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Breaking Ham moving back to UK

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Igy · 19/08/2026 22:10

HAM and children moving back to UK according to DM

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Arjan · 21/08/2026 12:25

LemonDash · 21/08/2026 12:10

There used to be a frequent poster in the HAM threads a long time ago whose British son went to Northwestern after going to a UK public school. She was very proud of him for getting in there, so I think she'd agree that it's a well respected university. She may still be on these threads under a name change!

It absolutely is a very well respected university now, it’s regularly ranked in the top 10 universities in the US. One of my kids was accepted but chose NYU instead.

But it was very different 28 years ago when Meghan would have been applying, the SAT score requirement then wouldn’t get you past the application stage now.

The other thing I have always wondered is why there has never been a photo of her graduating in the distinctive purple NU regalia. Did she get to graduate ?

JaneGood · 21/08/2026 12:25

DandyAF · 21/08/2026 11:25

But she's not at all intellectual. She doesn't like literature, classical music, art or theatre.

I'd argue that the above is a sign your friend is not cultural, rather than not intellectual. I know intellectual people who don't like the above but are very into physics etc.

But I agree with you that MM is intelligent but probably not intellectual. The question I asked of someone else, that you answered though, was about them not seeing signs that she was academic. Which seemed strange to me given that her getting into Northwestern, the only evidence we really have, is an objective sign she was above-average academically!

She could be and we’d never know. Being an intellectual isn’t about going to the theatre.

LemonDash · 21/08/2026 12:33

JaneGood · 21/08/2026 12:25

She could be and we’d never know. Being an intellectual isn’t about going to the theatre.

Sorry I don't get what your point is it seems you're saying the same thing as @DandyAF ? Confused Because I read her as saying that intellectual isn't about going to the theatre.

LemonDash · 21/08/2026 12:35

Arjan · 21/08/2026 12:25

It absolutely is a very well respected university now, it’s regularly ranked in the top 10 universities in the US. One of my kids was accepted but chose NYU instead.

But it was very different 28 years ago when Meghan would have been applying, the SAT score requirement then wouldn’t get you past the application stage now.

The other thing I have always wondered is why there has never been a photo of her graduating in the distinctive purple NU regalia. Did she get to graduate ?

The MNer whose son went to Northwestern went many years ago, so probably not as difficult to get in as it is now, but it was still a big achievement then IIRC.

JaneGood · 21/08/2026 12:41

LemonDash · 21/08/2026 12:33

Sorry I don't get what your point is it seems you're saying the same thing as @DandyAF ? Confused Because I read her as saying that intellectual isn't about going to the theatre.

Agreeing with her and disagreeing with the post to which she replied. Just a little too brief.

It’s an odd rabbithole down here.

Of course Northwestern was and remains prestigious. Why anyone would try to take that away from someone else is beyond me.

These knuckleheads have done plenty in the past six weeks that’s worthy of discussion. Their degrees and diplomas from 25 years ago don’t matter one hoot.

Noodledog · 21/08/2026 12:46

Arjan · 21/08/2026 12:25

It absolutely is a very well respected university now, it’s regularly ranked in the top 10 universities in the US. One of my kids was accepted but chose NYU instead.

But it was very different 28 years ago when Meghan would have been applying, the SAT score requirement then wouldn’t get you past the application stage now.

The other thing I have always wondered is why there has never been a photo of her graduating in the distinctive purple NU regalia. Did she get to graduate ?

Interesting about the lack of graduation photo. That certainly seems like something Meghan would be very happy to have in the public domain.

Arjan · 21/08/2026 12:47

Also, for the record, NU does not offer, and never has offered, an International relations degree, I this this might be another one of Meghan’s embellishments.

DandyAF · 21/08/2026 12:48

Arjan · 21/08/2026 12:06

When Meghan was accepted in the 90’s the acceptance rate was closer to 50%, they also had a strong diversity program, and race /affirmative action enrollments were a huge driver to increase diversity, so I guess she also applied as a person of colour, which would have massively boosted her chances of being accepted.

The acceptance for Northwestern is now around 7%, because the number of applicants applying has quadrupled since the 90’s.

Oh acceptance rates have definitely got higher.

But it was still a very difficult university and comparatively hard to get into in the 90s. I was in the US and applying to universities then.

I mentioned that it's the top 10 of universities and has a 7% admission rate to show that contrary to what a PP said, it is not comparable to a red brick Russell Group university. About two-thirds of applicants to Bristol university receive an offer.

Possible Meghan got in as part of a diversity programme. I do know that several of her teachers from her fairly good high school said that she had very good grades, and I believe even her friend who later spoke out about Meghan said so too.

IcedPurple · 21/08/2026 12:58

Arjan · 21/08/2026 12:47

Also, for the record, NU does not offer, and never has offered, an International relations degree, I this this might be another one of Meghan’s embellishments.

Meghan majored in Theatre and International Studies. Not International Relations. The two majors are related but distinct, with the former being much more 'fluffy'.

DandyAF · 21/08/2026 12:59

Arjan · 21/08/2026 12:47

Also, for the record, NU does not offer, and never has offered, an International relations degree, I this this might be another one of Meghan’s embellishments.

Well @GoodnessGraciousMeh got the wording slightly wrong.

Meghan did a degree in a double majors of theatre and international studies. Which Northwestern absolutely do offer and always have. The International studies course is offered by the same department who offer international relations courses at graduate level.

Really easy to find with a google, but I can provide you with the link if you like.

JaneGood · 21/08/2026 13:05

IcedPurple · 21/08/2026 12:58

Meghan majored in Theatre and International Studies. Not International Relations. The two majors are related but distinct, with the former being much more 'fluffy'.

Thank you. I’m. I fan but think we are getting into bizarre “butch eating crackers” territory.

I don’t have a photo from my university graduation. It was on the stage in a massive venue with probably 1000 others and I don’t even know how photos worked. My husband didn’t attend his, either. My friend actually got super drunk and overslept and wasn’t there. Her parents were fucking livid.

JaneGood · 21/08/2026 13:10

Not A fan. NOT!

Arjan · 21/08/2026 13:16

DandyAF · 21/08/2026 12:59

Well @GoodnessGraciousMeh got the wording slightly wrong.

Meghan did a degree in a double majors of theatre and international studies. Which Northwestern absolutely do offer and always have. The International studies course is offered by the same department who offer international relations courses at graduate level.

Really easy to find with a google, but I can provide you with the link if you like.

Exactly, , she could not have done an an International Relations degree as they didn’t offer it. In fact , the International Studies degree at NU is not a stand alone degree at all, it’s an adjunct degree that you tag on to your main degree.

Knowing Meghan’s history of lying, I wouldn’t be surprised if she had taken an elective course which didn’t confer a degree in International studies and then embellished it to sound like she had a degree in International relations.

Arjan · 21/08/2026 13:24

From Meghan’s own bio on Sussex.com. It’s Meghan who conveniently got it wrong

Breaking Ham moving back to UK
DandyAF · 21/08/2026 13:29

JaneGood · 21/08/2026 12:41

Agreeing with her and disagreeing with the post to which she replied. Just a little too brief.

It’s an odd rabbithole down here.

Of course Northwestern was and remains prestigious. Why anyone would try to take that away from someone else is beyond me.

These knuckleheads have done plenty in the past six weeks that’s worthy of discussion. Their degrees and diplomas from 25 years ago don’t matter one hoot.

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Thank you. I'm also very amused at your great typo in another post of "butch eating crackers", it took me a second as I wondered what lesbians had to do with anything here Grin

BasiliskStare · 21/08/2026 13:30

I think my point is that I think MM attracts a lot criticism and often I believe it's justified. There will be those who disagree sometimes. However , there are those on some threads about MM who imply that others on Mn are full of hate and bile and deranged obsessives about her. I don't think that's true. My view is , if she has done something credit worthy , then credit where credit's due, and it seems to me she did very well to be accepted to and graduate from NW which I believe to be a very good university. BTW I had to google "butch eating crackers" - I think I get the gist now. Every day's a school day 😊

Ratherhaveacupofteaandabiscuit · 21/08/2026 14:01

ForAmberPoster · 20/08/2026 20:18

Several on here have mentioned the rehabilitation of Camilla - am I the only one that didn’t have a problem with her in the first place?

Me too.
I am the last person to condone adultery having been the victim of it myself but the Charles / Camilla / Diana / Andrew PB situation is much more nuanced that can ever be the case for anybody else given Charles unique situation.

Camilla is a good egg and comparing her situation PR wise to MM is like comparing apples and bicycles.

I don’t believe anybody can come back from M’s position given her innumerable comments, accusations, complaints and betrayals are all out there on camera preserved for posterity.

Camilla on the other hand has just the one “crime” which is that she recommenced a relationship with Charles whilst he was married and so was she.

Andrew PB was infamously continually unfaithful to her throughout and even before their marriage. It is said that Jilly Cooper based her serial shagger character Rupert Cambell-Black on him.

Charles and Diana’s marriage was a heinous mismatch from the very start in every possible way and came about from an ill thought out desire to the right thing for the monarchy instead of love.

Diana was already a highly emotional and sadly damaged person and suffered from a serious eating disorder.

Charles had no clue how to relate to her and the marriage would always have failed even if Camilla did not exist.

Let’s not forget that Diana had several lovers, and that she exposed her children to them unlike Charles who kept Camilla far away from the boys.

Camilla has always preserved a dignified silence even in the face of extreme provocation and has never sought the spotlight unlike MM, or even Diana.

She understands her role is the supporting act to the monarchy, and does not try to be the star.

MM had unrealistic expectations from the very start and thought it would be like Hollywood but with crowns.

JaneGood · 21/08/2026 14:04

DandyAF · 21/08/2026 13:29

Thank you. I'm also very amused at your great typo in another post of "butch eating crackers", it took me a second as I wondered what lesbians had to do with anything here Grin

😂 I’ll not ever again tease anyone about their typos here.

SheinSussex · 21/08/2026 15:34

Are we to expect Meghan to have a starring role as a cast member of Real Housewives of London?

Newname26 · 21/08/2026 16:11

Ratherhaveacupofteaandabiscuit · 21/08/2026 14:01

Me too.
I am the last person to condone adultery having been the victim of it myself but the Charles / Camilla / Diana / Andrew PB situation is much more nuanced that can ever be the case for anybody else given Charles unique situation.

Camilla is a good egg and comparing her situation PR wise to MM is like comparing apples and bicycles.

I don’t believe anybody can come back from M’s position given her innumerable comments, accusations, complaints and betrayals are all out there on camera preserved for posterity.

Camilla on the other hand has just the one “crime” which is that she recommenced a relationship with Charles whilst he was married and so was she.

Andrew PB was infamously continually unfaithful to her throughout and even before their marriage. It is said that Jilly Cooper based her serial shagger character Rupert Cambell-Black on him.

Charles and Diana’s marriage was a heinous mismatch from the very start in every possible way and came about from an ill thought out desire to the right thing for the monarchy instead of love.

Diana was already a highly emotional and sadly damaged person and suffered from a serious eating disorder.

Charles had no clue how to relate to her and the marriage would always have failed even if Camilla did not exist.

Let’s not forget that Diana had several lovers, and that she exposed her children to them unlike Charles who kept Camilla far away from the boys.

Camilla has always preserved a dignified silence even in the face of extreme provocation and has never sought the spotlight unlike MM, or even Diana.

She understands her role is the supporting act to the monarchy, and does not try to be the star.

MM had unrealistic expectations from the very start and thought it would be like Hollywood but with crowns.

That is a very good summary of it.
Charles and Di were a horrendous match. If he'd been Bob down the road her family would never have encouraged it.

Camilla is a good one, kept her head down and never said a thing against anyone. And actually neither have her children. They must see quite a bit of C&C but have never uttered a word about inside the RF

I absolutely think Meghan went after Harry because she thought it would all be glitzy nights out, and he didn't shatter her illusions.

caringcarer · 21/08/2026 19:45

HelenaWilson · 20/08/2026 18:57

You are either in or you are out, and if you are in you have to know your place in the hierarchy.

Well there's the institution of monarchy, in which everyone does have a defined place and the Waleses are always going to be ahead of the Sussexes.

And there are also the private family relationships, in which for example Lady Louise was close to Philip because of their shared interest in carriage driving, the late Queen regarded Sophie as another daughter, Louis wanted to sit on Grandpa's knee and the King and Zara seem fond of each other, whenever they're seen together in public. And the Sussexes by their own conduct have probably excluded themselves from the private family circle.

None of them trust Harry. He has too big a mouth and blabs the family business for cash.

CoffeeCantata · 21/08/2026 19:58

caringcarer · 21/08/2026 19:45

None of them trust Harry. He has too big a mouth and blabs the family business for cash.

And once you’ve done that, you can kiss goodbye to any further official royal role.

As well as his other faults Harry has been unforgivably stupid.

caringcarer · 21/08/2026 20:25

I'm sure I read the Duchess of Edinburgh refused to speak to Harry and Meghan before they even went to the US because she saw how they had upset Prince Phillip and the late Queen Elizabeth who she was very fond of. I don't think she will be celebrating their return. Camilla doesn't trust them with King Charles and refuses to leave Kong Charles and Harry alone together even for 2 minutes. She stays as a witness to who has said what.

Newname26 · 21/08/2026 21:05

caringcarer · 21/08/2026 20:25

I'm sure I read the Duchess of Edinburgh refused to speak to Harry and Meghan before they even went to the US because she saw how they had upset Prince Phillip and the late Queen Elizabeth who she was very fond of. I don't think she will be celebrating their return. Camilla doesn't trust them with King Charles and refuses to leave Kong Charles and Harry alone together even for 2 minutes. She stays as a witness to who has said what.

Trust is completely shattered, HAM are also known to lie, all that shit about being married 3 days before the wedding. WTF?

So many things they have come out with that could get other people into deep shit

Newname26 · 21/08/2026 21:05

Sorry double post.

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