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PR Disasters chapter 12

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AtIusvue · 13/05/2026 11:46

Meg n Harry giving us plenty to talk about as usual…..

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Jellybelly80 · 18/05/2026 12:29

BasiliskStare · 18/05/2026 10:18

I actually liked the suit , but for someone with a forensic eye for detail and one who seems to positioning herself as a fashion expert I agree with the mismatched black - but cf her outfit at the Kardashians. I suspect it looked better IRL , but photographs do reflect different colours , materials differently. I think she was very much going for "serious Meghan" here. This is probably far too pernickety and a very personal opinion , I wouldn't have worn all black to a memorial exhibition about children who have lost their lives. That , though is one opinion and quite happy to be shot down for it, I can see more than one view. Anyway , not the most important thing. I still think hanging the jacket label outwards on an instagram post the day before was misguided.

ET , I do think being sombrely dressed was appropriate.

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I’d not have worn the flares. I think for ‘work’ straight are better.

JSMill · 18/05/2026 12:33

jeffgoldblum · 18/05/2026 11:15

Saw this cartoon in an article from “brewtifull living” a coffee publication ( no idea why they are making articles about Meghan!🤷‍♀️) , thought it summed it up well!

How many of the embarrassingly small crowd were actually just there on a professional basis eg press? When will MM finally get the message that she’s just not popular?

AprilMizzel · 18/05/2026 12:33

flapjackfairy · 18/05/2026 12:03

yes actually I agree. I have no love for either Harry or Meghan but nit picking over the length of her sleeves is a step too far. She often looks a mess and is dressed inappropriately but on this occasion she looked fine and she did OK by most accounts though I haven't watched her speech myself. There are often valid criticisms to be raised but analysing every aspect of her appearance and criticising it seems overly petty.

I agree as well.

She does enough with her dress and behavior to not nit pick. I thought she looked good in the suit - when she dressed for her body type she has in the past looked very good.

It just adds fuel their argument she can do nothing right and everyone out to get her - rather than her behavior and his being frequently very poor.

Jellybelly80 · 18/05/2026 12:34

SevenYellowHammers · 18/05/2026 10:38

For God sake! You’re like school bullies. You can’t leave it alone can you. You know I hate 90% of what passes as culture and heritage in this country but I let it be.

I’m sorry but I can’t even recall your username let alone that you hate 90% of what passes as culture and heritage in this country.

WhatTheActualFeckityFeck · 18/05/2026 12:37

AtIusvue · 18/05/2026 10:58

Agree. It doesn’t fit but it’s not the worst. But for someone with millions in the bank and speaking on an international stage…..it shouldn't happen.

I’ve seen the outfit referred to the first suit a graduate buys, which I think makes sense. It doesn’t fit correctly, but from a distance you can sort of get away with it. But the point is, graduates don’t have the cash to spend so have to go to the high street and are unlikely to be able to afford to have it altered. That’s not megs world, so she has no excuses.

Remember when she claimed she collaborated with Balenciaga for 'key moments on the world stage'? That was fecking hilarious. Meanwhile the designer dude's saying 'erm, no I don't think so, she invited herself' and she's looking like shiny-headed Zoolander in a sheet and then it's feet up on the back seat of a car to drive past where Diana erm, actually died in the tunnel, but oh no it wasn't like that we just need to understand the context and anyway we're all just jealous of her key moments on the world's roundabouts. New York, Paris, Geneva - she's done all the top, global roundabouts and traffic junctions.

It's like The Truman Show meets Monty Python. Life Of Meghan.

IcedPurple · 18/05/2026 12:38

AprilMizzel · 18/05/2026 12:33

I agree as well.

She does enough with her dress and behavior to not nit pick. I thought she looked good in the suit - when she dressed for her body type she has in the past looked very good.

It just adds fuel their argument she can do nothing right and everyone out to get her - rather than her behavior and his being frequently very poor.

But Meghan isn't a serious activist or stateswoman.

She's an influencer with a lifestyle brand, who uses ostensibly 'charitable' visits as an opportunity to merch the clothes she's wearing. Therefore, what you refer to as 'nit picking' over her outfits seems quite appropriate. It's not like she gives us much of substance to work with, is it?

ShamedBySiri · 18/05/2026 12:39

I’ve no idea when/where/why she did a clothes change but someone on X has noticed the lilac lab coat hanging on the back of the door underneath a black jacket which may or may not be hers. (I’m assuming no clever photoshop stuff behind this).

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Rhaidimiddim · 18/05/2026 12:39

Lifestooshort71 · 18/05/2026 11:35

OK, I'm fed up to the back teeth of the constant tearing down of this woman. Yes, I don't like her either but she's doesn't murder babies or kick puppies. I'm fed up with the nitpicking of her outfits, her hair, her makeup - I didn't see the full frontal of her suit but, if I had, I wouldn't have given a toss about 'the arms are too short' 'the black t-shirt is a different black' etc, etc. I respect a lot of the posters on this forum but sometimes the threads are OTT. I'm going to hop over and see if Style and Beauty has a more balanced view.

A drive-by scold AND a flounce!

I have missed this over the weekend.

LipglossAndLies · 18/05/2026 12:41

Well if we can talk about anything on any thread and since this one is titled PR disasters, it does seem to me somewhat of a disaster that Kate wasn't headline news for her trip to Italy and her work to expand her message about early years.

Someone mentioned earlier on this thread there isn't enough coverage about the good work other members of the family do so it does seem on the whole that the PR department isn't doing a good job to ensure what they are doing hits the headlines which gets the most exposure and instead is sometimes an article shoved far down the page that you might not even scroll to.

I don't recall seeing much about the Kings trip to the US it didn't really get much attention over here by our press and all the good he was doing over their with his soft power/diplomacy. I saw his speech was very good and deserved more coverage at the very least by our own media.

Interesting times.

jeffgoldblum · 18/05/2026 12:41

Jellybelly80 · 18/05/2026 12:34

I’m sorry but I can’t even recall your username let alone that you hate 90% of what passes as culture and heritage in this country.

When you see a three word user name including a colour and either an animal or object, is normally a new user who has taken the default name mn issue, they no longer go with user and numbers.

AprilMizzel · 18/05/2026 12:42

IcedPurple · 18/05/2026 12:38

But Meghan isn't a serious activist or stateswoman.

She's an influencer with a lifestyle brand, who uses ostensibly 'charitable' visits as an opportunity to merch the clothes she's wearing. Therefore, what you refer to as 'nit picking' over her outfits seems quite appropriate. It's not like she gives us much of substance to work with, is it?

I didn't claim she was a statewoman but she was at an event persuambly to offer supprot and publicity.

She got one outfit right for once - occasion and look - a very rare win.

Yet some of the comments here are so very petty - they say much more about posters than Meghan or Meghan's outfit TBH.

HayfeverComethAndThatRightSoon · 18/05/2026 12:44

Very peculiarly, this article was headline this morning before 6am UK time. It's now nowhere on the front page. Can someone please archive it? I'm interested in hearing what the experts on this thread think. (I'm posting a screenshot so as to not feed the click beast.)

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BreadInCaptivity · 18/05/2026 12:45

Ok a fashion pedant post 😂 re: posters citing “couture”.

Designer clothing and Haute Couture are very, very different.

You can buy designer clothing from brands like Armani/Dior/Channel but these are simply from their ready to wear collections - you can walk into any of their shops (or websites) and buy off the rack.

In the case of Armani ready to wear it’s labeled “Giorgio Armani” (which is the label M displays in the picture). Retail price will be circa £3.5K.

Haute Couture is a very different beast. Any clothing produced as HC has to meet very specific requirements, from the construction methods (seam treatments, stitching etc), number of staff in the atelier and every garment has to be custom made for the client , requiring multiple fittings.

Armani HC is labelled “Armani Privé”. A couture AP jacket will cost between £10-20k (even up to £50k if it’s sufficiently embellished with bespoke embroidery/beading etc).

So, yes her jacket is designer and expensive, but it’s not couture and anyone (willing to part with £3.5k) could buy one.

The fit is exactly (unless she had it altered - but it looks as if she has not) what it was when she acquired it - same as any of us buying a jacket from M&S.

Buying a designer jacket doesn’t mean it will look great if the fit is poor. As a pp noted a person would be far better off spending half the amount (or less) on a higher end high street/lower end designer item and having it tailored to fit in terms of how “expensive” it looks when worn (again as a pp
noted why you see other royals rocking “high street” items and looking fabulous I’d bet in a lot of cases they’ve been altered to fit perfectly).

That said there are a cohort of people who covert the label above all else, even when the item is not especially flattering.

Either way the main point 😃 is that the jacket is not couture. It’s just an expensive ready to wear piece of clothing.

AprilMizzel · 18/05/2026 12:45

LipglossAndLies · 18/05/2026 12:41

Well if we can talk about anything on any thread and since this one is titled PR disasters, it does seem to me somewhat of a disaster that Kate wasn't headline news for her trip to Italy and her work to expand her message about early years.

Someone mentioned earlier on this thread there isn't enough coverage about the good work other members of the family do so it does seem on the whole that the PR department isn't doing a good job to ensure what they are doing hits the headlines which gets the most exposure and instead is sometimes an article shoved far down the page that you might not even scroll to.

I don't recall seeing much about the Kings trip to the US it didn't really get much attention over here by our press and all the good he was doing over their with his soft power/diplomacy. I saw his speech was very good and deserved more coverage at the very least by our own media.

Interesting times.

I saw headlines about the Italian trip and about the Kings speach - so perhaps it's your feeds?

It's probably harder to get interest in good works than click bait disaters given our media and the politcial fall out and various war news has been dominating everything recently.

jeffgoldblum · 18/05/2026 12:46

LipglossAndLies · 18/05/2026 12:41

Well if we can talk about anything on any thread and since this one is titled PR disasters, it does seem to me somewhat of a disaster that Kate wasn't headline news for her trip to Italy and her work to expand her message about early years.

Someone mentioned earlier on this thread there isn't enough coverage about the good work other members of the family do so it does seem on the whole that the PR department isn't doing a good job to ensure what they are doing hits the headlines which gets the most exposure and instead is sometimes an article shoved far down the page that you might not even scroll to.

I don't recall seeing much about the Kings trip to the US it didn't really get much attention over here by our press and all the good he was doing over their with his soft power/diplomacy. I saw his speech was very good and deserved more coverage at the very least by our own media.

Interesting times.

Where are you that you haven’t seen the news of Catherine’s Italian visit on tv? , it’s everywhere! 🤔 , the king’s visit wasn’t headline news?? , I’m thinking you are having a laugh surely! 🤣

IcedPurple · 18/05/2026 12:47

AprilMizzel · 18/05/2026 12:42

I didn't claim she was a statewoman but she was at an event persuambly to offer supprot and publicity.

She got one outfit right for once - occasion and look - a very rare win.

Yet some of the comments here are so very petty - they say much more about posters than Meghan or Meghan's outfit TBH.

I didn't claim she was a statewoman but she was at an event persuambly to offer supprot and publicity.

And her preparation for that event was to post a photo of her wardrobe, with the Armani label on prime display. She could have posted about the event and the children it commemorates but she chose not to do that. She chose to let us know that she would be wearing Armani. With her 4 year old daughter as an accessory. So clearly her clothes were a major focus for her, and she wanted them to be for us as well.

She got one outfit right for once - occasion and look - a very rare win.

I don't think the outfit was terrible but I wouldn't call it a 'win' either, for the reasons I've mentioned.

Yet some of the comments here are so very petty - they say much more about posters than Meghan or Meghan's outfit TBH.

Nope. Not rising to the bait.

AtIusvue · 18/05/2026 12:48

flapjackfairy · 18/05/2026 12:03

yes actually I agree. I have no love for either Harry or Meghan but nit picking over the length of her sleeves is a step too far. She often looks a mess and is dressed inappropriately but on this occasion she looked fine and she did OK by most accounts though I haven't watched her speech myself. There are often valid criticisms to be raised but analysing every aspect of her appearance and criticising it seems overly petty.

A step too far?? Get serious.

Shes a fashion influencer who has her own page on One-off World…where you can purchase the garments she wears and she gets payment from any sales. She has also seemingly invested in this company. Just like she did with a handbag company.

She has spoken many times about the ‘Meghan effect’ on clothing sales etc.She spoke to NYT about it. So she is very clear, that she knows that people are looking and commenting…she also hopes they will also go out and buy these items…making her some money in the process.

She is a celebrity that uses fashion for her own PR and money making purposes…..so no it’s not a step too far to comment on her fashion for Christs sake.

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Lunde · 18/05/2026 12:51

I think she looked fine for a memorial-type event she was attending. It was clearly not a very well attended event apart from those involved with the UN or charity. The photos from her favourite PR mouthpiece, People Magazine, showed that although barriers had been placed on the street there were only a couple of randoms.

I'm intrigued to why she went. Parents' Network was a charity that Harry and Meghan very publicly dumped when the Archewell Foundation closed down and it found a new home at another non-profit, Parents Together.

It's also an odd choice that she chose to post multiple pictures on Instagram of her own children in the same week she was speaking at an anti SM event. It seems a very mixed message,

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Indianrollerbird · 18/05/2026 12:53

Lifestooshort71 · 18/05/2026 11:35

OK, I'm fed up to the back teeth of the constant tearing down of this woman. Yes, I don't like her either but she's doesn't murder babies or kick puppies. I'm fed up with the nitpicking of her outfits, her hair, her makeup - I didn't see the full frontal of her suit but, if I had, I wouldn't have given a toss about 'the arms are too short' 'the black t-shirt is a different black' etc, etc. I respect a lot of the posters on this forum but sometimes the threads are OTT. I'm going to hop over and see if Style and Beauty has a more balanced view.

The Style and Beauty thread is full of people nitpicking about everything the royal women wear, and it's usually open season on Catherine's hair and the tedious "too long", "ringlets" posts. I don't like posts about their bodies, but fashion choices are there to be judged if you are setting yourself up as a fashion icon, as Meghan is.

flapjackfairy · 18/05/2026 12:55

AtIusvue · 18/05/2026 12:48

A step too far?? Get serious.

Shes a fashion influencer who has her own page on One-off World…where you can purchase the garments she wears and she gets payment from any sales. She has also seemingly invested in this company. Just like she did with a handbag company.

She has spoken many times about the ‘Meghan effect’ on clothing sales etc.She spoke to NYT about it. So she is very clear, that she knows that people are looking and commenting…she also hopes they will also go out and buy these items…making her some money in the process.

She is a celebrity that uses fashion for her own PR and money making purposes…..so no it’s not a step too far to comment on her fashion for Christs sake.

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well we will have to agree to disagree on that one .

AtIusvue · 18/05/2026 12:57

flapjackfairy · 18/05/2026 12:55

well we will have to agree to disagree on that one .

Pointing out the sleeve length is too short and the jacket is pulling isn’t being pedantic. It’s pointing out that the jacket doesn’t fit. How on earth is that a step too far?

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StrawberryWasp · 18/05/2026 12:57

I thought she looked good. Groomed and serious. And I thought her speech was fine. Less 'performy' than usual. More standard professional vibe, than the exaggerated gurning eye closing 'I'm such a dazzling compassionate super star I bet you can't believe I'm here' vibe she usually does.

So all fine, and you'd think maybe she's learning, except for the insta post the night before using her daughter to advertise her jacket. Before she talks about children being exploited online.

Also flying from the USA to Geneva to give a speech on a roundabout in front of a few people seems like a poor use of time and terrible for the environment.
Don't they care about the environment anymore??

Mylovelygreendress · 18/05/2026 12:58

LipglossAndLies · 18/05/2026 12:41

Well if we can talk about anything on any thread and since this one is titled PR disasters, it does seem to me somewhat of a disaster that Kate wasn't headline news for her trip to Italy and her work to expand her message about early years.

Someone mentioned earlier on this thread there isn't enough coverage about the good work other members of the family do so it does seem on the whole that the PR department isn't doing a good job to ensure what they are doing hits the headlines which gets the most exposure and instead is sometimes an article shoved far down the page that you might not even scroll to.

I don't recall seeing much about the Kings trip to the US it didn't really get much attention over here by our press and all the good he was doing over their with his soft power/diplomacy. I saw his speech was very good and deserved more coverage at the very least by our own media.

Interesting times.

Where were you that you didn’t see coverage of Catherine’s trip to Italy or the King’s very successful Stare visit to the US ?
Seriously , there was a LOT of coverage.

jeffgoldblum · 18/05/2026 13:02

Mylovelygreendress · 18/05/2026 12:58

Where were you that you didn’t see coverage of Catherine’s trip to Italy or the King’s very successful Stare visit to the US ?
Seriously , there was a LOT of coverage.

a fan 🪭.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 18/05/2026 13:07

Well if we can talk about anything on any thread and since this one is titled PR disasters, it does seem to me somewhat of a disaster that Kate wasn't headline news for her trip to Italy and her work to expand her message about early years

You’ve revealed your hand too early 😂

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