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Dan Wootton obsessed with H &M

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BeverleyMakka · 22/07/2026 15:16

Why is Dan Wootton so obsessed and full of hatred for Harry & Meghan?

i recently listened to Spare on audible - purely because it was free and I was interested to see what he had to say. ( most of it was boring self indulgent crap imo)
predictably the algorithms have filled my YouTube with H &M stuff!

it seems there is a daily barrage of videos from DW about them, such vitriol from this man. It’s unhinged!
I mean don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan of theirs at all but Jesus he acts like they murdered his granny.
He’ll post a picture of one of them literally smiling and turn it into a massive conspiracy theory about smirking at the Queen on her deathbed or some utter nonsense

rant over!!!

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IndefatigableSusan · 27/07/2026 11:31

Bobbbb · 27/07/2026 11:25

Exactly they are all symbiotic and all use the exact same media agitation / plausible deniability methods to make $$$$$.

It’s amusing to stand above it and watch it backfire and them all flounder and fall over in their own homemade shit of self serving delusional, grandiosity - pure comedy gold that they inadvertently pump out day in day out.

Exactly, the Sussexes and the Wooten types are all part of the same machine, keeping one another relevant.

adragoncalledaudrey · 27/07/2026 11:36

“Meghan Markle was an actress, and a divorcee in her thirties when she joined the royal family, with a mind of her own and experience of life; she found the culture alien and didn’t like being told what to do. You may not like her but she was perfectly entitled to decide that it wasn’t for her and leave”

This I wholeheartedly agree with.

What I can’t understand is the insistence to remain ‘royal’ by insisting on using the title and channelling all thing royal. Little crests and the like. It makes no sense.

I understand that she is entitled to her title and to use it. Same goes with her husband.

But if I was known as a humanitarian/philanthropist/successful businesswoman/actress, I would be damned before I linked my name to a family and institution I despised. If she is all that is noted above, she shouldn’t need the doors opened with the links to the Royals.

And yet…

I would have more respect for them if they went their own way and cut the links and got on with it.

So I can understand the fascination of DW and his ilk. H&M are a mass of contradictions and their actions oft come across as puzzling.

It certainly warrants a look, conversation and comment on occasion.

If there wasn’t the compelling need to hang on tightly to the coat tails of the RF and bemoaning their lot in life (galling when they are also telling us that they are all of the above again), they would have found their niche, likely been successful and would have been left alone - bar mentions of humanitarian and philanthropic doings.

But they didn’t.

adragoncalledaudrey · 27/07/2026 11:46

He lost a 6 figure income and needs to make money somehow and this is a lucrative way of doing it.

Again, this is a valid statement.

The same could be applied to Harry and ‘Spare’.

Money is what keeps us going. Whether it be my wages, a six figure income or more.

I suppose you could argue that DW and his criticism of H&M is not a nice way of making money. The same could be said about H.

If DW is clinging to M&H to make money, it could be said that M&H are doing the same with the RF.

Both parties have had criticised the people they are clinging to too.

The parties concerned are not so very different really.

jeffgoldblum · 27/07/2026 11:48

HebeMumsnet · 27/07/2026 09:59

Morning, everyone. We've had a fair few reports about this thread overnight and about the fact that the thread is being derailed. We feel there’s quite enough drama in the actual Royal Family without posters creating a rival court here.

By all means disagree robustly, but please could we do away with the personal digs, coded in-jokes jokes and group heckling. We ask posters to argue with the point, not the poster, and derailing threads in this way isn't fair and is also pretty irritating to anyone simply trying to read the thread.

We hope you understand. Thanks for everyone's cooperation.

Thanks @HebeMumsnet, it would be nice if we could all stick to just discussing h and m and Dan Wooten! , and the personal digs have made it difficult to post , I would also appreciate not being armchair diagnosed by anonymous posters on a chat thread.
hopefully everyone will take your message to heart.

Justdancevance · 27/07/2026 11:48

They didn’t want to leave, they wanted half in half out, they talked about ‘collaborating’with the Queen’ 😆😆

Meghan wanted to be able to monetise her titles, pick the ‘sexy’ bits, be adored the world over - no Monday morning winter factory visits for her, just film premiers and UN photo ops

Despite them laying all this out on their website, defendsrs say they left. Nope, they thought the institution needed them and would agree their terms but the RF told them bye.

They are desperately hanging on to their Royal connection as they have nothing else

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/07/2026 11:53

If DW is clinging to M&H to make money, it could be said that M&H are doing the same with the RF.
*Both parties have had criticised them too.
The parties concerned are not so very different really.

Very much so.
Two cheeks of the same arse!

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 11:56

And maybe no more pigeon talk and daft gifs would be welcome. I think Mnhq has made that clear with saying no in jokes and group heckling 👍🤞

jeffgoldblum · 27/07/2026 11:58

AnAutumnCrow · 27/07/2026 10:17

Anyway, that's me over and out.

No , I found your information very interesting and relevant, although I am on the ANL thread I didn’t delve deeply into byline apart from the surface!
and of course byline times is not derailing, it is very relevant to Dan wootens “ obsession “ with h and m …which is the topic in the op and the original question!
carry on!

KittyTinker · 27/07/2026 11:59

Waryandwearyfactorten · 27/07/2026 09:51

Seriously?

Clarkson’s odious rhetoric speaks for itself and he had to apologise formally for it.

Both Morgan and Wootten have form for being outright misogynists.

Wootten famously for laughing at disparaging sexual comments made by Laurence Fox about the journalist Ava Evans.

Morgan, prior to meeting MM, was criticised for aggressively defending a cricketer who made highly highly inappropriate, live on-air comments to Australian sports reporter Mel McLaughlin. He previously criticised actress Susan Sarandon about her cleavage and there are a litany of other incidents.

This was aside from their attacks on MM, who Morgan has been verbally antagonising non-stop since 2020 but to which, her credit, she has very wisely not said a single word in response and yet he continues… .

The words that both Morgan and Wootten use to attack Meghan are inherently gendered adjectives such as “shameless” and are highly critical and derogatory.

I am surprised that so many posters on here are sticking up for them. It shows what will be tolerated to defend an inherently misogynistic institution such as the Monarchy frankly!

Harry says: "Unlike the other matrons, Pat wasn't hot. Pat was cold. Pat was small, mousy, frazzled, and her hair fell greasily into her always tired eyes." He writes of her knees and spine: "The latter was crooked, the former chronically stiff. Walking was hard, stairs were torture. She'd descend backwards, glacially."
Harry, by his telling, was the most enthusiastic in "making faces" at her.

lollibit · 27/07/2026 11:59

There's a whole raft of this stuff involving the Kardashians, Beckhams, Katie Price all the way down to Love island and My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. It's all the same stuff. Sadly the Sussexes have slid down into this arena. I'm sure they don't even realise they are there. There are many presenters, speakers etc about all of this. Any idiot can have their voice online. This is their destination.

lollibit · 27/07/2026 12:04

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 11:56

And maybe no more pigeon talk and daft gifs would be welcome. I think Mnhq has made that clear with saying no in jokes and group heckling 👍🤞

I would dispute the use of gifs. They are provided by MN.

Justdancevance · 27/07/2026 12:07

Thats the sad thing, it’s all about generating clicks. Sell what you’ve got, whether it’s a sex video; sweet nods to your mill’s grave, your children.

They need Dan Wootton’s, secret what’s app groups and big PR departments to generate traffic.

Because they do fuck all important work, and all this click bait pantomime is to disguise this fact

jeffgoldblum · 27/07/2026 12:11

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 11:56

And maybe no more pigeon talk and daft gifs would be welcome. I think Mnhq has made that clear with saying no in jokes and group heckling 👍🤞

Giffs are now part of mn ! , a picture conveys a thousand words! , and it’s a chat forum, many people including myself are here for entertainment and don’t take things seriously.
and no mn made no mention of giffs at all 🤷‍♀️

adragoncalledaudrey · 27/07/2026 12:11

I am all for not derailing.

Some may think gifs daft and that is their prerogative. But MN provide them and I for one find them amusing.

As HebeMn said there has been a lot of reports overnight.

It would be quite nice if some didn’t go mass reporting in order to silence or muzzle those they disagree with.

It shouldn’t be that way.

I also hope that people on this board (although I’d love it across everywhere) don’t feel the need to turn to AI/Chatgpt etc. to compose their posts. It all feels slightly robotic and inauthentic.

I’ve seen it in other places and I’m not a fan.

It takes away from genuine conversation to me.

Arjan · 27/07/2026 12:18

Dan Wooten and Omid Scobie are opposite ends of the same spectrum. I don’t think I have ever seen any Sussex fans decrying Scobie or wondering why he hates Catherine so much and has been the spokesperson for Harry&Meghan.

adragoncalledaudrey · 27/07/2026 12:20

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/07/2026 11:53

If DW is clinging to M&H to make money, it could be said that M&H are doing the same with the RF.
*Both parties have had criticised them too.
The parties concerned are not so very different really.

Very much so.
Two cheeks of the same arse!

I’m sorry. I can waffle a bit!

I do love seeing posts that are succinct and can say what I’ve said in less than 10 words.

👏🏽 Brava

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 12:21

I know gifs are part of MN. They are often used as a form of sarcasm in my opinion

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/07/2026 12:24

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 12:21

I know gifs are part of MN. They are often used as a form of sarcasm in my opinion

Is sarcasm not allowed then?

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 12:27

I am not part of Mnhq and do not dictate what is and isn't allowed. I am expressing a personal opinion which you are quite entitled to ignore.

lollibit · 27/07/2026 12:29

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 12:27

I am not part of Mnhq and do not dictate what is and isn't allowed. I am expressing a personal opinion which you are quite entitled to ignore.

Ok

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jeffgoldblum · 27/07/2026 12:30

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 12:21

I know gifs are part of MN. They are often used as a form of sarcasm in my opinion

Do explain how a gif of Batman and Robin under a comment about holy … is sarcastic?
I always take things at face value, a funny picture is quite often , just a funny picture…there isn’t some insidious meaning behind everything 🤷‍♀️

IAmATorturedPoet · 27/07/2026 12:31

simpsonthecat · 27/07/2026 12:27

I am not part of Mnhq and do not dictate what is and isn't allowed. I am expressing a personal opinion which you are quite entitled to ignore.

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jeffgoldblum · 27/07/2026 12:33

Anyway.. sorry @HebeMumsnet, I imagine talking about gifs and pm and jc on a Dan Wooten / ham thread is derailing, apologies.

lollibit · 27/07/2026 12:34

I love a gif and yes I'm so tempted to search two cheeks of the same arse 😂

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lollibit · 27/07/2026 12:35

jeffgoldblum · 27/07/2026 12:33

Anyway.. sorry @HebeMumsnet, I imagine talking about gifs and pm and jc on a Dan Wooten / ham thread is derailing, apologies.

Me too!