Is Harry and his family coming to the UK or not

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Nobody seems to know for sure. Why should we care. Maybe he doesn't even know himself yet. He can't seem to do anything without attracting lots of press articles.

Tone doesn't come across in writing! It's Harry saying 'I'm a king's son and the rules don't apply to me'.

That's definitely it. That's why when they moved away, they thought they wouldn't have security bills because of his status.

Completely agree with this, you beat me to it. 😁. The economic benefit was huge. Plus the specific threat came days before the concert with tickets sold, travel and hotels booked.

Also we Don’t generally give in to terrorist type threats. Stuff goes ahead even when there’s a potential threat with the correct level of policing that’s been deemed necessary for that event.

Police are present at parades, Xmas markets, various events……we don’t as a country just say nah that event can’t happen.

I bet they don't come at all.

He's such a twit he probably told her that and she just believed him. IIRC she says in the Oprah interview 'He (Archie) wouldn't have security', implying it was because he was mixed race. As so often with this dreadful couple, they hear what suits them, not what is said. Here, a courtier may have said: 'If you decide not to be working royals, none of your family, including Archie, will be given security'. That would also explain the desire to be half in, half out.

I think he will come alone, and that that was always the plan.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/prince-harry-to-travel-to-london-without-meghan-markle-prince-archie-and-princess-lilibet/news-story/3db431a29b79742473ceac23fa46ba65

Of course. However, they'll make a meal of it forever.

Sadly true. Such disregard for KCIII.

How would a baby have his own security detail?

Were specialist RPOs to be assigned to stand guard next to his crib or what?

Just speculating, but I imagine that if they'd stopped being working royals but stayed living in Britain, they'd have continued to receive security at least for some time. But it was always subject to change, as it had for others in Harry's family. The York sisters were, like Harry's children, grandchildren of the monarch with a similar position in the LoS when they had their security removed. As someone said above, being a grandchild of the monarch just isn't that big a deal.

No-one but you has suggested that William had anything to do with the decision to grant Taylor security.

That wasn't my intention. It was meant more as an observation on how W's PR has him buddying up with popular figures but I can see how my post is open to such an interpretation.

After all. It's not like W had to angle for free tickets...

Do babies have security in Hollywood? If they do, that may explain Meghan's comment. Archie is a very unfortunate child. Not only did he not have his own team of Royal protection officers but he was forced to sleep in sub-standard accommodation in South Africa, remember, and a radiator set on fire in his room. Then he was left all by himself in the smouldering embers of the South Africa slum because his parents were forced by the cruel courtiers to carry on with their engagements.

I agree only Harry will come. But I dont think Meghan and the kids will come at all. Not sure if that was always the plan. But if Charles is in Balmoral was he going to come to London. I dont think any of them would be going to Balmoral. I bet everyone is sick of him already and he's not even here yet.

apparently Taylor swift had threats made against her that the MET took seriously. they werent different every week like harrys they were thought to be genuine.

None of us can be sure of anything, except that it's a big mess.

I think Harry's long game is still looking to be classed as an IPP which will never happen. It's estimated that Harry spends at least 3m
a year on his personal security which quickly adds up over the years ie 30m in the next ten years , given his most lucrative sources of income have dried up now and he's still a relatively young man, he needs to find a way to fund that for the rest of his life which while he a wealthy man , he's not that wealthy that 30m won't sting. ( and that's just security not other staff )

Maybe it was always MM’s plan - but PH didn’t (still hasn’t realised that) - and she whipped him up re the security stuff - but she knew all along that the security wasn’t happening and she and her DCs were never coming ….. unless the flashing lights, motorcade, outrider, armed guards screeching around London with full NF film shoot with KC3 was approved!!!

Of course if he had any sense (and we all know that he does not) he would move into a more modest home which is easier, and cheaper, to secure. He could accept that he's simply not that big a target and that his profile is only going to reduce in the years to come. Therefore, he doesn't need sophisticated head of state level security. Which is surely a good thing, as it means he and his family can be safe without the need for excessive spending and restrictive precautions.

At least, most people would see it as a good thing. But Harry and his wife are very strange people.

This is the housing unit 'slum' that didn't meet the Duchess' standards.

Complete dump huh?

Oh don’t!! I’m reminded of the hilarious attempts to defend that comment!
im sure they went along the lines of ……housing unit is not an insult in America……part of Meghans culture….etc …..etc …..

Yes I remember that.

Speaking of Meghan's 'culture' (or lack thereof) I wouldn't be surprised if she genuinely considered an elegant, historic home like the High Commissioner's residence to be beneath her lofty standards. Her tastes seem very tacky and basic.

I believe she shares similar tastes to trump on that score!
bigly is better afterall!

It is apparently what they asked for when they left Archie in Canada (allegedly at Jessica Mulroney's) at the time they "found freedom" - Harry went back to the UK for the Sandringham Summit while Meghan flew on to LA to finalise media deals - so they were in 3 different countries and wanted 3 separate security details.

The Jessica Mulroney thing is surely made up. She lives in Toronto which is further from Vancouver than London is from Istanbul. She also has 3 children of her own. Archie was left with a nanny.

And not to be judgey, but who leaves an 8 month old several hours' flight away without a very good reason?

It's a hovel.