Prince Harry & Meghan kids

[Jennalong]

There is a photo of Harry with his children with reference to Fathers Day . It shows him cuddling his children , with the girl's face partially shown but the son is turned fully into Harry and you only see the back of his head.
In most photos that they post this is always the case .
Why do they do this ?

They also have a track record, talent, a work ethic, dignity, integrity, discretion - and also probably a satisfied sense of ‘enough’ which seem to be attributes lacking in H&M.

Very true. I just can't fathom what went so wrong for H&M, they had so much. Titles, wealth, privilege, opportunities beyond the dreams of most of us.

Oh come on. George clooney is just a Hollywood actor.

Involved in some good political campaigns and philanthropy though.
Genuine philanthropy, not just grandstanding.

Sure. If you care that much to go looking for all that.

What I'm failing to understand is why anyone would go to all that effort to follow what they do then claim they are embarrassing themselves/behaving terribly/have had their brand entirely collapse etc when if you didn't go looking for it all they would just stay entirely irrelevant.

It's the intensity of following their lives and thereby giving them significance then claiming they are insignificant that I find just a bit odd.

What do you mean, exactly?
You concede that this stuff happened, but if nobody “went looking” for it we could all pretend it didn’t?
As arguments go, this is strangest I’ve seen yet.

Essentially yes. Because anything they do only matters if you think they are important people.

No one has to go looking for anything - it’s what they pump out directly via their own PR machine.

It’s what they want you to read and know. All from the horses mouth.

I am entertained by how earnest and self righteous they are, believing they have something to say that is unique and inspiring whilst everyone can see through their delusional and grandiose grifting and just laughs at them. It’s a guilty pleasure - rolling news of cringe from The Ratner Royals - they never fail to disappoint.

You must have to go looking or be signed up to certain ways of accessing social media etc to a degree. I don't think I've ever seen anything directly from them. A few pictures of the family that are reposted by various people on Facebook so they appear as posts to me and I've been vaguely aware of trips they've made via the same route. If I wasn't on Facebook or MN I'm not sure I'd hear their names more than about once a year.

Fair enough if you find them that amusing though.

Wasn't it you who said they'd watched the NF series? They were interviewed extensively for that, so presumably it counts as directly from them? Apologies if I'm mixing you up with someone else, too hot to check 😎

Yes. Although, it's getting harder to defend them, it is often a reach.

I don't see it that H&M are 'using their children' as much as keeping them current, in the public eye (albeit a rear view), in order to eventually slip them into the RF as active members. Reflected glory. The Clooney's children will presumably find a career path in a different direction so have no need to be dangled as such.

Even more bizarre 😬

I did watch that but it was a few years ago wasn't it? Maybe it was more recent than that. Still the last thing I've seen directly from them. And clearly I did have to go seeking that out.

Anyone who is interested in celebrity culture or the British royal family, will be inundated with Sussex PR. We don’t have to go look for it at all.

On the other hand, there are those who claim no interest and then go looking for it and choose to criticise those who are interested ………now that’s weird.

It’s the same with any interest, be it F1, cricket, tennis, current affairs, fashion, madkeup, if that’s your interest you don’t have to go ‘searching’ for it.

There is a difference between important people and fame hungry people, I think they started out as the first but now are the latter.
Someone previously mentioned Katie Price as an analogy which I will use to expand my thoughts. Katie was a pretty girl with a good figure who used her ambition and drive to make it big in the glamour industry when that was a thing. She even dated Ralf Schumacher at one point. But that time has gone and her life is now very different as the UK residents amongst us probably know whether we are on social media or not.
I don’t think H&M could ever fall to depths that Katie has at times (the song common people comes to mind at this point) but they are lacking respect from the public they seem to be viewed with suspicion by their peers and are estranged from their families. The time that they were the popular young couple had long gone. I wouldn’t open the curtains if they were in my garden, in fact I’d turn out all the lights and lock all the doors.

A bit odd to criticise people who may or may not have watched the NF series for being overinvested, when you have watched it tho?

Harry and Meghan are very active in promoting themselves on multiple platforms and have been for several years, whether that's interviews, audio or video content, his book, the multiple proclamations from the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, or all the stories in their favoured outlets from 'sources close to'. They want to be front and centre of British and American cultural life, because otherwise Meghan's business and Harry's idea of himself as a global statesman both fall apart. If anyone really thinks that they are just private people getting on with their lives with a bit of incidental social media, that's very naive I think. They are ultimately irrelevant, despite their claims to the contrary, and will become more so as Harry falls further down the line of succession. But they certainly don't think so and seem to spend a lot of time and energy trying to prove otherwise.

The Sussex children have no need to be "dangled".
They deserve privacy.
You'd think, after everything they've said, and everything Harry has moaned about, they wouldn't "dangle" them at all.
They'd give them a private childhood.

If they want them active in the RF in the future, then they need to be kept relevant. I didn't say I agreed with it.

How on earth are they going to be part of the working RF in the future?
I really worry about H&Ms mental health if they actually think that's the remotest possibility.

I agree.

But why would they want them active in the royal family. Surely they would want better for them then to make the same mistake they made in joining an institution that trapped them, took her passport away from her didn’t support her with her mental health needs and threw them as a sacrifice to the press to save the reputations of senior family members.

Why on earth would either of them want that life for their kids? Harry hated it and compared it to living in a zoo. Meghan has nothing but utter contempt for 'the Institution' as she has made abundantly clear . The only conclusion is that they don't hate it half as much as they claim. It's just that they are suddenly seeing all the financial benefits . That's it. How utterly crass of them to want to make their children circus monkeys so the whole family can gain financially from a system they 'found freedom' from. They are utterly enslaved to their joint desire for fame and riches at any price.

It was, according to them, such a toxic institution that they had to flee. Taking a "freedom flight" even.

I haven't criticised anyone. I just don't get why people know so much about their movements and output without caring enough to find it out. And if they dislike them so much why they make that effort.

But I don't need to understand it. It was just a discussion. The Netflix thing was diverting and mainly entertaining while it lasted which is the only impression it made on me.