live in the UK permanently to film it. A season 3 of The Gentlemen hasn't even been agreed with Netflix yet. After that, it will still need to be written and developed, casted, cast availability coordinated, very busy Guy Ritchie availability secured, crews and locations booked, and then filming might start in a year. It only has 8 episodes a season, so how much would Meghan really need to be in the UK for filming if she were to be in it?

It all seems a bit of a flaky reason to make a sudden decision to return to a country they have rejected and which they claim they are not safe in, to turn their kids' lives upside down just because Meghan might need to be available for filming in the Cotswolds for a couple of weeks next June.

Or saying that 2 “senior members of the RF” were racists. At that stage, before their identities were “accidentally “ revealed in the Scobie book, this threw serious shade on the whole family who had to just get on with their roles - meeting foreign dignitaries etc - under that shade. I think it actually damaged the UK - whatever the denials and the later sheepish, muddle-headed retraction by H, mud like that sticks.

They’ve done shocking damage to the RF, the country and to 2 individuals in particular out of ignorance and spite. I’m really very sorry they have the brass neck to come back here.

Exactly, it’s all a desperate smokescreen to deflect from the one simple fact that we all know - they are broke!
This move has not been planned, as with everything with this pair it’s an impulsive and panicked reaction to the final realisation that they have screwed everything up.

And I wish the press would stop going along with the acting part as well and properly challenge the pair of them.

So would I, but apparently she hadn’t. I’ve read various thoughts about this and it’s been suggested that she herself isn’t THAT kind of actor - classically and rigorously trained for the theatre, and therefore felt insecure in that world. TV acting is very different.

Alternatively, as I suspect, she just has no genuine interest in cultural spheres such as theatre. Diana loved ballet and patronised that to great effect. It could have been great PR for Meghan, but perhaps it would have involved her paying awed respect to OTHER artists rather than herself and that wasn’t her bag.

Just some suggestions because her snubbing of that patronage has always baffled me - what an honour it was!

This autumn is set to be exceptionally wet and windy thanks to El Niño (stock up on welly boots, candles and sand bags folks). It will be quite the change.

‘Strongest El Nino in a century’ to bring storms this autumn
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/aef1f8ea9dae9190

Many many things they have lied about.

But the wedding one is evidenced beyond all reasonable doubt. It also puts two fingers up to half the commonwealth. Who took time to watch their wedding.

We don't really know what was said about the babies colour. I do suspect it was general chit chat over what colour it was likely to be. I know a big mixed race family, all with white partners, every birth is met with weight, sex and colour! The grandchildren range from very pale white, could deny their mixed heritage, to latte colour very obvious mixed race.

Agreed.

MM just used her looks and ability to learn lines as her path to her real goal, fame.

She is not interested in acting.

When has she ever talked with passion about the art of acting? Whether that be in film or on the stage?

She couldn’t wait to leave it behind her in order to spend her life, or so she thought, posing in very expensive clothes and receiving international attention and worship.

If only she had an overriding passion such as acting it would show her depth and identity.

Instead her utterly vacuous shapeshifting persona is her defining characteristic.

She is a very empty person and I think at heart a very tiny part of her must know that.

She will never be happy because she tries to fill her empty soul with superficial adoration because she cannot form and maintain real relationships.

Her marriages have both been purely transactional and I strongly suspect we will see a split with her children once they reach the age of reason and independence and start to object to being vehicles for her image and self promotion.

Harry is and always was a useful idiot and this marriage will last until it no longer benefits her.

Exactly.

I can’t remember where I read this but it sounds plausible. The origin of that story was a friendly, jolly conversation between Charles, Catherine, Camilla and Harry - all in a happy context. Idiotic H then reported it to Meghan, who must have thought “Gotcha!” And rubbed her hands together, while pretending to be traumatised.

She wanted to find racism and she claimed she found it.

Look I think Meghan has some awful traits and is manipulative and egotistical but sorry, IMO there's some snobbiness here generally, not just specific to Meghan, as well as some untruths/half-truths.

it’s been suggested that she herself isn’t THAT kind of actor - classically and rigorously trained for the theatre, and therefore felt insecure in that world. TV acting is very different.

It doesn't need to be 'suggested' she's not THAT kind of actor - it's a black and white situation surely, either one has a classical and rigorous theatre raining or one doesn't?!

She did study theatre at university (as has been mentioned on this thread ) but no, she won't have had the same classical training as someone who went to RADA.

Yes TV acting is very different, but that hasn't stopped TV actors with not one jot of classical training from starring in Broadway plays. There isn't the snobbiness there about acting that there used to be here.

She didn't "snub" the NT patronage, she stepped down because they'd left the UK. She visited the NT many times and was in contact with them; I know this from a friend who worked there.

In the US she went to see Broadway shows several times. But no, she's probably not massively into the theatre and that's not a character flaw. Some people aren't as traditionally cultured as others, it doesn't make them lesser than.

Meghan's 'things' have always been food and wine and travel.

The American acting scene is very much about looks rather than acting as a skill set. It’s why British actors have wonky normal faces and US ones are traditionally pretty or handsome. Ours tend to come from RADA or LAMDA etc and will do lots of stage performances before getting screen jobs.
Completely agree Meghan doesn’t view acting as anything other than a way to get money, fame and attention.

Honestly that just wouldn't surprise me. Absolutely no different to people speculating on a babies hair or eye colour.
I wanted my babies to have DH blue eyes, neither have DH blue eyes.

@DandyAF
i take some of your points but…I do find it just incomprehensible that anyone who’d studied drama and worked as an actress would be lukewarm about the theatre. Yes, she has the interests you mention, but if she has visited shows (what sort of- drama, new plays?) why doesn’t she make more of that publicly? For such a self-publicist, it’s weird. She posts about going for a walk even, so why doesn’t she post about an amazing new plays she’s seen?

And I admit I’m being snooty about M’s acting jobs. I’ve only seen clips of Suits and wasn’t impressed. The other clip I’ve seen is where she gives a man a BJ in his car. Does anyone know of anything else?

I hold up my hands to judging her for her lack of wide cultural interests. I think that’s obligatory for RF members and it was one of the problems she had with the role.