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The royal family

PR Disasters Part X

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AtIusvue · 29/04/2026 13:09

For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Yesterday 09:22

Archie is certainly old enough that his friends may have watched it and talk to him about it.

Wasn't George related to have said "My dad is going to be king" to his classmates? At that age, it's all "my dad is bigger than your dad" sentiment. Kids that age don't have a sense of discretion about these things.

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 09:29

Did she take the "chocolate man"* to see the chickens, because there's charming footage of Charles and some sweet kids feeding chickens at a community farm in Harlem?

*this sounds like a character from a horror movie.

Ducklingfeet · Yesterday 09:38

flapjackfairy · Yesterday 08:21

the thing i dont get is that lots of her clothes are awful. Often they dont fit , are creased the wrong colour or totally unsuitable for her body type. Who is going to aspire to that ?
When she does get it right she can look stunning there is no doubt about that but more often than not it is a miss rather than a hit. To be a fashion icon you need to look put together and polished at all times and she doesn't look like she puts much effort in most of the time

Yes, that's exactly it. She's NOT that good at it. (In her position - or even with a much lower level of fame and wealth - then I would definitely employ a stylist. I love clothes, but I'm not as good at them as a professional stylist would be, and it would save me time as well.)

It's all of a piece with her general attitude to a lot of things. She can put flower sprinkles everywhere, so she must be talented enough to star in her own cookery and lifestyle programme. She can post on social media, so she must be able to do the marketing for a jam company and make it go global. She can sit with people and talk to them, so she must be able to create an awesome series of podcasts. She can do a bit of calligraphy, so she must be a design genius. Etc, etc, etc.

It's not that she's laughably terrible at all these things (in my opinion); I think she is actually better than average at all of them. But she's just not that good. Not nearly good enough to make it as a professional. As Harry's wife, she's been surrounded by people who praise her minor talents and who do their best to help her parlay them - along with her fame - into something successful (because it would benefit them too), but all their help hasn't been enough.

The problem lies in the gap between her actual abilities and her own opinion of those abilities. And (presumably as a result) her reluctance to accept advice or to let go and delegate even small decisions. Because nobody can do things as well as Meghan. (It also means that she spreads her time and attention so thinly across a range of activities that she never actually puts the deep work into becoming truly good at any of them.)

I would think this is the real reason behind the lack of stylist. A stylist isn't even that expensive.

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 09:39

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Yesterday 09:22

Archie is certainly old enough that his friends may have watched it and talk to him about it.

Wasn't George related to have said "My dad is going to be king" to his classmates? At that age, it's all "my dad is bigger than your dad" sentiment. Kids that age don't have a sense of discretion about these things.

That's a good point. Being told by someone at school (rather than your parents) that your grandfather is the king who met the president this week. Meanwhile, your reality at home is 2 parents worshipping at the alter of a woman who died 30 years ago.

JSMill · Yesterday 09:53

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 09:29

Did she take the "chocolate man"* to see the chickens, because there's charming footage of Charles and some sweet kids feeding chickens at a community farm in Harlem?

*this sounds like a character from a horror movie.

Imagine thinking your silly little video can compete with such a successful visit where everyone looked like they having a great time. The king seemed to really enjoy being with the children. I can’t believe how many people came to see him in Harlem. In fact, I have been surprised at the turnouts in all his foreign trips.

Benio · Yesterday 09:57

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 08:27

He isn't even a friend. She titled the post "when the chocolate man comes to visit". It is just nerching, for her and him. And jf I were him i wouldn't be boasting about supplying over priced generic chocolate.

I wonder if they are discussing extending their product maybe chocolate teapots and chocolate fireguards? Both would be a good fit for MM core business brand values - fuxking useless…

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 10:01

JSMill · Yesterday 09:53

Imagine thinking your silly little video can compete with such a successful visit where everyone looked like they having a great time. The king seemed to really enjoy being with the children. I can’t believe how many people came to see him in Harlem. In fact, I have been surprised at the turnouts in all his foreign trips.

It really did look like it was a lot of mutual fun! The kids were really enjoying having him there, and will alway remember meeting a king. I think Charles may have a new army of US fans after this week. He's certainly stepped out of his mother's shadow.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:12

Who or what is the chocolate man?? Its sounds like a character from a weird horror movie

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:14

Benio · Yesterday 09:57

I wonder if they are discussing extending their product maybe chocolate teapots and chocolate fireguards? Both would be a good fit for MM core business brand values - fuxking useless…

Haha 😂😂

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:20

The King with the children and the chickens is so sweet. Also, he's with children of different ethnicities, which will further destroy H and M's narrative about racism. Which was further denied by H 🙄. This will infuriate them even more

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 10:49

Not the point of the thread - in fact there probably needs to be a thread for PR success, as demonstrated by The Royal tour of USA, but I am in awe of Charles and Camilla's stamina. They had a packed schedule, jet lag, a range of events and people to meet and engage with, causes to support. They didn't stop and looked as if they were loving every moment. Now they have a brief 24 hours in Bermuda. They must be exhausted. Hope they have a quiet, restful weekend ahead.

IcedPurple · Yesterday 11:04

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:20

The King with the children and the chickens is so sweet. Also, he's with children of different ethnicities, which will further destroy H and M's narrative about racism. Which was further denied by H 🙄. This will infuriate them even more

Charles has many faults, but noone familiar with his life believes that racism is one of them. He was into multiculturalism and inclusivity decades before they were a 'thing', and even now gets criticism from certain sectors of the media for being too 'woke'.

I suspect there is much knashing of teeth in Montecito at the fact that the royal visit has been a roaring success. And one they could have been a prominent part of. I honestly can't imagine sabotaging my life, and that of my children, to such a degree. It's epic really.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 11:09

IcedPurple · Yesterday 11:04

Charles has many faults, but noone familiar with his life believes that racism is one of them. He was into multiculturalism and inclusivity decades before they were a 'thing', and even now gets criticism from certain sectors of the media for being too 'woke'.

I suspect there is much knashing of teeth in Montecito at the fact that the royal visit has been a roaring success. And one they could have been a prominent part of. I honestly can't imagine sabotaging my life, and that of my children, to such a degree. It's epic really.

It is really bizarre and such a shame. Obviously we don't know the man but he seems like a lovely grandad to William's 3 and they seem to adore him. Camilla seems quite hands on too. H's kids world is very small. I do hope they have friends/connections outside their home

JSMill · Yesterday 11:12

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 10:49

Not the point of the thread - in fact there probably needs to be a thread for PR success, as demonstrated by The Royal tour of USA, but I am in awe of Charles and Camilla's stamina. They had a packed schedule, jet lag, a range of events and people to meet and engage with, causes to support. They didn't stop and looked as if they were loving every moment. Now they have a brief 24 hours in Bermuda. They must be exhausted. Hope they have a quiet, restful weekend ahead.

Camilla has gone home. I don’t blame her. I am sure Bermuda is lovely but she must be desperate to put her feet up.

FallenNight · Yesterday 11:35

I wondered where Camilla was when I saw pictures of Charles getting off the plane. I don't blame her either. Though a day at the beach on the way home might have been nice even if she was not there officially doing events!

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 12:22

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 09:39

That's a good point. Being told by someone at school (rather than your parents) that your grandfather is the king who met the president this week. Meanwhile, your reality at home is 2 parents worshipping at the alter of a woman who died 30 years ago.

I doubt very much indeed that kids of that age discuss the visits of a foreign RF at school. Or watch the news.

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 12:47

I don't know.

In the UK, primary school children were doing learning exercises based around VE day. I can imagine that primary aged children in the US might do similar exercises based on 250 years of American independence.
The King's visit to meet the President and celebrate that might be an event discussed in schools, unrelated to A&L.

JSMill · Yesterday 12:49

Is there an American equivalent of Newsround? We put it on for the children in our class at the end of the day. They normally just chat through it but on Wednesday, when they were talking about KC giving the speech in Congress, they were all listening intently. It was quite surprising.

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 12:53

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 12:22

I doubt very much indeed that kids of that age discuss the visits of a foreign RF at school. Or watch the news.

Archie is 7 next week, not a baby. I am sure he understands the rudimentary concepts of “president”, “king” and “grandpa” and “Grandpa King Charles met President Trump”. This is a kid who apparently discusses land mines with his father.

They don’t need to watch the news. They can pick up on adult conversations - my kids had flapping ears at that age. I would be extremely surprised if the parents of Archie’s school mates aren’t talking about what’s happened this week in Congress.

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 13:09

Would primary school aged kids in this country care about what the King of Spain for example was doing? Would they watch and discuss it? Most young adults in the UK couldn’t care less about the monarchy.

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 13:11

JSMill · Yesterday 12:49

Is there an American equivalent of Newsround? We put it on for the children in our class at the end of the day. They normally just chat through it but on Wednesday, when they were talking about KC giving the speech in Congress, they were all listening intently. It was quite surprising.

My eldest was looking at First News at that age, and current affairs issues would be talked about in assembly in terms they could understand. I always got the impression that US kids were drilled on Founding Fathers and the basics of their constitutional set up from an early age. The meaning of 4th July etc.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 13:13

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 12:53

Archie is 7 next week, not a baby. I am sure he understands the rudimentary concepts of “president”, “king” and “grandpa” and “Grandpa King Charles met President Trump”. This is a kid who apparently discusses land mines with his father.

They don’t need to watch the news. They can pick up on adult conversations - my kids had flapping ears at that age. I would be extremely surprised if the parents of Archie’s school mates aren’t talking about what’s happened this week in Congress.

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Yes discussing land mines from age 3 apparently

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 13:16

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 13:09

Would primary school aged kids in this country care about what the King of Spain for example was doing? Would they watch and discuss it? Most young adults in the UK couldn’t care less about the monarchy.

Why are you bringing the King of Spain into it? We’re talking about Archie whose grandpa happens to be the King of the UK, and his classmates who may well be aware of this and curious. And I presume they all know who President Trump is.

Thedom · Yesterday 13:19

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 12:53

Archie is 7 next week, not a baby. I am sure he understands the rudimentary concepts of “president”, “king” and “grandpa” and “Grandpa King Charles met President Trump”. This is a kid who apparently discusses land mines with his father.

They don’t need to watch the news. They can pick up on adult conversations - my kids had flapping ears at that age. I would be extremely surprised if the parents of Archie’s school mates aren’t talking about what’s happened this week in Congress.

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Yes, and this is a kid whose first words were ‘crocodile’ and ‘hydrate’ by the time he was a year old, at age 3 advising his mom not to work too hard, crying over his dads stress levels, and discussing land mines at age 4.

Its not like his grandfather is your average Grandad, he is the King of Great Britain, his address to congress was historic, even if the kids didn’t understand what was being said and if they know little to nothing about their fathers family, it meant they could see they had a grandfather who was a bit important. Very few kids have a grandad who is a King, it’s a very small club.

StrawberryWasp · Yesterday 13:22

It would probably be of interest to kids if a classmates grandad was a king. Like it would be if they were an astronaut or a pop star.

I's interesting.

Kids also hear parents conversations or the news in the car etc they don't have to be studying current affairs.

It's perfectly plausible a 7 year old would say to Archie "your grandad was at the white house yesterday".

It's weird pretend kids have no knowledge or concept of the wider world. How do you think they learn about the world? All of a sudden age 15?

Normal 7 year olds know what a king is, know what a grandad is, and know there's a president.