PR Disasters thread 20

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Of course they will be safe.
RAVEC aren't some sort of cowboy outfit!

To be fair to Earl Spencer, he can't exactly deny Harry access to his mother's grave.

I do feel sorry for Harry. This is not a nice way to live.

Edit: think I've quoted the wrong post but can't change that now

Imo those children are the grandchildren of the King, and no matter what silly games their mother in particular are playing , they deserve to be safe if they visit the country they were born in.

Just to check: You do know that Harry has a special arrangement with RAVEC whereby his and his family's security needs are kept under continual review and provided he cooperate with them, all appropriate security will be provided?

You're aware of this, yes?

Harry would have then had the opportunity to work in protecting endangered animals, something I think he would have been excellent at.

Why would he be 'excellent' at this? What qualifications or aptitude does he have? Has he shown any interest in endangered animals outside of a few activities he did as a royal? I'm not aware of it.

Honestly I think that being grandchildren of the King is pretty meaningless. The Queen had more grandchildren, all of whom were resident in the UK and some of whom were performing duties on her behalf. There was no hysteria around their security, presumably they had what was considered necessary and no-one came to harm.

Grandchildren are too remote to be of interest.

Yes I did think they would come. I think they need royal adjacency - but maybe getting the column inches is better than nothing (ie no motorcade, flashing lights, photos with KC3 - none of which was ever on the cards) - but maybe in this virtual world it’s still something to be reminded in the public space, however controversially, that they are royal adjacent.

However, as ever, this is unlikely to sell more UPFs and tat online for H&M but instead, as ever, inadvertently generate a bonanza revenue stream of clicks for their hated media.

Shot themselves in the foot again.

He could have started with his endangered polo ponies.

Yes, their biggest security threat appears to be themselves.

He'll allow them to visit the grave of course, but will he allow filming and photographs?
Bearing in mind Meghan's extraordinary performance when she visited the grave before, perhaps not.

Absolutely 💯

He could legitimately deny Meghan and the children access. It would be less of a circus. She never met Diana, what possible reason does she have to go?

Like the last time. Performance.

And even if all these shenanigans was just to generate PR - they are personally sabotaging their own brand within their Ratner Royal antics.

Quite a special and entertaining pantomime all round.

Harry has now handed Spencer the means to deny him access! , if it isn’t safe for harry then obviously nobody wants anything to happen to him or Diana’s grave!

Harry doth protest too much.

Honestly what’s the bid difference between London and Birmingham for security, absolutely nothing. More smoke and mirrors for attention.

Yes - “the risk follows the person not the place” remember?

The pair of them are an extraordinary cautionary tale of over-estimating one's own talents and popularity. I wonder how far they are from the end of their road, or if there is an end to it? Their public comms is getting to Katie Price levels of publicity-jerking.

One thing I don't understand is the clothes merching. They need multiple millions a year just to pay the bills for their Temu version of California rich-list life. So how does flogging outfits for a few hundred dollars help? Does it encourage other people to use the platform which she then gets a cut of? Even so, like her other (moribund) revenue streams, it seems nowhere near enough even added to the interest from their presumed inherited capital.

What's the point? Is it an attempt to establish post-divorce income for MM or is there some laundry being done somehow?

Harry’s particular brand of logic is practically a science in itself.

Not a typo!

I can just see the graveside photo. Meghan prostrate on the grave with tears running from one eye. Harry slumped against a tree, holding his brow and looking anguished, the backs of the childrens heads, bowed in front of a giant photo propped against the gravestone. No end of amusement.Perhaps the children will have hand written letters addressed to Granny which they want to bury as close to the grave as they can get.

Is there a chance they still might come, keep it quiet and release a photo dump in instagram next Sunday to try to overshadow Catherine at Wimbledon? As in they’re aiming for the shock value/full control of the narrative/think they’re cleverer than everyone else.

A picture of the gravestone, with little hands next to the word "Diana".

What about the 2 endangered hen harriers he was interviewed by police about the shooting of in 2007 and the water buffalo in 2014.

Ok. First thing first.
“Bitter fish to fry” is now logged in my menopausal brain to use asap and get int9 my vocabulary-thanks @AnAutumnCrow .
In the Telegraph piece (posted earlier ) the line that struck me was the ‘longed for reunion’. Who is longing for it? I really really don’t think it’s the King.
I don’t think he has time or the emotional energy to give to the Harry debacle. I expect most time is spent rolling his eyes and thinking ‘for fucks sake’.
He is busy doing all the King/head of state malarky, being a husband, Duke of Lancaster stuff, seeing William , Catherine, the children, Camilla’s children & grandchildren, his extended family, friends, time reading/painting/gardening, travelling, cancer treatment etc.
He’s not sat around bemoaning the loss of Harry and Harry’s children who he does not know.
The King does not need Harry and the endless drama he brings with his incessant complaining. It’s like an endless version of King Lear being performed at the circus. “How sharper than a serpents tooth it is to have a thankless child”. I feel so sorry for the King.
Well done to everyone who called it right that Meg and the kids wouldn’t be coming. I’ll look forward to this thread tonight which I will read while I have LadyC or Kinsey chatting in the background, glass of wine & some kettle crisps!

Surely SURELY Charles Spencer wouldn’t allow that?
There’s never been any pictures (apart from the ones of the flowers put on the island) since that September day. I don’t think she’s there personally but that’s another story.

I think it would be CS's absolute nightmare. He'd likely ban photography. However, the Sussexes are so devious, they could probably manage it.