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William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs

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SpaEnjoyer · 25/06/2026 16:24

I read this article in the DM which was originally brought to my attention by my MIL, who has a very keen interest in goings-on involving the RF.

'His absences have not gone unnoticed': Norman Baker asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up https://mol.im/a/15908021

I must admit I was surprised to learn that William has attended fewer events than KC and Anne over the last 3 years. I agree with the sentiment that he needs to step up to ease the burden on his father.

NORMAN BAKER asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up

He might be a present husband and father, but when it comes to carrying out royal duties, the Prince of Wales is 'workshy', a royal expert has claimed.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-15908021/His-absences-not-gone-unnoticed-NORMAN-BAKER-asks-workshy-William-going-step-reveals-number-engagements-carried-far-year-future-King.html

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Recklessismymiddlename · 28/06/2026 20:01

BrandiedAromatics · 28/06/2026 19:14

@simpsonthecat I haven't read Entitled but my understanding is that Lownie is a royalist. Which is the point I was making earlier today. To cover up the truth about Andrew and Fergie was in no way helping the monarchy.

I have downloaded to kindle but not read it yet. I will get round to it. But also have downloaded as audiobook on Spotify so one or another will get round to it.

jeffgoldblum · 28/06/2026 20:08

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 28/06/2026 18:56

Let me make something clear here. We post absurd remarks because these people (Graham Smith, Norma Baker) come across as absurd and there is often no way to intelligently respond to the pretzel logic being posted here.

We grow weary. Posters here know damn well that the court circular is a very limited snapshot of just some of the work that working Royals attend to. Just as anyone who we’ve read a job knows that the real work isn’t happening just in meetings.

Posters here are also intelligent enough to understand that you don’t ask your dog how many times they should be fed a day and you don’t ask a professional protestor to weigh in on their favorite topic and get a thoughtful response.

We are also quite accustomed to fielding endless personal attacks on ourselves. It’s fine. We’re fine. But you can’t expect us to stay serious when the discussion gets so … downright ridiculous!

I think you are being a tad hasty here!
im very grateful that posters have arrived to so robustly divert attention away from scruffy, unkempt William and poor apparently made up cancer Catherine!
the comments were getting quite personal and unkind!
so for that I applaud them .

simpsonthecat · 28/06/2026 20:11

JeffG, no regulars on the Royal boards have said that William is scruffy or cancer is made up for Kate.
Maybe address the individual posters who said that, they were just one or two

jeffgoldblum · 28/06/2026 20:14

simpsonthecat · 28/06/2026 20:11

JeffG, no regulars on the Royal boards have said that William is scruffy or cancer is made up for Kate.
Maybe address the individual posters who said that, they were just one or two

No of course not! I was just grateful that posters have arrived and completely diverted the conversation away from the original one.
of course that might not have been the actual intention!
and if you look I did in fact challenge both comments at the source!!

corblimeygvnr · 28/06/2026 20:15

simpsonthecat · 28/06/2026 20:11

JeffG, no regulars on the Royal boards have said that William is scruffy or cancer is made up for Kate.
Maybe address the individual posters who said that, they were just one or two

These things have been said. How do you know they are not regulars ? Could be name changers? One regular poster has chosen her words carefully on Catherine's cancer and has refused to elaborate on those words.

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 20:19

simpsonthecat · 28/06/2026 19:29

You obviously missed GoodReads and Audible reviews. And where is it fact that 'fans' buy the book (fans of who?)
If you mean fans of Norman Baker, how come then that 'Spare' got rubbish reviews, were they 'fans' of Harry who then didn't like the book? 😂

I saw someone on the beach the other day reading it, or was it Entitled... can't remember.

Can I add Graham Smith's 'Abolish The Monarchy Why we Should and How we will' to the list of well reviewed books on several platforms?

He makes some pretty solid arguments despite apparently batting for team lemon.

jeffgoldblum · 28/06/2026 20:22

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 20:19

Can I add Graham Smith's 'Abolish The Monarchy Why we Should and How we will' to the list of well reviewed books on several platforms?

He makes some pretty solid arguments despite apparently batting for team lemon.

I prefer Stephen king myself, more than enough horror and his books are highly reviewed.😁

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 20:25

it's fans that buy them.

I've seen one royalist just today just on this thread who's read them.

Personally I read a lot of royal books on both sides of the argument.

It's currently Robert Hardman's biography of E2 which is so far pretty nauseating in its sycophancy but I'll persevere 😀

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 20:27

jeffgoldblum · 28/06/2026 20:22

I prefer Stephen king myself, more than enough horror and his books are highly reviewed.😁

I'm very fond of good King Steve myself

Now there's a thought 😂

jeffgoldblum · 28/06/2026 20:31

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 20:27

I'm very fond of good King Steve myself

Now there's a thought 😂

On that I think we are certainly on the same page!!🤣

Recklessismymiddlename · 28/06/2026 20:32

Lownie’s Traitor King was a fab read - Edward viii.

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 21:15

This article seems quite pertinent to this thread:

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/royal-family-attending-half-the-events-it-used-to-as-state-funding-triples

Basically less 'working' albeit exacerbated by the illness, scandal enforced dropout and flouncing we'd already spotted but ever increasing troughing.

APlateOfMixedFanciesAndANicePotOfTea · 28/06/2026 21:50

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 21:15

This article seems quite pertinent to this thread:

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/royal-family-attending-half-the-events-it-used-to-as-state-funding-triples

Basically less 'working' albeit exacerbated by the illness, scandal enforced dropout and flouncing we'd already spotted but ever increasing troughing.

But...as many people have pointed out, there's a world of difference between nipping down the road and cutting a ribbon, and a foreign trip with full on head of state meetings/Royal meet and greet and dinners. Yet both apparently score 1 on the 'attending events' scale which appears to be THE benchmark of how hard a person works.

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 28/06/2026 22:36

@APlateOfMixedFanciesAndANicePotOfTea Yes, ad nauseum. It will be ignored because it doesn’t forward the narrative.

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/06/2026 07:43

simpsonthecat · 28/06/2026 20:11

JeffG, no regulars on the Royal boards have said that William is scruffy or cancer is made up for Kate.
Maybe address the individual posters who said that, they were just one or two

I don't know if people who are regular now said things about Catherine's cancer because there was a lot of name changing after she announced she had cancer. But I do know that regular names, some of whom I'd previously had a lot of respect for even when I didn't agree with them, did join in with the rumour and lies that invaded social media following Catherine's announcement of her abdominal surgery and her break from Royal duties.

As I said, it's impossible to tell if the people who were accusing Catherine and William of a number of things I'm not going to repeat, as I believe the threads are still there, are still regulars here. But I can say that many of those who encouraged and spread lies were regulars then.

Windsandstars · 29/06/2026 13:26

MrsLeonFarrell · 29/06/2026 07:43

I don't know if people who are regular now said things about Catherine's cancer because there was a lot of name changing after she announced she had cancer. But I do know that regular names, some of whom I'd previously had a lot of respect for even when I didn't agree with them, did join in with the rumour and lies that invaded social media following Catherine's announcement of her abdominal surgery and her break from Royal duties.

As I said, it's impossible to tell if the people who were accusing Catherine and William of a number of things I'm not going to repeat, as I believe the threads are still there, are still regulars here. But I can say that many of those who encouraged and spread lies were regulars then.

Seeing that such doubts exist, that's because the institution has failed to maintain transparency. The initial "not cancer" statement followed by a vague diagnosis was a PR disaster that involved Photoshop, silence that fueled public mistrust. When you combine that with a pattern of minimal work, the remission defense only works for so long before it looks like a shield for a lack of duty and to try to attack people who dare ask questions. The world doesn't work like that, she had cancer but so most people who need to work while in treatment and specially life is back to normal, with some adjustments, once in remission. And while she has every right to privacy, the public is naturally going to be skeptical when a clear diagnosis is withheld, especially given the existing perception that she has always been workshy.

Let’s be honest: if Meghan exhibited the same behaviour and work ethic, the same group shielding Catherine would be in an uproar (and with reason). It’s hypocritical to ignore the Palace's role in creating this suspicion, especially when the institution is simultaneously embroiled in scandals involving Andrew and the royals documented ties to illicit financial and criminal figures, just to point a few issues. Their credibility is at rock bottom.

bluegreygreen · 29/06/2026 13:42

Seeing that such doubts exist, that's because the institution has failed to maintain transparency.

Kensington Palace announced on 17th January 2024 that the Princess of Wales had gone in for planned surgery the day before; that she was expected to say in hospital 10-14 days; that she was not expected to take part in public engagements until after Easter. They also said she wanted to maintain as much normality for the children as possible, and asked for privacy.

On 23rd March (so just before Easter, i.e. within the time period mentioned initially) she made her personal statement saying that cancer had been found in tests after the operation, that she was having chemotherapy, and that they had taken time to break the news to the children in the most appropriate way.

Kensington Palace statement

Nothing complicated; no silence; no lack of transparency. The doubts are only in the minds of those who prefer to twist perfectly straightforward statements.

noonames · 29/06/2026 13:43

Windsandstars · 29/06/2026 13:26

Seeing that such doubts exist, that's because the institution has failed to maintain transparency. The initial "not cancer" statement followed by a vague diagnosis was a PR disaster that involved Photoshop, silence that fueled public mistrust. When you combine that with a pattern of minimal work, the remission defense only works for so long before it looks like a shield for a lack of duty and to try to attack people who dare ask questions. The world doesn't work like that, she had cancer but so most people who need to work while in treatment and specially life is back to normal, with some adjustments, once in remission. And while she has every right to privacy, the public is naturally going to be skeptical when a clear diagnosis is withheld, especially given the existing perception that she has always been workshy.

Let’s be honest: if Meghan exhibited the same behaviour and work ethic, the same group shielding Catherine would be in an uproar (and with reason). It’s hypocritical to ignore the Palace's role in creating this suspicion, especially when the institution is simultaneously embroiled in scandals involving Andrew and the royals documented ties to illicit financial and criminal figures, just to point a few issues. Their credibility is at rock bottom.

Christ what must it be like to live in your head.

The initial not cancer statement: you mean, before it was diagnosed? She should have announced she had cancer before she knew she had it?

The vague diagnosis: she said she had cancer, that seems pretty clear? Or is she not permitted to say she has cancer without telling you where? What about KC3, should he have disclosed where he has cancer too?

IAmATorturedPoet · 29/06/2026 13:48

CathyorClaire · 28/06/2026 20:25

it's fans that buy them.

I've seen one royalist just today just on this thread who's read them.

Personally I read a lot of royal books on both sides of the argument.

It's currently Robert Hardman's biography of E2 which is so far pretty nauseating in its sycophancy but I'll persevere 😀

It's currently Robert Hardman's biography of E2 which is so far pretty nauseating in its sycophancy but I'll persevere 😀

Taking one for team 🍋😄 Cathy.

jeffgoldblum · 29/06/2026 13:50

simpsonthecat · 28/06/2026 20:11

JeffG, no regulars on the Royal boards have said that William is scruffy or cancer is made up for Kate.
Maybe address the individual posters who said that, they were just one or two

I’m assuming you are not claiming @Windsandstarsas a regular.

IAmATorturedPoet · 29/06/2026 13:50

@noonames I really wouldn’t bother.

noonames · 29/06/2026 13:52

IAmATorturedPoet · 29/06/2026 13:50

@noonames I really wouldn’t bother.

I know, you’re right 🫤

Always nice to think that inaccuracies are ignorance rather than deceit but not always the case.

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 29/06/2026 14:01

Windsandstars · 29/06/2026 13:26

Seeing that such doubts exist, that's because the institution has failed to maintain transparency. The initial "not cancer" statement followed by a vague diagnosis was a PR disaster that involved Photoshop, silence that fueled public mistrust. When you combine that with a pattern of minimal work, the remission defense only works for so long before it looks like a shield for a lack of duty and to try to attack people who dare ask questions. The world doesn't work like that, she had cancer but so most people who need to work while in treatment and specially life is back to normal, with some adjustments, once in remission. And while she has every right to privacy, the public is naturally going to be skeptical when a clear diagnosis is withheld, especially given the existing perception that she has always been workshy.

Let’s be honest: if Meghan exhibited the same behaviour and work ethic, the same group shielding Catherine would be in an uproar (and with reason). It’s hypocritical to ignore the Palace's role in creating this suspicion, especially when the institution is simultaneously embroiled in scandals involving Andrew and the royals documented ties to illicit financial and criminal figures, just to point a few issues. Their credibility is at rock bottom.

Why are you bringing Meghan into this?

jeffgoldblum · 29/06/2026 14:05

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 29/06/2026 14:01

Why are you bringing Meghan into this?

Don’t take the bait! , it seems to be a thing lately, no doubt to provoke a response.

Windsandstars · 29/06/2026 14:06

noonames · 29/06/2026 13:43

Christ what must it be like to live in your head.

The initial not cancer statement: you mean, before it was diagnosed? She should have announced she had cancer before she knew she had it?

The vague diagnosis: she said she had cancer, that seems pretty clear? Or is she not permitted to say she has cancer without telling you where? What about KC3, should he have disclosed where he has cancer too?

I knew people like you would twist things and go to personal attacks, not even surprised, that doesn't help your case.

You're missing the point. The criticism isn't that they aren't permitted to keep medical details private. The point is that they are currently struggling to balance historical secrecy with the demands of 24/7 modern media scrutiny. By being vague and then oscillating between silence and fake information and attacking common people like Virginia, they inadvertently fuel the very speculation they complain about. It’s not about needing to know the specific type of cancer, about the fact that the institution historically struggled to provide clear information and gv contradictory info, which creates a trust deficit that isn't just in their heads—it's a documented communications . Will you fail.to understand again and go to personal attacks again?