PR Disasters thread 20

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True. Although everyone has set backs - think how many were impacted by COVID.
However, most people keep working, keep trying, show resilience and determination in the face of obstacles.
Rather than just blame others.

And strategic people who wanted to carve out a new life for themselves would have taken the chance in covid to really think about what they wanted to do. The main problem the Sussexes have is that everything feels spur of the moment and often reactive.

Very true. They also had a lot of money and were very well known - two things that most people starting out don't have.
Wasted opportunities. I think it was generally a lack of ability, poor attitude and not taking the advice of others. Trashing the RF for money isn't a long term career move either.

She's a really talented performer but she's always given vibes that if she were chocolate, she'd eat herself!
She's certainly painted Edward in a very positive light!

That and the fact that unfortunately, they just aren't very likeable. They have zero "aura" as my dd would say. Its obvious now that harrys cheeky chappy persona was cooked up by the royal PR and it would have been better for him if no one got to look behind the curtain to see the bitter, spoilt manchild that he is. There's no putting that cat back in the bag. Also, despite the pr spin, most people had never heard of meghan before she dated harry, even in the US. She was a c-list actress at best

They had the world at their feet in the RF, with a lifestyle and opportunities most could only dream of, and threw it all away thinking they could be better than that. Utter delusion.

I love the bit about all Edward's underwear having name tags in. 😂
It actually paints a picture of life in Buckingham Palace - like a cross between a posh boarding school and a 3* hotel. All their rooms with name cards. Communal laundry, hence the name tags. Sending down for some sandwiches. The operator putting phone calls through - or not, depending on the time of day.
No wonder they all, sensibly don't want to live there, and William and Catherine at least choosing something a bit less grand, manageable without live in staff, just having them come in daily.

I do find it interesting that none of the other news channels picked up the security report story. They could see it wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

I agree, but I also think that reflects any real scrutiny of the nonsense the Sussexes perpetuate (and currently, it's Harry spearheading that). They actually get off very lightly when it comes to media scrutiny. Perhaps that also reflects their increasing irrelevance.

“Squandered” needs to be the title of their next book.

“Trashing the RF isnt a long term career move either”

Will reserve judgment on that. I wouldn’t be surprised of a pivot back to that (ever diminishing) revenue stream if KC3 doesn’t play ball. There will alway be some trashy outlet who will pay them.

Although IMHO MM is saving all the best bits for herself for her own post divorce extravaganza $$$$$$

Could be! It wouldn't surprise me at all. That well hasn't run dry.

If they'd any work ethic and talent, H&M could have set up a podcast in late March 2020 and started broadcasting immediately. Heck, they could have interviewed each other, their supposed 'friends' in LA, 'the guys back home', politicians and regular joes just trying to get through it. They could have built a very positive reputation as the good guys.

But no - they had bitter fish to fry.

That is, of course, what Harry was talking about when he advised parents not to put pictures of children online during his appearance on the Hasan Minhaj podcast.

Yes, they could have done well on that, it would have been a good opportunity. However, they obviously thought lying about the racism and the children's titles would be more lucrative.

Good advice, then and now. It’s a shame his wife can’t seem to get on board.

I wonder if someone somewhere has decided it's finally time to put a stop to the caricature of a weak king who will do whatever his son wants?

Re your other comment: I do find it interesting that none of the other news channels picked up the security report story. They could see it wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

I wonder how they decide which Sussex stories to run. I'm thinking specifically of the Australian lifeguard who was slapped by Harry while doing his job. Not a conspiracy theory, plenty of video evidence. What makes them run with the sunbather story, and totally ignore that one?

Bitter fish! So apposite .

It was the same with the " they are coming to the Uk" story as announced by People. No one ran with that initially . The media for the most part see Harry as the manipulator he tries to be.

Yes, totally agree with that.

The reality is that neither is very interesting or has any special talent. Their USP was being royal, and what a USP that was! Take away the mystique of royalty and you've got two shallow, self absorbed individuals with nothing much to offer in the overcrowded celeb world.

Could they have played their cards better? Absolutely. If they'd listened to the advice of skilled experts rather than publicly venting their anger at Harry's family and the 'British media' they could perhaps have built up some sort of 'brand'. But they were never going to be billionaires or A listers outside the royal family. They simply don't have what it takes.

If Covid hadn't happened, the HAM lack of actual talent would have emerged even sooner. I think the global disruption actually served them by obscuring how little they had to offer.

Absolutely this. Not only is Charles elderly and still being treated for cancer, but he's the actual Head of State, the monarch. He has work to do, engagements to attend, and he can't just drop everything at the last minute to indulge his Idiot Son. It is a tricky time too, as the poor King is about to have yet another new Prime Minister.

Does Harry honestly think the King is just hanging about doing a bit of gardening, whilst waiting for the Sussexes to design to grace him with their presence?

Oh yes, remember all the pics of Diana and Charles with Jimmy Saville!

Can't work out if that "bitter" fish is a typo or not, AnAutumnCrow but either way you're right that the above really could have worked if only they hadn't thought themselves fitted for better things

As for the ever changing bilge from the media about Charles's latest thoughts, can't they just give it a rest and report on what actually happens this week? I realise the need for clicks, but it really is getting a bit silly now

What an absolute shit show. I really hope Tuesday doesn't go his way or we'll have some deranged, word salad speech about slaying dragons.

They have both hit rock bottom. There'll be instagram updates on tea with the king etc then an interview about how wonderful it was blah blah. There's now low they won't go to

Absolutely and any other dodgy sleb whos illegal behaviours have come out of the woodwork since - many of them.