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PR Disasters- Part 9

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AtIusvue · 21/04/2026 15:31

PR disasters of Meghan and Harry.

Left off at the last page with Meg selling candles to people who want to know what her young children smell like. She’s also using the kids full titles in the press release….just for a dash of extra exploitation.

As you were

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FallenNight · Today 13:12

bluegreygreen · Today 13:08

That Meghan realising William would be in charge of their finances for the rest of their lives gives credence to reports I’ve seen somewhere or other (maybe in one of the books) that they/Harry wanted to share the Duchy of Cornwall.
How could that even work? The Duchy involves management, having an overall plan - Charles was all about the environment, William is looking at housing. It has to be a one man gig. Though I don’t suppose they would have been interested in the management side of it. They just wanted half the proceeds.

Not to mention the fact that even if it were allowed (it wouldn't be!) it's still typically short-term thinking. The Duchy of Cornwall is for the use of the heir, so they would have had no income as soon as William became king and George was Duke of Cornwall.

Yes, its difficult and unfair when siblings are treated differently but its how the aristocracy hold on to their money. The eldest gets it all. Split it and the money disappears very quickly dispersed amongst many. Harry has benefitted from that system all his life. Now he wants to change it when suddently it is not working in his favor anymore.

MrsLeonFarrell · Today 13:16

KatherineParr · Today 12:22

What do Invictus get out of Harry going to Ukraine? Might be a daft question but I don't see why they would fund it. Confused

I seem to remember reading that Invictus is very popular in Ukraine. Which makes sense, a country that has been plunged into a war that has left and is leaving many of their young people with horrific injuries. Invictus offers a positive future and encouragement for their rehabilitation. I'm not sure why the paraolympics hasn't got the same cache, maybe it's because Invictus focuses on ex service people.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 13:18

Could someone Archive this please ?

PR Disasters- Part 9
IcedPurple · Today 13:20

TheAutumnCrow · Today 11:39

A poster on Reddit has linked to a substack from a very reputable entertainment reporter, one who the Sussex’s have previously used for their PR. It really lays it all out. Probably could do with a separate thread.

The Truth About Harry & Meghan's Empire "They Are Wildly Unhappy"

Thanks for posting this, @Thedom. I’ve read it all now, over your series of posts.

I think it’s a good read but there are nevertheless a couple of potentially significant gaps in the discussion IMO. First, their (mis)use of their children for merching Meg’s gratis stock.

Second, and crucially, the piece underplays what many see in H&M: their personality disorders. H’s spiteful nature for example affects nearly everything he does and nearly every decision he makes. Without understanding that, it’s impossible to unpick his motives and actions.

I also disagree that Meghan's dream is to be another Lauren Sanchez.

Sanchez is widely mocked and ridiculed and appears not to give a fiddler's. She has her man and her money, so why should she care about some loser on Twitter? By contrast, Meghan wants to be adored, envied and looked up to. She can never resist the urge to clap back at every single little slight. That's one of the many reasons she would never attract a man like Bezos. The mega rich are't interested in trivial media shenanigans.

bluegreygreen · Today 13:23

@Mylovelygreendress Your wish is my command

https://archive.is/inmnm

ShamedBySiri · Today 13:26

Mylovelygreendress · Today 13:00

Did H himself not allude to the suggestion of them jointly running the Duchy ? Am sure I read that somewhere .

It’s definitely been mentioned somewhere, can’t remember where.
Apart from anything else I’ve never seen any evidence of Harry having the interest or ability to run a vast estate. Charles and now William meet tenant farmers for instance, there will be a lot of behind the scenes work that goes on. Like it or hate it, Charles had the vision to create Poundbury. I remember seeing Camilla attending some social event with tenants. Harry wouldn’t have a clue and Meghan certainly wouldn’t be interested.

bluegreygreen · Today 13:27

I don't think it really says anything new @Mylovelygreendress

jeffgoldblum · Today 13:29

Yes @Mylovelygreendress, I’ve read it and as @bluegreygreensays it’s nothing new , just a clickbait title and bollocks .

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 13:30

The cynic in me says that suddenly Ukraine is getting a 90 billion euro EU loan (announced this week owing to the new Hungarian government lifting their veto) and Harry has hot footed it over there to see if some of the cash could go to Invictus

you beat me to it, @Lunde - I was just about to write much the same in response to @KatherineParr's question Smile

The "excuse" will be that Ukraine's involvement in Invictus means that they need his input, but as you suggested I strongly suspect it's more a case of him seeing someone else's new money and hoping to tap it for himself

The expenditure on the published accounts may be split into a very simple "raising funds" and "charitable activities", but like so many I'd be fascinated to see a deeper dive into those numbers

Lunde · Today 13:33

FallenNight · Today 13:12

Yes, its difficult and unfair when siblings are treated differently but its how the aristocracy hold on to their money. The eldest gets it all. Split it and the money disappears very quickly dispersed amongst many. Harry has benefitted from that system all his life. Now he wants to change it when suddently it is not working in his favor anymore.

IIRC just as the Queen gave all her children properties - Charles offered to give Harry and Meghan a country estate but they turned it down

IcedPurple · Today 13:34

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Today 12:49

Well, Skims was launched as Kimono, which got slammed.

And they listened and did a massive pivot to Skims. This could have been on purpose but I don't think it was - I think they knew making billions was more important to them than it was to make the decisions themselves.

There's also the little fact that KK has literally 100 times more Instagram followers than Meghan.

Tiddlywinks63 · Today 13:40

HoldMyWine · Today 07:24

Apparently Hazza has just turned up in Kyiv again. He wants to make sure the world doesn’t forget about Ukraine ( and him of course).

Nothing to do with it being Prince George’s birthday then?
He’s absolutely determined to butt in isn’t he? Can’t bear being out of the limelight/press. Attention seeking prat.

shockthemonkey · Today 13:41

I agree that piece from Richard Eden is not telling us much we didn't already know... except maybe for this intriguing quote:

A friend of the royals tells me: ‘Their Majesties will not see Harry and Meghan while they are in the States, but don’t read anything into that. The King hopes to see more of his son and spend time with his grandchildren. This will happen in Britain before long.’

The main question being, a friend of which royals tells you? Because I could imagine it coming from Montecito, which means we can only give it very limited credence. Plus, I can see Harry wanting this, and can see him saying his father wants this... but would Meghan even be on board?

On the other hand it would be both more credible, and more surprising, if this friend of the royals was close to, and speaking about, Charles. In that instance, would Camilla ever be involved in such a rapprochement? I don't think so.

So it seems not at all obvious who is sending out this message, Harry or Charles, and how much it is based on an attainable future reality.

TheAutumnCrow · Today 13:44

That Meghan realising William would be in charge of their finances for the rest of their lives gives credence to reports I’ve seen somewhere or other (maybe in one of the books) that they/Harry wanted to share the Duchy of Cornwall.
How could that even work? The Duchy involves management, having an overall plan - Charles was all about the environment, William is looking at housing. It has to be a one man gig. Though I don’t suppose they would have been interested in the management side of it. They just wanted half the proceeds.

In my head:

"Ok, Harold, so here's the deal. As long as I'm Duke of Cornwall, I'll give you and Meghan 25% of the net as an allowance. The net, Harold. <Sighs> Go and look it up, for god's sake. Anyway, 25% is very generous. I expect you to live good lives and invest sensibly. No more bail outs, I'm afraid. You don't meddle with the Duchy - that's off limits to both of you.

"However - are you listening, Harold, this bit is bloody important, yeah? For each and every time either you Meghan breach one of the Nolan Principles of Public Life - no Harold, put google away, I've arranged a separate briefing for you - you will immediately lose 2%. If both of you are involved, that's a 4% loss. This will be cumulative, without limit. Are you listening? And you will both sign this contract, with your solicitors as witnesses, as well as watertight NDAs.

"Please don't pretend you don't know what an NDA is, Harold. We both know you are intimately acquainted with the concept.

"What happens if you don't agree? You get nothing. If you agree and make a success of things, we'll look at the other Duchy when the time comes.

"Oh, and Harold? Stay away from George."

Starryfifty · Today 13:45

shockthemonkey · Today 13:41

I agree that piece from Richard Eden is not telling us much we didn't already know... except maybe for this intriguing quote:

A friend of the royals tells me: ‘Their Majesties will not see Harry and Meghan while they are in the States, but don’t read anything into that. The King hopes to see more of his son and spend time with his grandchildren. This will happen in Britain before long.’

The main question being, a friend of which royals tells you? Because I could imagine it coming from Montecito, which means we can only give it very limited credence. Plus, I can see Harry wanting this, and can see him saying his father wants this... but would Meghan even be on board?

On the other hand it would be both more credible, and more surprising, if this friend of the royals was close to, and speaking about, Charles. In that instance, would Camilla ever be involved in such a rapprochement? I don't think so.

So it seems not at all obvious who is sending out this message, Harry or Charles, and how much it is based on an attainable future reality.

No way Meg will be excluded. Not a chance Harry and kids will go to UK without her

HoldMyWine · Today 13:58

Tiddlywinks63 · Today 13:40

Nothing to do with it being Prince George’s birthday then?
He’s absolutely determined to butt in isn’t he? Can’t bear being out of the limelight/press. Attention seeking prat.

Oh wow I didn’t think of that! Geez he is a snake.

LaurenBacal · Today 14:13

HoldMyWine · Today 13:58

Oh wow I didn’t think of that! Geez he is a snake.

It’s very predictable. They are both eaten up with jealousy and spite.

TheAutumnCrow · Today 14:14

Rachel's You Tube channel that I mentioned earlier.

Invictus: Where Is All the Money Going?

Rachel the Pilot is suspicious of the nearly $11 million for accommodation and catering plus a lot of other things. Of course we're all having to guess at the detail behind the headlines because Invictus aren't saying. But she has an interesting theory or two about where the money's going.

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Her website that takes the piss out of A Server:

https://montecitominimalist.com/

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TheAutumnCrow · Today 14:21

LaurenBacal · Today 14:13

It’s very predictable. They are both eaten up with jealousy and spite.

And this is what makes analysis of their 'business model' so tricky. These are people with apparent personality disorders and if you don't factor that in from the start, you get slop as an analysis. The royal correspondent crowd and PR class are way out of their depth here. I'm not saying they need the skills of the FBI BAU, but the current naivety and/or silence around it is frustrating.

Starryfifty · Today 14:27

TheAutumnCrow · Today 14:14

Rachel's You Tube channel that I mentioned earlier.

Invictus: Where Is All the Money Going?

Rachel the Pilot is suspicious of the nearly $11 million for accommodation and catering plus a lot of other things. Of course we're all having to guess at the detail behind the headlines because Invictus aren't saying. But she has an interesting theory or two about where the money's going.

s

Her website that takes the piss out of A Server:

https://montecitominimalist.com/

Maureen Callaghan calls it A Sever 😂

They really are a joke

BasiliskStare · Today 14:31

I wonder what we have in store from Montecito when C&C make their state visit

Harry really needs to learn when to keep quiet. If he wants to lose their titles I reckon mouthing off about global political situations & lecturing the US is a quicker way of doing it than faux royal tours. I just don't think he has the sense he was born with. Nor has he clocked he used to be able to prince about saying (vetted) things because he was part of the WRF. Harry those days are gone because you made it so. But on he goes.

LaurenBacal · Today 14:39

I actually believe now that they are doing all of this deliberately to wind the RF up and force them to either give them a generous allowance or let them back into the fold to live in a free house with an allowance from Pa.

I don’t think they give a shit what they do to get what they want or how they are perceived, they want to create Maximim Embarrassment and derail the RF any way they can. It’s blackmail basically. Pay us off Or Else.

Starryfifty · Today 14:45

LaurenBacal · Today 14:39

I actually believe now that they are doing all of this deliberately to wind the RF up and force them to either give them a generous allowance or let them back into the fold to live in a free house with an allowance from Pa.

I don’t think they give a shit what they do to get what they want or how they are perceived, they want to create Maximim Embarrassment and derail the RF any way they can. It’s blackmail basically. Pay us off Or Else.

I tend to agree with you. I would imagine panic mode is setting in regarding finances. KC is a fool. Cut them off completely is the only way. Without sounding harsh, any relationship between harry, his kids and KC, probably too late now, given KC health

BasiliskStare · Today 14:45

I think you could be right actually @LaurenBacal . I do wonder though if by doing so , and cheapening their "brand" , making themselves look foolish , and becoming less of a threat , actually the RF might very well be tempted to carry on standing back and doing absolutely nothing, just waiting for them to become less and less relevant.

TheAutumnCrow · Today 14:47

These are the nations/teams/who knows what they are or who they actually represent, eligible to compete in Invictus 2027 in Birmingham, UK.

  • Afghanistan (Team AFG)
  • Australia (Team AUS)
  • Belgium (Team BEL)
  • Brazil (Team BRA)
  • Canada (Team CAN)
  • Colombia (Team COL)
  • Denmark (Team DEN)
  • Estonia (Team EST)
  • France (Team FRA)
  • Georgia (Team GEO)
  • Germany (Team GER)
  • Iraq (Team IRQ)
  • Israel (Team ISR)
  • Italy (Team ITA)
  • Jordan (Team JOR)
  • Lithuania (Team LTU)
  • Netherlands (Team NED)
  • New Zealand (Team NZL)
  • Nigeria (Team NGR)
  • Poland (Team POL)
  • Republic of Korea (Team KOR)
  • Romania (Team ROM)
  • Ukraine (Team UKR)
  • United Kingdom (Team UK)
  • United States (Team U.S.)
  • "Unconquered" (Team UNC - international team)

How can 'Team AFG (Afghanistan)' represent Afghanistan and the current country? Who is in the team? Who sponsors them? Should it be called 'Team AFG' at all? Are they not 'Team NATO Against The Taliban', with a clear political mission? Same question of some of the other countries with whom NATO and the UK & allies have a sticky diplomatic relationship.

Harry is incapable of handling this brief, if he even understands it, as evidenced by his current trip to Ukraine (the UK, US and Ukraine are all Invictus members) and recent jaunt in Jordan (Jordan and Israel are both Invictus members).

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