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The royal family

AMW continuing his effort to end the monarchy part 4

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simpsonthecat · 08/05/2026 22:01

New thread. This is not ending

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simpsonthecat · 06/06/2026 15:58

Bluegreygreen. Don't be sorry, no reason for you to apologize. It was just gobbledygook to me

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Verityandsquab654 · 06/06/2026 15:59

Ukisgaslit · 06/06/2026 15:24

Great post

I’d argue that reform needs to start with removing king’s consent . The rest flows from that .
Lance the boil.

Yes, agree, very much so. It’s so fundamentally undemocratic for the royal household to receive notice of legislation that might potentially affect the finances of the royal family, ahead of MPs!

simpsonthecat · 06/06/2026 16:00

Love your post at 1347 @Verityandsquab654
Makes perfect sense to me

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simpsonthecat · 06/06/2026 16:01

Verityandsquab654 · 06/06/2026 15:59

Yes, agree, very much so. It’s so fundamentally undemocratic for the royal household to receive notice of legislation that might potentially affect the finances of the royal family, ahead of MPs!

I agree
They have to be scrutinised and answerable to somebody FFS!

Refining laws for their own benefit is just not on

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/06/2026 16:33

AreYouSureAskedNaomi · 06/06/2026 14:58

In other words, we British citizens should expect our head of state and his family to lie and accept they're corrupt

How depressing

It is indeed depressing, AreYouSureAboutNaomi, but since the RF so clearly have things stitched up in their favour - and since nobody in parliament appears willing to do anything about even the worst examples - expecting anything else seems a bit futile

Verityandsquab654 · 06/06/2026 17:33

Agree simpsonthecat

The current system is predicated on the assumption that the RF are all fine upstanding paragons who wouldn’t dream of making any dodgy deals with murky Russian or Afghani businessmen, making property deals on the side of trade envoy duties, allegedly passing on classified state information to unauthorised businessemen, or pocketing any untaxed rental income from property on which they already pay peppercorn rents, or allegedly laundering any money received in the form of jewels which were, allegedly, presents from Middle Eastern contacts, using, allegedly, a renowned jewellery company, or possibly agreeing to any cash for access deals.

Given what he did find out with the help of a forensic accountant, imagine what Lownie could have dug up if he hadn’t faced endless rejected FOI requests, potential interviewees having signed NDAs or had their pensions threatened, or potential interviewees having suddenly received honours or a new job in the royal household!

We give them far too much freedom and trust which they have exploited. IMHO, the royal family have failed in their responsibility to police themselves and now require outside, independent scrutiny.

Most reasonable people would still be prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt and trust in their probity if it hadn’t been for the fact that they have covered up the alleged criminality of AMW for fifteen years!

It’s hard to think back that far, as so much as happened since, but it’s worth remembering that we still probably wouldn’t be hearing about it, and they would still be covering up his activities, it if it wasn’t for the Epstein case!

CathyorClaire · 06/06/2026 20:09

And on how AMW and Edward have been letting out parts of these properties which is deemed problematic because as Crown Estate properties, it is argued that any income generated should go back to the Treasury and not in to their pockets.

Fun fact on Ed's office space:

It was originally the offices of Ardent, his TV production company which was paying for its use. The only year the company declared a profit was the year he waived the rent. Another circular cash recycling similar to the Highgrove rent scam which saw C3's rental payments to his 'landlord' land back in his pocket in the form of Duchy profits.

Back again to Ed - we discover today that the office space was recently let to the Royal Collection Trust.

There seems literally no end to the troughing.

CathyorClaire · 06/06/2026 20:18

bluegreygreen · 06/06/2026 11:32

Maybe if he had he would have avoided having as a donor and co founder of Earthshot a close associate of Epstein?

Any clarification yet on how a charity W is 'ambassador' for came to win an Earthshot award ahead of the alleged thousands of other entrants?

bluegreygreen · 06/06/2026 21:44

No idea - have you asked?

All I know of the process is from the website - nominations / advisory panel / shortlist / prize council / winners.

myrtleWilson · 06/06/2026 22:11

bluegreygreen · 06/06/2026 21:44

No idea - have you asked?

All I know of the process is from the website - nominations / advisory panel / shortlist / prize council / winners.

Indeed, @CathyorClaire has been posting about this for a while, they could easily contact WildAid to see if PW is still an active ambassador, despite the only visible evidence dating back to 2013, or not....

jeffgoldblum · 07/06/2026 00:55

bluegreygreen · 06/06/2026 21:44

No idea - have you asked?

All I know of the process is from the website - nominations / advisory panel / shortlist / prize council / winners.

I feel the need to publicly show admiration for your efforts to share the facts constantly in the face of people purposefully ignoring it! , I appreciate what you post because it gives the opportunity for people to form their own opinions based on facts rather than emotions.

simpsonthecat · 07/06/2026 06:12

How sweet! A bonding moment between two regulars 🥰
I must remember to do that to someone I agree with <makes mental note>

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BillericayDickie · 07/06/2026 09:35

i was surprised that the york women were so public in the wedding yesterday.
strange that they rocked up so publicly with all the dodgy stuff going on.
yet H doesn't get an invite.

LipglossAndLies · 07/06/2026 09:42

BillericayDickie · 07/06/2026 09:35

i was surprised that the york women were so public in the wedding yesterday.
strange that they rocked up so publicly with all the dodgy stuff going on.
yet H doesn't get an invite.

I'm not surprised. It's always smoke and mirrors with the Royal Family, they were never ostracised or being side lined by the family they just needed people to believe it 🙄

simpsonthecat · 07/06/2026 09:56

BillericayDickie · 07/06/2026 09:35

i was surprised that the york women were so public in the wedding yesterday.
strange that they rocked up so publicly with all the dodgy stuff going on.
yet H doesn't get an invite.

Totally agree. The family would have AMW there if they could, bet you, but public opinion wouldn't allow it

There is something very wrong with the two daughters refusing to have their business dealings checked out by an ethics committee. Tells me all I need to know, dodgy as hell !

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simpsonthecat · 07/06/2026 10:04

https://archive.ph/kppnb

Had to archive, because behind the paywall. An Independent article

The Royals have been cashing in on our ignorance about their finances for far too long

The steady drip drip of information about royal finances paints a picture of a group of people living high on the hog while the rest of the population struggles with a cost of living crisis. It is not disloyal or unpatriotic to demand that things start to be done differently,

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CathyorClaire · 07/06/2026 10:14

myrtleWilson · 06/06/2026 22:11

Indeed, @CathyorClaire has been posting about this for a while, they could easily contact WildAid to see if PW is still an active ambassador, despite the only visible evidence dating back to 2013, or not....

No need.

He's still heavily puffed on the website:

wildaid.org/ambassadors/hrh-prince-william/

The marine arm won the prize in 2023.

CathyorClaire · 07/06/2026 10:16

BillericayDickie · 07/06/2026 09:35

i was surprised that the york women were so public in the wedding yesterday.
strange that they rocked up so publicly with all the dodgy stuff going on.
yet H doesn't get an invite.

I was surprised to see them so prominent too.

Wonder if they're still disinvited from Ascot?

BillericayDickie · 07/06/2026 10:22

CathyorClaire · 07/06/2026 10:16

I was surprised to see them so prominent too.

Wonder if they're still disinvited from Ascot?

I imagine them just going.

AnnunciataM · 07/06/2026 10:25

BillericayDickie · 07/06/2026 09:35

i was surprised that the york women were so public in the wedding yesterday.
strange that they rocked up so publicly with all the dodgy stuff going on.
yet H doesn't get an invite.

Yes, looked like they were among the first guests to arrive and were greeted warmly by all and sundry. And who's to say Andrew wasn't snuck into the evening reception? At this point, nothing would surprise me!

Ukisgaslit · 07/06/2026 10:26

The constant talk of ‘cutting off Andrew and his daughters’ is just another form of PR

It is a pack of lies thrown out to try to silence criticism. That the M O . Throwing out a pack of lies to cover up their behaviour and secrets has worked for generations hasn’t it ?

But it’s not working now - not on most people and not on the younger generations.
But the Windsors will keep throwing out lies - it’s the only thing they know .

I’ve said it before even after all the information about Andrew links to Epstein we had William driving Andrew ,chatting at funerals etc ( William looked to be saying shut up the cameras are on us )
No doubt they’ll dredge up some bullshit like ‘oh it was a private occasion’
Private when it suits them public when it suits them .

CathyorClaire · 07/06/2026 10:27

There is something very wrong with the two daughters refusing to have their business dealings checked out by an ethics committee. Tells me all I need to know, dodgy as hell !

Undoubtedly something going on behind the scenes with the York lot.

No insistence on their opening up the books.

C3 very keen to be publicly seen dealing 'sternly' with MW yet still subbing the Yorkettes' undeserved royal digs.

Warm greetings at a pap heavy family wedding.

Keeping MW onside on the sly and stopping the terrifying tell-all?

Ukisgaslit · 07/06/2026 10:40

I keep thinking of what Sen. Khanna calls the Epstein class
I suspect there are many links between the ‘Epstein class’ and the Windsors . It’s not just Andrew .

Why have as co founder of a so called eco charity the CEO of a global shipping container business - one of the most polluting industries? Greenwashing in my opinion . It’s also greenwashing for William and his profit driven industrial complex .

Why does William take gifts in kind of mega yachts ( also extremely polluting ) and try to cover it up? Who exactly lent the yachts?

Photos of Andrew bruised - I believe the Windsors are photographed when they want to be most of the time . A huge fuss made about removing bullshit ‘titles’
Removal vans the day after we all learnt about the Epstein files ?
Williams cynical ‘victim’ statement the day more files were released to the public as he jets off the Middle East again . Not a word from him about victims until the files were released .
The Windsors STILL have not apologised or retracted their public statement calling Virginia Guiffre a liar.

Look at what they do , not what they say .

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/06/2026 10:41

CathyorClaire · 07/06/2026 10:27

There is something very wrong with the two daughters refusing to have their business dealings checked out by an ethics committee. Tells me all I need to know, dodgy as hell !

Undoubtedly something going on behind the scenes with the York lot.

No insistence on their opening up the books.

C3 very keen to be publicly seen dealing 'sternly' with MW yet still subbing the Yorkettes' undeserved royal digs.

Warm greetings at a pap heavy family wedding.

Keeping MW onside on the sly and stopping the terrifying tell-all?

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Very much with you on that, cathy, and I've been saying the last sentence for years. Anything which Andrew may know is very likely known by his daughters too and there'd be an obvious danger there

As for them declining an ethics committee, in fairness it's optional, but for me it's all part and parcel of the family's determination to avoid accountability and their distaste for the little people who presume to suggest it

Recklessismymiddlename · 07/06/2026 10:54

I noticed they walked. The WR were all dropped off outside the church. Subtle difference I thought, but still there. You may be princesses but you have to do the walk of shame and they did look nervous to my eye.