PR Disasters thread 20

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They seem to flip flop between Catherine is the one to hold out an olive branch and will beg them to reconcile and Catherine will never allow the bothers to meet despite them being desperate to.

I suspect neither. She is getting on with her life and rolls her eyes occasionally if he's mentioned but is neither going to stop the brothers from meeting is William thinks it's the right thing to do, but isn't going to push him if he doesn't want to.

I wish that Invictus would come clean on exactly how much HAM's participation costs the charity
-who pays their travel?
-who pays for the floor of a 5* hotel for them and their entourage
-does Meghan pay for her multiple outfits? Why doesn't she wear official Invictus clothing?

Just looked up Simon Weston and it seems he's already a spokesman for this: https://www.veteransfoundation.org.uk/

Obviously I've no idea if he'd be interested in Invictus, but he's certainly not sitting around on his butt (not that I'd expect him to)

Yes, why is it her personal fashion show?
Why on earth the "one year to go" nonsense?

Why aren't they coming clean? Would be the best way to get shot of him.

Of course if they had the balls and just mass resigned, then that would put an end to it!
Harry doesn’t know how to do anything and certainly not actually organise so much as a piss up in a brewery!

I wonder what Simon’s opinion of H is - that could make for an interesting read.

Also, is reputational damage not enough grounds to even consider getting shot of him ?

Apologies, I should have said Catherine, not she, to make my point clear. I am of the opinion that Catherine is doing quite a good job of cracking on with her lot and rising above HAM’s drama. And that’s the bit that burns in Montecito.

Re the rest, I think the DSM-V has perfectly adequate diagnosis to cover both Meghan and Harry. Even without AI.

You'd need to ask the chair and/or trustees, Lunde, since the annual accounts state what's been spent on fundraising and charitable activities but not how it's been spent

Should you wish to, the Chair of the Invictus Foundation is currently Lord Allen of Kensington:
https://members.parliament.uk/member/4304/contact

... and the rest of the trustees are listed here: https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/5054988/trustees

I agree. The working royals probably give the Sussexes very little thought at all. They wanted out, they are out, end of story.

Simon Weston is awesome. DP has met him and loves the man.

There is a local homeless (and prevention of homelessness) service that DP and I support that has a lot of veterans in its user group. (We help with the supply of clean clothing & bedding. I’m hoping to set up an ‘interview clothes loan scheme’ one day soon.)

Every day for this charity is about funding and supplies and services, from food to foot care. What they could do with a fraction of the money that Invictus allegedly pisses away on its patron’s ‘expenses’ …

Makes me frustrated that nobody can even look at the accounts properly.

So it's Harry in
The kids are out
In
Out
In
Out
And shake it all about
You merch some flower sprinkles and U-turn around
That's what it's all about!
[all together now]
Oooh the Cokey-Blokey
Oooh the Cokey-Blokey
Oooh the Cokey-Blokey
Scream, whine, moan, kvetch
RAH RAH RAH

Superb.

He has the Weston Spirit charity too. Frankly he'd be daft to get involved with Invictus, and he's clearly not daft.

Similar to the reasons people don't get confrontational with other outspoken people in the public eye (I'm thinking of the orange hued one...) Because they deny, lie, attack and bluster in return. They don't accept blame or reconsider. And the person confronting them is left wondering if they've been the unreasonable one. It's effective a depressing amount of the time.

I don’t know how you’d remove PH as patron of Invictus, he has spoken publicly about his desire to pass it down to Archie.
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Charities can remove patrons whenever they want, can't they? Several charities dropped Fergie like a hot brick after Andrew Windsor's arrest.
Patrons don't have to be proven guilty of anything; it's all about reputation.

And I really don't think he can "pass it down"

That's him confirming that he believes in inherited roles.

I have cut and pasted this because I posted in error on the Are H&M coming to the UK thread (sic)

I think it is more pertinent here

H is beyond tiresome. I wonder , as Patron , what plans or activities he has put in place to attract big spending sponsors to invest in the IG. Because at the moment it doesn't look like the 23m from the govt is going to cut it , based on recent IG spending. It also doesn't look like just H showing up at the NEC , mayhap with M , is going to do enough good. Didn't Sophie C say after the initial years , H's annual polo matches weren't raising enough money for Sentebale and indeed some potential sponsors were put off by him. If he can't attract sponsorship then I think IG have a good reason to ask him to step down for the good of the charity. But as a PP says - who has the bottle to do this?

Also to add as @DryTerryandJUNE says - SF was dropped as a Patron - there must be a mechanism. Perhaps they still think he's OK , perhaps they haven't got anyone else who will step up to it, perhaps no-one wants to rock the boat - I simply don't know. At the moment though all the focus is on H an not on the veterans and that can't be right. Shouldn't we be hearing more positive stories about funding , facilities etc now - not H's security.

Harry was a soldier who served this country, he and his family could well be targeted in the UK. Charlie should pay for his son’s security, he has plenty of money , then it would not come from the public purse.

Why should Charles pay, @RhannionKPSS? It’s Harry who wants to come. He should pay for himself. There are thousands of soldiers who served their country who have to make their way in civilian life without inherited millions and a tell all book deal.

It’s a real shame George, Charlotte and Louis don’t know their cousins

Shame for whom? What is so special about A and L? I think G, C and L will come to realise their parents protected them in keeping them apart.* *

Besides, the Wales children do know their cousins. I'm sure they spend lots of time with Arthur, Grace, Rose and Inigo. It's the Sussex children who are being completely isolated from family with the exception of Doria (and I'm not even convinced they see her that often).