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PR Disasters thread 20

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OctopusFriend · 02/07/2026 20:13

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KilkennyCats · 05/07/2026 15:56

KatherineParr · 05/07/2026 15:54

What we saw with Sentebale, was that although Harry was just a patron, in practice many of the trustees were Harry supporters and he seems to have had an unusual amount of control over this for a patron. I'm thinking of the time Harry wanted to quickly vote a friend in as a trustee and Sophie Chandauka complained that due process wasn't being followed. There might be something very similar going on with Invictus where the trustees have been at least partly recruited on their willingness to follow Harry's lead.

No proof - just hypothesising.

Very likely.

Lunde · 05/07/2026 15:59

OctopusFriend · 05/07/2026 15:28

That's him confirming that he believes in inherited roles.

It shows he hasn't really thought beyond his idea of "Royal patronages" where Harry "inherited" certain charities from his mother and grandparents.

It's odd that despite the whining in Spare - Harry seems to be expecting Archie to replicate his life in the UK. He talks about UK schooling... Is Archie going to serve in the British Army to give him a military connection as well?

OctopusFriend · 05/07/2026 16:00

Lunde · 05/07/2026 15:59

It shows he hasn't really thought beyond his idea of "Royal patronages" where Harry "inherited" certain charities from his mother and grandparents.

It's odd that despite the whining in Spare - Harry seems to be expecting Archie to replicate his life in the UK. He talks about UK schooling... Is Archie going to serve in the British Army to give him a military connection as well?

Yes, it's really very odd. You'd think - after all those claims - that he would want different for Archie. It obviously wasn't quite as bad as he painted it.

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Recklessismymiddlename · 05/07/2026 16:02

Or triggered as much as he says he was…
someone somewhere has been telling porkies to suit whatever narrative of the day minute he wants.

bluegreygreen · 05/07/2026 16:27

Someone upthread (sorry, can't remember who) showed the invitation to the Invictus Foundation event - it talked about a discussion of the way forward for Invictus.

I wondered if the issue of the patron might come up at that meeting. I also thought the wording of the flyer was reflective of the speech the CEO made at the German Sports Festival, when he talked about expanding on their model in the future.

It may be that some more general changes are happening at Invictus (she says hopefully).

BillyBites · 05/07/2026 16:35

There is zero chance of Meghan allowing those kids to be educated in the UK.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/07/2026 16:35

Perhaps they still think he's OK , perhaps they haven't got anyone else who will step up to it, perhaps no-one wants to rock the boat - I simply don't know

I don't know either, @basiliskstare, but IMO it doesn't say much for the trustees' judgement if they're content to just allow him to go on destroying what Invictus is supposed to be about

Of course they wouldn't welcome the chaos he'd try to kick up if removed, but what's the alternative ... just to go on enabling him until there's nothing left?

MyDogClive · 05/07/2026 16:43

Lunde · 05/07/2026 15:59

It shows he hasn't really thought beyond his idea of "Royal patronages" where Harry "inherited" certain charities from his mother and grandparents.

It's odd that despite the whining in Spare - Harry seems to be expecting Archie to replicate his life in the UK. He talks about UK schooling... Is Archie going to serve in the British Army to give him a military connection as well?

Hadn’t thought full stop. LOL.

At some level, Harry lives such a narrow life, that it is possible that he really does believe the world works like this. Not so much what Meghan wants, Meghan gets: more what Harry thinks, comes true. Except that it doesn’t. Once upon a time some MIGS may have magicked up some opportunities and patronages, but he walked away.

DJPJ · 05/07/2026 17:04

BillyBites · 05/07/2026 16:35

There is zero chance of Meghan allowing those kids to be educated in the UK.

Unless she could monetise them - eg a fly on the wall of upper class Blighty life - boarding school, traditions etc

ShamedBySiri · 05/07/2026 17:05

Starryfifty · 05/07/2026 15:27

And I really don't think he can "pass it down"

Anyway, wouldn't Archie need to do time in the British armed forces for Invictus to have any meaning/connection for him. Don't suppose Harry has thought about that.

HoldMyWine · 05/07/2026 17:37

Catherine has just put some beautiful photos of her and her family meeting her at the end of the 3 peaks challenge, very emotional. They seem like such a loving and close family.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/07/2026 17:46

DJPJ · 05/07/2026 17:04

Unless she could monetise them - eg a fly on the wall of upper class Blighty life - boarding school, traditions etc

Can't see any of the other parents being happy about that.

Strawberriesandcaviar · 05/07/2026 17:49

HoldMyWine · 05/07/2026 17:37

Catherine has just put some beautiful photos of her and her family meeting her at the end of the 3 peaks challenge, very emotional. They seem like such a loving and close family.

They are lovely photos!

EmpressSisi · 05/07/2026 17:52

I really do love this photo, and the one of an emotional looking Charlotte with an oblivious Louis playing with the dog in the background 🤣

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HoldMyWine · 05/07/2026 17:55

Yes so natural and at ease with each other.

OctopusFriend · 05/07/2026 17:56

EmpressSisi · 05/07/2026 17:52

I really do love this photo, and the one of an emotional looking Charlotte with an oblivious Louis playing with the dog in the background 🤣

What absolutely gorgeous pictures! Such a lovely, happy family. What a contrast.

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Ohpleeeease · 05/07/2026 18:01

ShamedBySiri · 05/07/2026 17:05

Anyway, wouldn't Archie need to do time in the British armed forces for Invictus to have any meaning/connection for him. Don't suppose Harry has thought about that.

From the very few photos I’ve seen of Archie and from MM’s description of him as “tender” I don’t know that the armed forces are Archie’s natural home. I hope Harry is open minded about his son’s preferred career path, given the fuss he made about his own upbringing.

Starryfifty · 05/07/2026 18:10

Ohpleeeease · 05/07/2026 18:01

From the very few photos I’ve seen of Archie and from MM’s description of him as “tender” I don’t know that the armed forces are Archie’s natural home. I hope Harry is open minded about his son’s preferred career path, given the fuss he made about his own upbringing.

And how much Archie loves Meg of course 😳

Starryfifty · 05/07/2026 18:10

OctopusFriend · 05/07/2026 17:56

What absolutely gorgeous pictures! Such a lovely, happy family. What a contrast.

Expect another back of heads photo dump soon

OctopusFriend · 05/07/2026 18:12

Starryfifty · 05/07/2026 18:10

Expect another back of heads photo dump soon

Of course.

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OctopusFriend · 05/07/2026 18:14

Also, it's clear that the extended family are close as well. That's what Archie and Lilibet don't have. Only Doria and I'm not sure about that situation.

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ShamedBySiri · 05/07/2026 18:17

DJPJ · 05/07/2026 12:14

Just read up on High Conflict Personality - I think this perfectly describes PH.

“A high-conflict personality (HCP) refers to an individual who consistently engages in blame, struggles to manage emotions, and habitually intensifies or prolongs conflicts. Though not a formal clinical diagnosis, the concept is widely used in legal and mental health fields.

Characteristics:
Preoccupation with Blaming: They rarely take responsibility, deflecting fault onto a specific "Target of Blame".

All-or-Nothing Thinking: Situations and people are viewed in extremes (perfect or terrible), leaving little room for compromise.

Unmanaged Emotions: They often react with intense, disproportionate anger or distress.

Extreme Behaviors: They may resort to actions that the vast majority of people would avoid, such as stalking, aggressive harassment, or extreme manipulation

These traits are often linked to or overlap with Cluster B personality disorders (such as narcissistic, borderline, and antisocial personality disorders)

How to Manage Interactions:
Dealing with someone who has an HCP requires a completely different approach from standard conflict resolution:

Use the BIFF Method: When responding to their messages, ensure your communication is Brief, Informative, Friendly, and Firm.

Set Rigid Boundaries: Define exactly what behavior you will and will not accept, and stick to the consequences when those boundaries are crossed.

Do Not Defend or Justify: Arguing or attempting to prove them wrong will usually only escalate the situation.”

I think the RF have the measure of him and although it’s a hideous emotional toll to deal with such a family member if you have a consistent strategy you can bump along from one issue to the next without inadvertently escalating it.

Such an excellent description - they could have used Harry as the original case study.

One of the problems about so called "project thaw" is that it goes way beyond apologies and reconciliation (or knocking the boys' heads together, whichever idiot suggested that). They are both such unlikeable people, no one wants to spend time with them. Some people bring the joy, and others suck it from the air, bringing their dark cloud of doom with them to spread misery wherever they go.
Best avoid avoid avoid.

But it's a shame for the children, locked up in that mansion like Rapunzel in her tower, no other relations in their lives at all. I hope they have some friends, though frankly, nothing against the children obviously but who would want them for a play date, with no doubt a serving of drama from Mama dearest on the side.

Recklessismymiddlename · 05/07/2026 18:18

EmpressSisi · 05/07/2026 17:52

I really do love this photo, and the one of an emotional looking Charlotte with an oblivious Louis playing with the dog in the background 🤣

Look how Carole and William are leaning into each other, that is a properly mutually close relationship.

ShamedBySiri · 05/07/2026 18:20

Also, I do wonder what they are telling the children about this trip. Have they said nothing, so that on the day it is decided they all go Mama dearest wakes them up, "come on, we are off to see Grandpa the King in the UK"?
Or have they told them they might be going, and subjected them to the whole on/off/on/off build up to nothing? It's such a bizarre way to behave.

And the charities must be tearing their hair out not knowing who, if anyone is coming. 🤷‍♀️

Starryfifty · 05/07/2026 18:27

OctopusFriend · 05/07/2026 18:14

Also, it's clear that the extended family are close as well. That's what Archie and Lilibet don't have. Only Doria and I'm not sure about that situation.

Doria hasn't been seen a while. Might be miffed over Meg wishing the most maternal mother (or whatever that shite was) a happy Mother's Day

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