Is Harry and his family coming to the UK or not

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Nobody seems to know for sure. Why should we care. Maybe he doesn't even know himself yet. He can't seem to do anything without attracting lots of press articles.

Duly noted! 🫡

I’d take @jeffgoldblum advice @BigWillyLittleTodger and ignore
in a ‘flattered but not interested’ kind of way😊

Double duly noted 🫡🫡

So are Meghan and kids coming or not. Or haven't they decided yet.

I believe, according to the most recent article, not!
she’s apparently furious about the rf treatment of Harry and doesn’t want anything to do with them again ( apart from keeping her titles and those of her children!)

I've never seen such a dithering and fuss and will they won't they about a visit. I bet most of the royals will be pleased if they don't come.

@jeffgoldblum We haven’t forgotten about your hat.

It’s accidentally been nibbled on purpose!! ( did you really think I could resist that much cheese ?)

They have to make a fuss though. It's what gives them the headlines.

I haven't read through this full thread but I'm amazed on others that on the issue of security that some people keep banging on how unfair it is for Harry and Meghan yet see absolutely nothing unjust, corrupt or undemocratic about an unelected head of state meddling in matters of national security or that rich people can simply just buy police officers for hire.

Harry keeps saying that he can't bring his family because it's not safe. Then leaks a statement complaining his security team don't have access to intelligence. However the body that does have access to intelligence have decided what the proportionate risk is and provided the adequate level of security accordingly. But this still isn't good enough for Harry. What other evidence does he have that he think he should still get enhanced security? His own paranoia and feelings have already been found in a court of law as not evidence enough. Surely he should take reflection of this?

It's a shame in one way as I think the Invictus games is a very worthwhile endeavour and something that would have stood as a good legacy for Harry. And the charities he reportedly supports too are worthwhile causes. But all this leaking of stories and will we/won't we/we might be stories and flip flopping have just completely distracted from these worthwhile causes and it's him and his team that have done this. Inflating his own ego and self of sense of importance at the expense of people who use these charities is appalling.

Er … No. Absolutely not.

Fake republicans on here might be paid to support HaM, or they may be oddball stans. Actual longstanding mild-mannered republicans like me who are resident in the UK think that Harry Mountbatten-Windsor behaves in a loathsome manner.

I would love to see the pro-monarchy nasty git H lose all his titles, styles and honours.

He has actually made the king, queen and the Waleses look good, and the Middletons too. In fact you might say in true tudor fashion the Middleton family is in the ascendant over the Sussexes. All H’s work. His PR guy McGuire must be truly terrible at his job, if real republicans are warming to Charles and William.

So fear not It’s all good.

Yes, good points. The photos from Kate's 3 Peaks Challenge, particularly those warm and happy family ones, couldn't be more of a contrast to the Sussexes life.

“Be more KC3”

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If the extended family are anything like normal people I think their hearts will be aching for the children right now.

That leak to People about the children being excited was a window in HAMs parenting. I hope it’s not true and that it was just leaked to “pull at heart strings”.

Leaking info about the children is bad enough but if they amped the kids up to meet family and see Harry’s home country without a solid travel plan only to let them down that’s just crap.

If the extended family are anything like normal people I think their hearts will be aching for the children right now.

Honestly, it's not like they know the children. They are complete strangers to them. Which isn't to say they don't care about them, but it must be in an abstract sort of way. They don't know the children as individuals.

I now think the plan all along was for Harry to come alone. Talking about Meghan and the kids was just a way to drum up headlines and add some emotional weight, as they see it. As well, of course, to try to arm twist Charles into upping their security, something which isn't in his power anyway. Just terrible behaviour from terrible people.

The trouble we get into on online forums 🙄 It was not my intention to cause a spat. Surely the key point in the context of this thread is that no-one thinks that Archie and Lili going to see Diana's grave is a good idea.

I think a lot of people expected that all along.

I have thought from the very beginning that the plan was always for H to come alone.

I went back and forth a bit because I thought this time Meghan might just be that desperate. But in retrospect it was obvious all along.

Well me , you and most of us found your post fairly clear ! 🤷‍♀️

I think that was Meghan’s plan and Harry was not aware of it.

If Harry was my husband I’d have been on a plane with the children already and arranged a holiday on an estate somewhere very private.

He’s getting hit on all sides, rightly or not. Meghan should be supporting him, not leaking and briefing to the press.

'Fairly clear' is not good enough. Let me be crystal clear. Like Sir Keir Starmer, I need to be crystal clear.

Anyhow, it's Thursday. H is busy tomorrow. How is he going to cram in a visit to pa, and a visit to Uncle Charles when M is saying she's done with the Royal family, the children are under her control and their decision-making skills are rubbish?

🤣 , I think the only answer is that I don’t know! , whats more ! , I don’t think Harry does either! 🤷‍♀️