PR Disasters chapter 12

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Meg n Harry giving us plenty to talk about as usual…..

She isn’t stunning. She’s attractive. Stunning is a ridiculous overstatement.

I wasn't baiting you - I just find a lot of these comments do prove the point she can do not right in some eyes.

Meghan's crass as fuck - and the pre photos show a lack thought frankly. She got an oufit right - a win by her poor previous standards - but the venom this generations here is absurd.

I think the world has seen how little she and Harry have to offer and how poor their behavior is. Is she good at fashion - no and there are many examples of this. She dressed appropriate for the occasion and looked good in some photos - shows she can do it which begs question why she gets it so wrong on so many other occaions to me rather than finding tinest things to bitch out here.

I find it interesting how badly these two have blown through every opportunity and how tone deaf they are but she will occaionally hit the low bar set and do okay at events. I don't see acknowledging that as dismissing all the actual problems she presents to the world - clearly for some everything she does means she evil - I think she a woman who has delusions of competence and the mismatch with reality is often amusing. But I do seem to be very out of step on here and with the prevaling attitude of burn the witch.

Jess Phillips MP (Labour, Birmingham Yardley) is someone to listen to about online child harms, and she's critical of Keir Starmer and Harry's chums in the Cabinet for dragging their feet on this.

In an excoriating letter she focused on a lack of urgency and boldness in tackling child abuse images, accusing Starmer of failing to take action to stop children being able to take or send naked pictures.

“We could stop this abuse. It has taken me a year to get you to agree to even threaten to legislate in this space. Not legislate, just threaten. This is the definition of incremental change. Nothing bold about it. The announcement was meant to be in March.”

She said: “Over a year ago I presented solutions, long worked on by brilliant civil servants, that would end the ability for children in the UK to take naked images of themselves ..."

Where's Harry and Meghan? Meg's busy posting images of her own kids online that they can't consent to, and Harry's grubbing for money for and via Invictus Birmingham. He's got to keep Shabana and Yvette sweet, eh?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/12/online-safety-campaigners-reveal-starmer-frustrations-after-phillips-exit

No headlines for Catherine 🙄

It’s neither a great nor a terrible outfit. If M genuinely did this sort of thing regularly, it would be unremarkable. It’s a slightly blocky work-suit, with a jacket that makes her top half look a bit square.

Weirdly, I think the reason she often doesn’t dress well, is that she perhaps doesn’t love fashion and clothes as much as she claims. I feel like she chooses costumes for her character of the day, rather than being interested in material, colour, cut and design. It’s such a shame because she’s an attractive woman who could look stunning in the right outfits.

No headlines for the King either, what a disaster that visit was 😂

Meghan's crass as fuck - and the pre photos show a lack thought frankly. She got an oufit right - a win by her poor previous standards - but the venom this generations here is absurd.

You must have been reading a different thread to me or you're being deliberately goady.

Meghan does indeed attract some 'venom' online but I've not seen it on this thread. Some liked her outfit, some thought it could be better. I'm one of the latter. It wasn't a bad outfit, just poorly styled and fitted, and a bit OTT for a small daytime event. You seem to be demanding that everyone share your view that this was a great outfit, and dismissing all who disagree as foaming at the mouth 'burn the witch' types. But that's not what I'm seeing at all.

As I and others have said, Meghan is trying to establish herself as a fashion influencer so critiques of her outfit are perfectly appropriate. She is clearly using this event to merch, otherwise she wouldn't 'just so happened' to have had the Armani label on full display in that ridiculous photo. You yourself seem far more interested in having a go at people here than in saying anything about her speech, while claiming that should be the focus. It clearly isn't for you.

I don't think it's a situation of burn the witch whatever she does. I think it's the opposite, actually. Too often their "wins", which are slight indeed (as well as sleight if you want to delve a bit deeper into their murky financials and morals) are blown into something huge and significant; whereas their myriad losses and numerous hypocrisies and lies are brushed under the carpet by main stream commentary. It is pretty much only social media commentators who are holding up an honest mirror to this pair.

I’m really surprised you didn’t see anything about it in the media. There was a lot of coverage in the lead up to the trip because it was her first overseas visit since her diagnosis. The build up and the first day received extensive coverage but the second day didn’t seem to get as much attention.

Indeed! , I have not commented on her outfits previously and normally don’t! , I also thought it looked ok, so I’m curious as to how I and others are being accused of having a “burn the witch “ mentality!!! 🤔
however another poster did alert me that lifes2short post was going to trigger exactly this reaction!!
my hat is off to you ( you know who you are!)

I thought she looked good and although I haven't watched it to confirm, I'm happy to hear she didn't promote herself in her speech. But she massively let herself and, more importantly, the parents of those children, down when she posted that photo of the lilac dress. It has tainted the event for me.

By the way @AprilMizzel, I find you saying that Meghan is “crass as fuck” a much bigger step too far than someone commenting on the length of her sleeves! 😬

She’s a 🪭

I think posters who say comments are “bitchy” or “burn the witch” are the actual bitchy comments, (carefully constructed so it’s not a direct personal attack) not posters saying the suit is a poor fit or a mismatched black, hypocrisy in plain sight.

That photo showed terrible judgement on several different levels.

Firstly, as we've discussed, having her faceless 4 year old daughter kneel at her feet, as though she were a servant.

Secondly, using a solemn event about children to merch outfits. Because that's clearly what she was doing. Wearing the lilac dress in the selfie and prominently displaying the Armani jacket. I wonder if she heard criticism of her merching on the Oz tour and thought she'd 'pre-merch' the outfits rather than post photos from the 'charitable' event itself? Not that it makes much of a difference really.

She could have posted some information about the event in Geneva and the children it was celebrating. But instead she chose to merch her outfits and use her daugher as a prop. But it's 'bitching' to discuss those outfits in anything less than glowing terms?

as you know I don’t give a damn what she wears or what she looks like!
and I’m not alone but still we are haters, I do however care that she pinched her speech from someone else and then was pictured hugging distraught parents with a smile on her face for the camera!!

Disaster tourism as ever! Let’s face it, she and Harry just want to control social media so they can stop people saying things they don’t like about them, The Parents Network is just a useful tool, if they really cared about children’s wellbeing on social media their children wouldn’t be posted daily on it.

Perhaps it’s just that my news feed isn’t showing much about it. Lately, it’s been full of coverage on the local elections and now the Labour government and its leadership challenge. I don’t buy newspapers, so I wouldn’t see print headlines anyway, and when I think of 'the media,' I’m mainly referring to UK newspapers, as that’s where I’d usually expect to see this kind of coverage.

I also don’t watch the news and I don’t know many people who still do. Most of my friends tend to get their updates through social media or by checking news apps from time to time.

So from my perspective, I really haven’t seen much at all. I don’t actively look for news about the Royal Family either if something happens to be trending and I come across it on the platforms I use, I might take a look, like today on here where it was in trending news but that’s about it.

Thinking about it, I can’t actually remember the last time I had a conversation with friends or family about them it’s probably not since the Queen passed away.

It’s the belief that others somehow others have a moral superiority because they’re above critiquing clothing choices, which is completely unnecessary.

I would never comment on some saying the outfit looks fine. That’s an opinion. I will comment on someone saying that it’s a step too far to talk about sleeve length, passing themselves off as morally superior.

I take an interest in fashion. Always have. Therefore I comment on the fashions of Meg …sometimes Harry. I don’t comment on other areas that other posters take an interest in….IG finances for example, because it’s not an area I know much about but I don’t think that’s a topic that should be out of bounds!

If you don’t take an interest in fashion, then I can see why posters don’t want to comment on the garments of a fashion influencer who wants you to buy what she’s wearing. I do take an interest and won’t be called out for it on a thread that is about exactly that….Meg PR.

both advents were widely reported on by not only the news but morning tv , afternoon catch ups , social media, newspapers and digital news platforms! It was also widely discussed on Reddit and x , someone would need to have their head in the sand not to have noticed! 🤷‍♀️

Very true! , just because I have no interest in clothes, certainly doesn’t give me the right to criticise those who do! , so I don’t! I normally just don’t comment!
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Exactly. There’s loads of RF threads that I don’t comment on because I’m either not interested or don’t know anything about it…so I don’t comment. I don’t make a point of calling out others who do want to discuss it.

Also, heaven forbid posters ever wonder onto Reddit or Tattle……they’d get the shock of their lives!

Ok so my view on her outfit.

It was appropriate for the occasion and it was ok. But she could have styled it much better.

M has a tricky body shape in that (though slim) she has a square torso with an ill defined waist. I say this without meaning to be derogatory as my frame is very similar 😂.

It can be an absolute bugger of a shape to dress. If you get clothes that fit your shoulders/hips they are invariably too tight at the waist or if you fit to your waist you end up with clothes that just look oversized around your hips/shoulders and make you look much bigger than you are.

So you have to dress/style strategically. In terms of jackets, cropped jackets that end at the smallest part of the waist are a good option.

Another if you want to wear longer jackets is to fit to your shoulders and wear them unbuttoned (so they don’t pull at the waist as we see happening in the pictures of M).

The other option is to lean into the oversized “boyfriend” baggy blazer look where clothing deliberately isn’t cut to accommodate a waistline (M seems to do this quite a bit) but it often risks you looking totally shapeless and isn’t a very “polished” look for a formal occasion.

Of course you could get items tailored but that’s going to cost (but imho I’d argue if you are going to spend over £3k on a designer jacket then there’s no point in doing so unless it fits you properly or are prepared to wear in a flattering way).

IMHO she’d have looked great in the jacket and trousers if she’d paired them with a contrasting cream/ivory (or other colour) fitted shirt, a good belt to define her waist and left the button on the jacket open (the contrast shirt would have also addressed the issue of the different shades of black between the jacket and her top).

So no, imho it wasn’t so much an outfit catastrophe but rather a missed opportunity that could have been styled a lot better.

The thing about social media is that it gives back what you put in. So if you don't search or click on royal stories, they won't feature in your feed.

Catherine's vist to Italy got about the level of coverage you'd expect from a short royal visit. I think if it had been a slower news day, we'd have seen cute photos of Kate with Italian children on nearly every front page, but the Starmer shenanigans took over. However, the King's State Visit to America was major news for several days. I'm not sure how you could have missed that.

I never go on the style and beauty threads for that reason! What do I know? Everyone looks ok to me! 😂, oh yes Reddit makes us look positively fan girls! , I’ve never been on tattle but I’ve heard it’s fairly robust!