PR disasters Thread 17

[Mylovelygreendress]

Can’t see a new thread so thought I would start a new one to continue discussing the grifters

The royals never comment on private family visits. Why would they set a precent of making public statements every time one family member visits another?

Absolutely! They are utterly shameless.

That's not how it works.

Which family members is he planning on introducing them to? I really don’t think anybody will want to see them

Its never the fault of the children in a family break up and I would sincerely hope there are big enough adults within the family who would say ‘we have to find a way to facilitate all of the children meeting their cousins’. I think it’s something Princess Anne could put on - a tea party with her as the hostess at Gatcombe along with Nannie’s in attendance instead of the adults in the family.

What's the point in a single meeting between jet lagged children and another group of children who are strangers to them? Two of whom are much older than them?

If Harry wants his children to have a relationship with his cousins then he's going to have to start the steeply uphill task of rebuilding trust with the children's parents. It's not up to random extended family members to take responsibility for this.

Why on earth is it up to Princess Anne?! She's a busy woman. Why would she host a tea party for two children she doesn't know and whose parents have spent the last 6 years trashing her family for money?
What a bizarre suggestion.

Absolutely!
Why on earth Harry gets a pass on his appalling behaviour I have no idea.

Exactly. It reeks of desperation.

Cousins don’t have to have any relationship at all, many people have cousins who they never hear from or see from one year to the next, and that’s without any family fallouts, it’s just the way it is, it’s totally ridiculous to force cousins together, in fact in this case I would say it’s abusive given Harry and Meghan’s history and the abusive bullying way they have treated William and Catherine in particular, I wouldn’t let the poisonous duo and their offspring anywhere near my children and I have no doubt William will do exactly that.

Agree

I don't think they do. I think they think they were right all along, but their family just don't get it and it is soooo unfair that now the Invictus MIGs are forcing them to yadayadayada... and no-one is giving them any money anymore.

Narcs never accept that they were in thecwrong.

We all have "dodgy" relations and if H&M were just minor pains in the arse, fine, the odd meet up wouldn't hurt. However and I hate to sound dramatic but I genuinely believe H&M have a deep rooted hatred for William, C and their 3 children. They want nothing good for them. You cannot let people like that within pissing distance of you and your loved ones

Like f_ would I leave my children / grandchildren within a hundred miles of Brand Sussex.

No. The narcissist has the twin powers of delusion and grandiosity ramped up to protect their fragile egos. Like the toddler with chocolate round their mouth insisting that they haven’t been near the cookie jar - when everyone can see the truth. Hilarious really.

No. If I were W&C I would consider it too dangerous, at many levels.

When you - the parent - have made the decision to go NC with a toxic relative, you don't allow any opportunity for the toxic ones to get back in. The kids meeting up would give endless opportunities for the Sussexes to bother the Waleses in private and traduce them in public.

Goodness knows what lies the Sussexes would manufacture about such a "tea party". I wouldn't let my children get within miles of them.

Yes I know they are kids but it is highly unlikely the Sussex are going to grow up any different to their parents and that's unfortunate

Perhaps they could be accomodated in the Tower of London. Should answer everyone's security concerns; plus it's got an interesting riverside entrance...

Where there's a rift between the parents, I think the chances of a cousinly relationship are close to zero.

My SIL can't stand us, and we don't like her either. For some years we lived within a couple of miles of each other, and we dutifully invited them to Christmases, birthday parties, occasional local meet-ups a few times a year (stuff which all the kids might enjoy). Nope. Perhaps one meeting in 3 years. Kids still didn't know each other.

To be fair, we only did it because we felt sorry for our nephew (who had basically no extended family because SIL was on even worse terms with her other relatives and her in-laws). And I think people know when you don't really want to see them, so no wonder SIL turned everything down. But to this day we don't really know DNephew. And our kids certainly don't. They're all adults now, and I reckon the cousins could pass each other in the street without knowing (and for all I know this has happened).

I do feel sad about it, but realistically it was never going to happen. Our kids do have other cousins who they are close to. DNephew seems to be doing OK, as far as we know.

Maybe because the Office of the D&D of Sussex is now just them with an up to date Word licence & they've outsourced their PR to , well to whom?, I just can't see how H particularly can't read the room , or indeed his home country. He and his wife scrape marginally above AMW in popularity polls and have languished there for a long while. How he thinks he can throw his weight around regarding his father, whether he graces us with his presence and Govt decided security issues regarding his visits , which will be partly tax payer funded - well , perhaps his mother was wise when she feared H might be considered dim.

Fabulous idea @MrsGusset . My only slight concern is that even the Ravens wouldn't put up with him and if they do their own freedom flight where does that leave all of us 😂

Yes his mother was spot on. He's clinically stupid but he's dangerously self unaware and narcissistic

I think it was the combination of that statement, @Puzzledandpissedoff, and the comment she made about having been told there was no change to the security arrangements (on the picture of her TwiX posts I posted) that made me take it that this was the palace now being very clear about things.

It would follow the pattern that they've used before - not commenting on things until there's a suggestion that the King is being unconstitutional. They did so at the time of Harry's court case as well.

There's now an article in the Times saying that the King refuses to be drawn into 'emotional blackmail' about security, but it's behind a paywall - someone else may be able to access it.

A toxic combination.

Just looked on archive.ph but it only has the blocked page version. 🤞 for a generous person with a Times subscription.