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PR Disasters thread 21

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OctopusFriend · 06/07/2026 15:37

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Dopsicle · 08/07/2026 08:49

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 08:24

I agree that he had boundaries and targets in the army. It showed what he could do when he put his mind to it, put down the spliff and the bottle and properly engaged.
Since leaving the RF and the UK, he doesn't seem to have a proper job, just tinkering round the edges, quasi royal tours, speeches, arrogant and uninformed pronouncements.
He needs to stop being so self obsessed and sorry for himself and find something he can apply himself to and engage with.

The chances of him finding something and engaging with it and applying himself are really minimal in his current situation, though. Because he needs somebody to help him with the choice, and then organise it for him and give him step-by-step instruction. I don't think he has the personality traits or the critical thinking skills to make a plan of useful work and follow it through. Somebody else needs to lay down the rails and then keep shunting him along them.

This was done for him in the army, which has the structure and discipline to achieve this even with less than promising members. To a lesser extent, it was done for him by the Royal Family and the MIGS. But now who is in charge of Project Harry? Meghan, a person who values the appearance of achievement over achievement itself, and who has numerous grandiose plans which fall by the wayside once they need actual hard work and learning. There's not going to be any deep, long-term, genuine progress at anything useful by either of them.

DJPJ · 08/07/2026 08:50

Fromhere1 · 08/07/2026 07:37

This is so odd... How can things be kept a secret in this day and age? I always thought it was strange that M said she was friends with Eugenie before meeting H...and then there were no photos to support that (even though M is all about the photos).

Anyway...it is sad that M is not here to support him in what must be a very difficult week for him.

I suspect they are all here already - just that we don’t know yet if MM will accompany PH on the 3 public visits scheduled - Chelsea Pensioners, IG and Scottie’s Little Soldiers - or even if PH will do any / all of the above now?

Privately they also had arrangements to see ‘friends and family’ - Althorpe and maybe KC3 meeting A&L might well be still on the cards - although KC3 won’t allow any mention that it’s happening as a condition but expect MM to somehow infer it has.

Whos on for a bet that MM will or won’t support her husband and these three public events as planned?

daffydreams · 08/07/2026 08:50

Even if Harry is 'intelligent' he's definitely got zero emotional intelligence

PinkHairbrushClub · 08/07/2026 08:52

The PP commenting that he is capable when he applies himself if he passed the flight exams is clearly accurate.

Which can only mean that he has not applied himself in anyway at all to real life. He doesn't care about money, PR, how he is perceived, he has no interest in understanding how other people may think and feel. He is purely selfish and self interested. If he didn't apply himself in school he has no interest in wider knowledge and broadening his horizons.

He can moan about being a spare all he wants, but he was offered a life of immense privilege and wealth and was so self absorbed he didn't take up ANY opportunity to learn how to be the best he could be. That takes some supreme arrogance.

It's actually worse, I think, than actually being incapable and not very bright, because it means he chose to keep a narrow world!

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 08:55

Dopsicle · 08/07/2026 08:49

The chances of him finding something and engaging with it and applying himself are really minimal in his current situation, though. Because he needs somebody to help him with the choice, and then organise it for him and give him step-by-step instruction. I don't think he has the personality traits or the critical thinking skills to make a plan of useful work and follow it through. Somebody else needs to lay down the rails and then keep shunting him along them.

This was done for him in the army, which has the structure and discipline to achieve this even with less than promising members. To a lesser extent, it was done for him by the Royal Family and the MIGS. But now who is in charge of Project Harry? Meghan, a person who values the appearance of achievement over achievement itself, and who has numerous grandiose plans which fall by the wayside once they need actual hard work and learning. There's not going to be any deep, long-term, genuine progress at anything useful by either of them.

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You're right, he definitely needs that guidance and structure.
If he was a regular person - or even a working royal - he'd have to go to work, be engaged, be active.
He's just flailing around a California mansion. Bitter and self obsessed.

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Recklessismymiddlename · 08/07/2026 08:55

I’ll tell you what to expect over the next few days, a barrage of post/threads, criticising the wales family, coming up soon, depending on how any talks with rf go. The Sussexes and their fans, will be regrouping after yesterday, but it won’t take them long.

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 08:56

Recklessismymiddlename · 08/07/2026 08:55

I’ll tell you what to expect over the next few days, a barrage of post/threads, criticising the wales family, coming up soon, depending on how any talks with rf go. The Sussexes and their fans, will be regrouping after yesterday, but it won’t take them long.

Definitely! The kick back will be strong!

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TheRealHousewife · 08/07/2026 08:57

I’ve read up thread about how people consider Harry to be stupid.

Myself, I would consider Harry to be foolish as he continually shows a lack of capacity for sound judgement. He is his own worst enemy (as is HaM in general).

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 08:59

DJPJ · 08/07/2026 08:50

I suspect they are all here already - just that we don’t know yet if MM will accompany PH on the 3 public visits scheduled - Chelsea Pensioners, IG and Scottie’s Little Soldiers - or even if PH will do any / all of the above now?

Privately they also had arrangements to see ‘friends and family’ - Althorpe and maybe KC3 meeting A&L might well be still on the cards - although KC3 won’t allow any mention that it’s happening as a condition but expect MM to somehow infer it has.

Whos on for a bet that MM will or won’t support her husband and these three public events as planned?

If they were here, we would know about it. It would be leaked, kids jumping up and down with excitement to see their beloved grandfather etc 🙄

Katie Nicholl was emotional last night. She was ill with stress because of the accusations thrown at her. She battled cancer. She was invited to H's inner circle which he vehemently denied but she could back it up. H is one very very nasty individual and I really hope people see him for exactly what he is

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 09:03

After his scathing comments about the judge yesterday, I would not be surprised if KC did not meet up with him at all

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 09:04

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 09:03

After his scathing comments about the judge yesterday, I would not be surprised if KC did not meet up with him at all

Is there no end to Harry's ignorant and foolish pronouncements?

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Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 09:05

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 09:04

Is there no end to Harry's ignorant and foolish pronouncements?

Apparently no end at all 🤣

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 09:05

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 09:05

Apparently no end at all 🤣

😂😂

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DJPJ · 08/07/2026 09:07

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 08:59

If they were here, we would know about it. It would be leaked, kids jumping up and down with excitement to see their beloved grandfather etc 🙄

Katie Nicholl was emotional last night. She was ill with stress because of the accusations thrown at her. She battled cancer. She was invited to H's inner circle which he vehemently denied but she could back it up. H is one very very nasty individual and I really hope people see him for exactly what he is

I forgot the 4th engagement Well Child Birmingham Hospital….do we think he will do all 4? Do we think MM will publicly attend and support him as they had previously announced - or do we think that he will bail, or she will bail and he will do them solo?

Will each of the events be marred by journos asking Qs - or will they all be behind closed doors with photos issued?

Can you tell me where I can find the Katie Nichol interview?

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 09:10

DJPJ · 08/07/2026 09:07

I forgot the 4th engagement Well Child Birmingham Hospital….do we think he will do all 4? Do we think MM will publicly attend and support him as they had previously announced - or do we think that he will bail, or she will bail and he will do them solo?

Will each of the events be marred by journos asking Qs - or will they all be behind closed doors with photos issued?

Can you tell me where I can find the Katie Nichol interview?

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if she doesn't turn up to support him emotionally after the judgement, it speaks volumes. Even if you thought your OH had f+++ up completely, you'd still support. Having said that, I have never seen / heard her publicly support him at all

Aprilfountain · 08/07/2026 09:12

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 09:04

Is there no end to Harry's ignorant and foolish pronouncements?

If ever there was an end in sight, ol' Meg would fire him up again with more tales of woe is me, inmho.

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 09:15

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 09:10

if she doesn't turn up to support him emotionally after the judgement, it speaks volumes. Even if you thought your OH had f+++ up completely, you'd still support. Having said that, I have never seen / heard her publicly support him at all

No, and it was very noticeable during the Spare promotion as well.

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Passingthrough123 · 08/07/2026 09:19

I suspect the DM will be quite measured in its response – i.e. I don't think they'll print a run of salacious stories about the participants in the coming days. They want to hold onto the moral high ground for a bit longer, or at least while Prince Hapless is still in the UK.

Passingthrough123 · 08/07/2026 09:21

OctopusFriend · 08/07/2026 09:15

No, and it was very noticeable during the Spare promotion as well.

There were stories suggesting she'd told him not to go ahead with the book. Her not turning up this week will imply that she didn't think he should proceed with this case either. I don't believe that – she's all over that statement that was released yesterday. You can practically hear her reciting it.

IcedPurple · 08/07/2026 09:21

Dopsicle · 08/07/2026 08:49

The chances of him finding something and engaging with it and applying himself are really minimal in his current situation, though. Because he needs somebody to help him with the choice, and then organise it for him and give him step-by-step instruction. I don't think he has the personality traits or the critical thinking skills to make a plan of useful work and follow it through. Somebody else needs to lay down the rails and then keep shunting him along them.

This was done for him in the army, which has the structure and discipline to achieve this even with less than promising members. To a lesser extent, it was done for him by the Royal Family and the MIGS. But now who is in charge of Project Harry? Meghan, a person who values the appearance of achievement over achievement itself, and who has numerous grandiose plans which fall by the wayside once they need actual hard work and learning. There's not going to be any deep, long-term, genuine progress at anything useful by either of them.

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Yes, exactly this.

He's very much someone who needs structure and discipline. Boarding school gave it to him, then the army, then, to a lesser extent, life as a working royal. He had people organise his diary, lay his clothes out for him, prep him and drive him to engagements. All he had to do was show up and be fawned over.

Now he's in the 'real world'. A rich person's real world, but still a world with responsibilities and consequences. And he's found freedom from the support network he so badly needs. Now all he has is Meghan, and she is very happy to encourage his neuroses.

I get Charles Foster Kane vibes from him, rattling around in a huge house in California. No purposes in life, his glory days long gone, and probably simmering resentment between the spouses too.

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elessar · 08/07/2026 09:27

Does anyone know which days the other engagements are supposed to happen on? Are there more today?

FWIW I think Harry will still go ahead with them. I think he’ll be absolutely smarting with righteous indignation but he won’t want to lose face (or the opportunity to be centre stage with applause and well wishes which his ego will need)

I don’t care if KC meets H, with or without M and the kids - if it remains private, which I’m certain will be a stipulation of the palace. So we should hear nothing about it either way. I do think Harry’s comments about the judge have once again made it a very difficult situation for the king though.

and will H&M have the sense to keep their mouth’s shut? History would tell us no. But it really might be the final straw this time if they don’t. Indeed it could already be too late.

Passingthrough123 · 08/07/2026 09:33

This is an incredible statement on yesterday's ruling by Lady Colin Campbell, who has sued the Mail a few times. 👏

x.com/LadyColinCampb/status/2074654016278073826

Passingthrough123 · 08/07/2026 09:37

Tom Sykes has just announced his new book – this is the actual UK cover! 😂😂😂😂

PR Disasters thread 21
notimagain · 08/07/2026 09:45

Starryfifty · 08/07/2026 08:32

He most likely has a lot of supervision/assistance to help pass those exams. That was a long time ago and no way I would trust this man to fly now tbh.

Every single thing he has said / done in the last 7 years shows seriously poor judgement/ lack of basic common sense.

We're probably going off at a tangent but given these continuing suspicions about H it's maybe important to realise that during a lot of flying training, especially military, especially at basic level, there is a lot of solo flying (probably close to 50% during the later stage of some courses, if not more).

What that means is as a student progresses through a course there's less and less opportunity for an instructor to assist.....but nevertheless those solo flights may/will be monitored to some degree, and the student would expect to demonstrate they'd improved their skills on those solo flights during the routine dual check rides that pop up through courses...

Fundamentally flying training is nothing like learning to drive where you get lots and lots of dual instruction, and it's dual instruction only, and then suddenly you go through a single check drive...pass that and your "through".

Now I think what's happened to H's state of mind in the last 7 years is another matter, and there are all sorts of theories about his behaviour these days but what I would say, all IMO, as an ex flying instructor and examiner, is that during his flying career he simply can't have been consistently "demonstrating seriously poor judgement/ lack of basic common sense" that's a good way of failing course(s) or even ending up dead.

HoldMyWine · 08/07/2026 09:47

Passingthrough123 · 08/07/2026 09:37

Tom Sykes has just announced his new book – this is the actual UK cover! 😂😂😂😂

Excellent!

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