Is Harry and his family coming to the UK or not

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Nobody seems to know for sure. Why should we care. Maybe he doesn't even know himself yet. He can't seem to do anything without attracting lots of press articles.

The Home Office do not publicize their risk assessments. Harry complained this week that the RAVEC assessment has not been done so I am unsure which one you are talking about - have you a source?

The only risk assessment I have been aware of is the one commissioned by Harry, paid for by Harry and written by Harry's own private security company.

No sway you say ?

Why have 3 representatives then ?

The queen did write to RAVEC a matter of months before she died

Who knows why . I have no respect for Andrew enablers but she did know how to play the public and how to achieve good PR .

The current lot haven’t a clue .

And her letter asking for special consideration for security for Harry held no sway.
RAVEC are a serious organisation. They keep people safe. That is their job. It's public money, so as much as Harry thinks it's unlimited, it can't be squandered.
This isn't about his security. It's about his status. That's not how RAVEC operate. Fortunately.

This ⬆️.
His personal publicity has been in overdrive because he's not getting what he thinks is his due as a Royal Prince.

Indeed.

Which is why I find it odd that supposed 'republicans' are so exercised over an exiled Prince not being afforded special privileges at taxpayer expense.

They're not republicans! No way! They're Sussex fans who are supporters of Royalty like H&M, unearned, entitled, arrogant and demanding. Not living in the UK, but wanting support from UK taxpayers.
Meghan has a coronet on her personal notepaper. That's proper high level royal.

Well apparently Megs and kids aren't coming. Why should we pay to keep them safe? They are now private citizens they should pay for it themselves.

@OlympicWomen

Rubbish
How childish .

The fact is Harry’s actions have exposed the institution to be corrupt , divided , dysfunctional.

Exactly as republicans have described it .

No. So called "republicans" are supporting a dishonest, publicity seeking and status mad, mendacious duo who insist their children are Prince and Princess.
Supporting the ultimate in entitlement - Harry - isn't a way to further the republican cause.
Daring to criticise Harry is.
Yes. Harry is childish!

Maybe if you could link that 'Home Office security assessment' you spoke of your case would be a bit clearer?

The home office assessment found that Harry did face increased risk and that there were 6 terrorist plots against him (. This is from memory of a newspaper article )

Sounds like you are confused, that wasn’t a Home office assessment, it was from Harry’s paid security team, who Harry paid big bucks to write up that report, while at the same time Harry is complaining they are not privy to any real security Intelligence information 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️, so it’s a bit of a mystery how they came up with the report, I guess that’s why they were happy enough to release a made-up security report to their WhatsApp group of tabloid journalists, wasn’t going to cause my realtime danger to their principle, they just hoped realeasing it would put pressure on others, which appears to have backfired pretty spectacularly.

Might also point out, to make your post clearer, that “the Windsors” do not organise the carriage driving event and were not responsible for the flag.

And this is exactly the same problem with Harry.
He is unable to separate his distorted emotion based views from reality.

He still insists his mum was basically murdered despite all evidence to the contrary.

This fuels his paranoia and eternal grievance.

Combine with his sense of entitlement as a very rich and cosseted son of the monarch, his highly histrionic personality with limited intellectual ability, add in a a ruthlessly ambitious wife who sees profit in drama and the ability to have complete control over a rich man child by encouraging him to blame and ditch his family and we arrive at the current scenario.

The '6 terrorist plots' that @Ukisgaslit mentions comes from Chris Ship's reports on the report from Harry's private security firm not the HO.Am not sure what sub committee the poster is referring to in their post of 09:46 - RAVEC is the committee. They seek risk assessments from the RMB (risk management board) but as we saw in the JR, RAVEC deviated from this procedure in respect of PH once he announced he was orrff. As we also saw from the JR, it was deemed entirely lawful to have made this change.

My post upthread suggests how the report might have been compiled given that private security firms do not have access to intelligrnce. Summary: it's all smoke and mirrors.

Ok let’s look at what is not ‘smoke and mirrors’

Andrew was forced to stand down in 2019 ( 12 years after Epstein first conviction and after at least 12 years of Windsor cover up and lies )

RAVEC reviewed Andrew’s security immediately and granted him full security.
Andrew was not a working royal. He was disgraced .
He got full security until 2022 and it was removed once the public became aware .

Harry did not have his supposed review at all and his security was promptly removed in 2020 .
And by promptly I mean he left with his family in Jan 2020 and his security was removed in Feb 2020

The Windsors protected Andrew . Windsor supporters continually repeat the tabloid line trying to link Andrew and Harry .

I have no time for any of them but I see a man who left and who didn’t nothing wrong.

I see another man with decades of links to pedophiles and sex traffickers - he was protected until the public found out .

But you don't know what RAVEC did or did not 'grant' Andrew. They don't make their decisions public. And, contrary to your claim above, they also don't make the basis for their decisions public. If Andrew did get police protection, there could have been a serious threat to his life. We just don't know. Nor should we.

Also, Harry's security was not 'removed'. He removed himself and his family from their security. Nobody forced him to become a private citizen on the other side of the world. That was entirely his choice.

Oh, and do you have the link to the 'Home Office security assessment' you mentioned above?

Apples and oranges. Harry left UK. Had he stayed domiciled it might be a comparable situation.

I hope you are not representative of the rest of the gang.

I rarely report but I’m reporting you .
Disgusting post .

I thought Charles was paying for Andrew’s security for a long time and HMQE before that.

Not representative of my thoughts but I’m wondering what there is to report that we don’t see in many other posts? Someone call one royal a parasite, did you see that one?

Read the post again . It should be obvious

You do that lovely

You're arguing with a pigeon.