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The royal family

PR Disasters Part X

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AtIusvue · 29/04/2026 13:09

For all Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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StrawberryWasp · Yesterday 13:24

Yes, and this is a kid whose first words were ‘crocodile’ and ‘hydrate’ by the time he was a year old, at age 3 advising his mom not to work too hard, crying over his dads stress levels, and discussing land mines at age 4.
😂😂

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 13:33

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 13:09

Would primary school aged kids in this country care about what the King of Spain for example was doing? Would they watch and discuss it? Most young adults in the UK couldn’t care less about the monarchy.

No, but my point was more that the King was there at an event that was important to them.

I think UK primary school children would have known about the US president being in London at an event to celebrate VE day.

noonames · Yesterday 13:38

Starryfifty · Yesterday 11:09

It is really bizarre and such a shame. Obviously we don't know the man but he seems like a lovely grandad to William's 3 and they seem to adore him. Camilla seems quite hands on too. H's kids world is very small. I do hope they have friends/connections outside their home

They may have barely any extended family, no cousins, aunts or uncles, no connection to the British half of themselves, no understanding of their place in perhaps the most famous family in the world, no concept of its history, culture, values. BUT… they do have the chocolate man! HOORAY FOR THE CHOCOLATE MAN!

(This is what Meghan seems to be saying anyway.)

Starryfifty · Yesterday 13:49

I come from a very disconnected family. No relationships with my grandparents, cousins etc was ever encouraged and I really paid for it. I have always tried to encourage it with my own children. However, I didn't have the chocolate man !!!!

Different folk coming into the lives of A and L must be very confusing for them

PrinceHarrysBaldPatch · Yesterday 14:06

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 03:53

They are very young children. It would be totally bewildering for them if they were told this man on the TV is your grandfather. They don’t even know what a grandfather is or what that means in their lives. It would confuse them. They are also far too young to understand anything about the function of a RF. It sounds to me like they live very strange, isolated lives in general with little concept about other countries or family life beyond Doria and their parents.

Most of their friends would have at least one grandfather, they know that they are mostly good things to have.
At a similar age, school got our kids all excited about Prince Harry's wedding. It's pretty easy to do. Wouldn't be a stretch to get them excited about a grandad and his being a big cheese.

PrinceHarrysBaldPatch · Yesterday 14:18

Ducklingfeet · Yesterday 09:38

Yes, that's exactly it. She's NOT that good at it. (In her position - or even with a much lower level of fame and wealth - then I would definitely employ a stylist. I love clothes, but I'm not as good at them as a professional stylist would be, and it would save me time as well.)

It's all of a piece with her general attitude to a lot of things. She can put flower sprinkles everywhere, so she must be talented enough to star in her own cookery and lifestyle programme. She can post on social media, so she must be able to do the marketing for a jam company and make it go global. She can sit with people and talk to them, so she must be able to create an awesome series of podcasts. She can do a bit of calligraphy, so she must be a design genius. Etc, etc, etc.

It's not that she's laughably terrible at all these things (in my opinion); I think she is actually better than average at all of them. But she's just not that good. Not nearly good enough to make it as a professional. As Harry's wife, she's been surrounded by people who praise her minor talents and who do their best to help her parlay them - along with her fame - into something successful (because it would benefit them too), but all their help hasn't been enough.

The problem lies in the gap between her actual abilities and her own opinion of those abilities. And (presumably as a result) her reluctance to accept advice or to let go and delegate even small decisions. Because nobody can do things as well as Meghan. (It also means that she spreads her time and attention so thinly across a range of activities that she never actually puts the deep work into becoming truly good at any of them.)

I would think this is the real reason behind the lack of stylist. A stylist isn't even that expensive.

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I don't think she's good at talking to people, or listening to them. She comes across as being terrible at it, quite frankly; worse than anyone I've ever met. She's not only completely disinterested in others but also quite dull and boring (not to mention nonsensical). She has a (in my opinion) a beautiful face from several angles, but that's it.

AtIusvue · Yesterday 14:21

Very good points about the kids exposure to Megs celeb/business connections…..but not family. It’s very weird.

I did a bit of reading on compartes chocolate. So bought over by a rich family like was said up thread. They pivoted to doing limited edition drops and collabs and that’s now what they are known for. On trust pilot they have a terrible reputation for delivery times, bad customer service and a particular problem with their corporate chocolate dept.

I can see why Meg has attached herself to this guy. He is all about using influencers/Tik tok, Instagram etc to push limited edition drops. It’s all hype. This will be her new bestie no doubt. Its very transparent.

Also, as if the kids wouldn’t know that their grandparents are on the news!!! If my granny was in the local gazette…id bloody know as a kid even if I hadnt seen it.

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AprilMizzel · Yesterday 14:21

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 13:09

Would primary school aged kids in this country care about what the King of Spain for example was doing? Would they watch and discuss it? Most young adults in the UK couldn’t care less about the monarchy.

If the King of Spain did something that got news headlines might come up in school assemblies or lessons. Remember one primary school assembly had was on piper alpha disaster - I was around 10 at time google tells me - because it was in the news.

Brexit, solar eclipse, diamond jubilee, local chartist commemorative marches - anniveraries of world wars - both primary schools my kids went to were all over them putting them in context - talking about them.

The 250 th anniversary and Kings speach to congress do seem to be grabbing some US headlines. BBC Newsround is aimed at 6- 12 years old - so while the younger girl is possibly too young if the boy was in UK he'd be seeing news and news topics and big events would be coming up in school.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Yesterday 14:23

I have some pretty cool ancestors. More than one important bishop, a physician to the Tsar, and some pretty key moments of history - a lordly ancestors was a key mover in Lady Jane Grey's brief queenship. Another ancestor told Queen Victoria to get tae fuck, essentially.

I found them fascinating, even when I was young! And I'm not even very closely related to the modern day Viscount (it would take a Kind Hearts and Coronets level of intrigue to get me anywhere near that!).

IcedPurple · Yesterday 14:37

noonames · Yesterday 13:38

They may have barely any extended family, no cousins, aunts or uncles, no connection to the British half of themselves, no understanding of their place in perhaps the most famous family in the world, no concept of its history, culture, values. BUT… they do have the chocolate man! HOORAY FOR THE CHOCOLATE MAN!

(This is what Meghan seems to be saying anyway.)

Yes, it's all a bit sad, isn't some?

Some 'chocolate guy' who is a business associate, not family and not really a friend. Then the disembodied voice and back of head of her 4 year old daughter somewhere in the chicken coop. What really was the point of this video?

Mistyglade · Yesterday 14:38

Ohpleeeease · 29/04/2026 17:09

I don’t often feel sorry for H but he must get his ear bent daily on how he needs to fix everything for his wife. I have said since Day One that he was in for a difficult marriage and I stand by that.

The only thing I feel sorry for in the whole sorry spectacle of these two is his left arm for being grabbed, clutched and hung off of. It actually makes me wince watching her grab him like a leech.

NedsAtomicWheelieBin · Yesterday 15:00

I think it's really sad that the kids have 2 living grandfathers that they won't know but even more so that one of them is the King. I can see this backfiring on H&M and they may well want to be part of the extended family after such a sheltered upbringing.

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 15:23

Indianrollerbird · Yesterday 12:53

Archie is 7 next week, not a baby. I am sure he understands the rudimentary concepts of “president”, “king” and “grandpa” and “Grandpa King Charles met President Trump”. This is a kid who apparently discusses land mines with his father.

They don’t need to watch the news. They can pick up on adult conversations - my kids had flapping ears at that age. I would be extremely surprised if the parents of Archie’s school mates aren’t talking about what’s happened this week in Congress.

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If I had a child in Archie’s class I couldn’t resist a little mischief, making sure my child knew all about the King’s visit and that the King is Archie’s grandfather. I’d be telling my child to ask if Archie ever sees his grandfather and if not why not. 😉

And seriously - this sort of event might well be discussed at school, in assembly or whatever. How do H&M think they can hide it all from the children and ignore the historic events? Will they tell the school that any discussion of the Royal family/King’s visit is banned? They can switch off the TV but they can’t switch off the questions.

I can’t wait for the teenage rebellion because surely as the children get older they will see their cousins having fun together at Christmas etc and wonder why they are left out and wish they had some relatives to play with.

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 15:38

A round up of clips from Harry’s early life and times before his marriage. Lots of fun times at Balmoral, tender moments with Charles, a fishing lesson with Charles, joshing with William and the cousins.
This is what he has lost and what his children will never have.

I can’t believe he doesn’t miss it and regret the loss for his children on those occasions when he opens up the memory box of his past. Really very sad.

https://x.com/nancytsidley/status/2044838965195550748/video/1?s=46

Nancy Sidley (@nancytsidley) on X

Harry had no idea his life was miserable until Meghan Markle told him he could get paid for it.

https://x.com/nancytsidley/status/2044838965195550748

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Yesterday 15:47

To be fair, if he can't remember his mum, he can hardly be expected to remember all that.

AprilMizzel · Yesterday 15:49

If I had a child in Archie’s class I couldn’t resist a little mischief, making sure my child knew all about the King’s visit and that the King is Archie’s grandfather. I’d be telling my child to ask if Archie ever sees his grandfather and if not why not. 😉

Thankfully most adults wouldn't upset a six year old who may have a lot to contend with at home anyway.

Throwing a remark to the parents I could see happening but don't know if they do regular school pickups.

As to whether they rebel in teen years - well may not happen - and I think from very limited amount seen there are issues with their parenting but doesn't mean the kids will rebel thay may well get FOG - fear obligation and guilt - drilled into them and spend their adult days being distant and unpicking that or desperatly sucking up and trying to please or they may well be great parents and that's not coming across via media.

Also you don't tend to miss what you haven't ever had - so their normal with likely be their nuclear family. I grew up rarely seeing any of my cousins and that was our normal and same with my kids - but we have friends who cousins are very much a part of their everyday lives - ironically like Dad and IL had. So could well just be interesting background when they are older - depens what they do in life.

I think Harry missed his family and friends now the shine of new life has rubbed off - whether he understands its as a result of his own actions or puts it under his persecution complex who knows . I don't think Meghan had a great family background - so again what she views as normal or desirable is going to be different.

HoldMyWine · Yesterday 16:11

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 15:38

A round up of clips from Harry’s early life and times before his marriage. Lots of fun times at Balmoral, tender moments with Charles, a fishing lesson with Charles, joshing with William and the cousins.
This is what he has lost and what his children will never have.

I can’t believe he doesn’t miss it and regret the loss for his children on those occasions when he opens up the memory box of his past. Really very sad.

https://x.com/nancytsidley/status/2044838965195550748/video/1?s=46

He really is a silly boy. Throwing all that away.
I just read on X that Meghan is planning on her H renewing their vows. I do hope it is true!

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 16:28

IcedPurple · Yesterday 14:37

Yes, it's all a bit sad, isn't some?

Some 'chocolate guy' who is a business associate, not family and not really a friend. Then the disembodied voice and back of head of her 4 year old daughter somewhere in the chicken coop. What really was the point of this video?

Just incredibly bizarre. What the hell is a chocolate man?

SixSevenShutUp · Yesterday 16:34

HoldMyWine · Yesterday 16:11

He really is a silly boy. Throwing all that away.
I just read on X that Meghan is planning on her H renewing their vows. I do hope it is true!

The guest list will be interesting. I wonder if anyone from the 'spectacle' will be invited?

IcedPurple · Yesterday 16:41

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 16:28

Just incredibly bizarre. What the hell is a chocolate man?

She says 'Compartes is here', so it must be someone from that corporate chocolate company 'As Ever' works with.

But why on earth upload this to your public Insta page? Is his presence supposed to be some kind of 'win'? Are we meant to be interested in her poultry or the back of her daughter's head? Or what?

Set against the King and Queen's diplomatic triumph on the east coast, it is indeed bizarre.

PullTheBricksDown · Yesterday 16:46

SixSevenShutUp · Yesterday 16:34

The guest list will be interesting. I wonder if anyone from the 'spectacle' will be invited?

I really hope this is true. I'd love seeing what their special private non-spectacle renewal ceremony would be like. As obviously,it would both be incredibly private, and also we'd all hear about every purposeful, meaningful detail.

Grrrpredictivetex · Yesterday 16:58

It may have come and gone and I completely missed it, what happened to the collab with the flower company?

Ducklingfeet · Yesterday 17:15

PrinceHarrysBaldPatch · Yesterday 14:18

I don't think she's good at talking to people, or listening to them. She comes across as being terrible at it, quite frankly; worse than anyone I've ever met. She's not only completely disinterested in others but also quite dull and boring (not to mention nonsensical). She has a (in my opinion) a beautiful face from several angles, but that's it.

Yes, actually, I don't think she is any good at genuinely talking to people or listening to them. But I do think that she is better than most people at presenting herself and seeming confident and polished in interactions (acting training). The surface is good, but the content is lacking. Same thing with the fluent but meaningless word salads.

Scorchio84 · Yesterday 17:18

HoldMyWine · Yesterday 16:11

He really is a silly boy. Throwing all that away.
I just read on X that Meghan is planning on her H renewing their vows. I do hope it is true!

Just saw that myself! Christ 😂🙈

Starryfifty · Yesterday 17:22

LaurenBacal · Yesterday 16:28

Just incredibly bizarre. What the hell is a chocolate man?

I'm honestly baffled. Is she selling something?? As for chocolate man ffs