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PR Disasters- Part 9

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AtIusvue · 21/04/2026 15:31

PR disasters of Meghan and Harry.

Left off at the last page with Meg selling candles to people who want to know what her young children smell like. She’s also using the kids full titles in the press release….just for a dash of extra exploitation.

As you were

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IcedPurple · Yesterday 11:32

HoldMyWine · Yesterday 07:24

Apparently Hazza has just turned up in Kyiv again. He wants to make sure the world doesn’t forget about Ukraine ( and him of course).

For someone supposedly concerned about the environmental impact of flying, he does an awful lot of it. Two long-distance flights in as many weeks.

And for someone who complained about how his own parents were often absent, he has no problem being continents away from his own children.

TheAutumnCrow · Yesterday 11:39

A poster on Reddit has linked to a substack from a very reputable entertainment reporter, one who the Sussex’s have previously used for their PR. It really lays it all out. Probably could do with a separate thread.

The Truth About Harry & Meghan's Empire "They Are Wildly Unhappy"

Thanks for posting this, @Thedom. I’ve read it all now, over your series of posts.

I think it’s a good read but there are nevertheless a couple of potentially significant gaps in the discussion IMO. First, their (mis)use of their children for merching Meg’s gratis stock.

Second, and crucially, the piece underplays what many see in H&M: their personality disorders. H’s spiteful nature for example affects nearly everything he does and nearly every decision he makes. Without understanding that, it’s impossible to unpick his motives and actions.

IcedPurple · Yesterday 11:40

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 22/04/2026 17:45

But Skins is actually good, and filled a void in the market. The Kardashians are very savvy.

Another crucial difference is that a shapewear line is right on brand for KK.

She's a voluptuous (!) woman known for attending events in slinky outfits. So a shapewear line like Skims (great name!) makes perfect sense. And as others have said, the products are actually good. That matters. A celeb brand might get initial interest out of curiosity, but if the products aren't up to scratch there won't be repeat purchases, especially in the current economic climate.

In Meghan's case, aaside from the fact that the whole 'lifestyle' thing is very 2009, who really associates her with cooking or gardening? The whole thing seems very contrived. Plus, the products appear to be generic and random, no different from what you could get in any supermarket for a fraction of the price. I see it as more of a vanity project than a serious, profitable business.

drivinmecrazy · Yesterday 11:53

I am flabbergasted at Harold today.
nothing more I can say.
He needs to be cut off and cut down.
his addled brain is in danger of putting UK at risk.
how very dare he say that he urges trump to step in and take leadership.
has he been witnessing a different world to that in what we live in.
ive never been a particular advocate for having his titles stripped, but it really needs to be done PDQ!!

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 11:53

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 11:16

He's representing Invictus, not the UK.

When he went to Australia, there were no government receptions. When he went to Jordan, he didn't have an audience with the King (the WHO leader he went with did).

I agree he's not helpful, but governments aren't stupid.

Spot on once again, bluegreygreen, though representing Invictus makes me wonder once again if they've paid for him to go

Given how most of his charity involvements have turned out I'm absolutely convinced there'll be more to come on that, but time will tell

elessar · Yesterday 12:00

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 11:53

Spot on once again, bluegreygreen, though representing Invictus makes me wonder once again if they've paid for him to go

Given how most of his charity involvements have turned out I'm absolutely convinced there'll be more to come on that, but time will tell

Harry’s not going to pick up his own bills, god forbid! Praying for the day an insider at Invictus speaks up or an investigative journalist does an exposé on the goings on. I bet most of the budget goes on funding the pampered prince on his ego trips

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 12:06

Treylime · Yesterday 10:58

This meddling in politics is the most out of order thing he does. He should not be visiting places like Ukraine and shooting his mouth off on political issues.

He is just another minor celebrity convinced that his own simplistic grasp, of what are actually very complex, issues should be welcomed with awe and obeyed instantly by politicians. He gets press here because of who he used to be, i wonder if he causes a much as a tiny ripple elsewhere.

Thedom · Yesterday 12:06

When Harry says ‘remind the people back home’ I assume he is talking about the US, has he overlooked the small matter of their own war !

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 12:07

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 11:03

True - but, the fact that despite this being his third visit to Ukraine there are still no photos of him with Zelensky suggests that everyone is very clearly aware via diplomatic channels that he has no formal role.

And Charles has met with Zelensky fairly recently. No one is confused as to who is important and who isn't.

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 12:08

Thedom · Yesterday 12:06

When Harry says ‘remind the people back home’ I assume he is talking about the US, has he overlooked the small matter of their own war !

I doubt he knows what he is talking about.

Thedom · Yesterday 12:10

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 12:08

I doubt he knows what he is talking about.

😂😂😂😂 Touché

KatherineParr · Yesterday 12:22

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 11:53

Spot on once again, bluegreygreen, though representing Invictus makes me wonder once again if they've paid for him to go

Given how most of his charity involvements have turned out I'm absolutely convinced there'll be more to come on that, but time will tell

What do Invictus get out of Harry going to Ukraine? Might be a daft question but I don't see why they would fund it. Confused

TheAutumnCrow · Yesterday 12:25

elessar · Yesterday 12:00

Harry’s not going to pick up his own bills, god forbid! Praying for the day an insider at Invictus speaks up or an investigative journalist does an exposé on the goings on. I bet most of the budget goes on funding the pampered prince on his ego trips

There’s a You Tuber called Rachel (the airline pilot one, who also does a sideline in sardonic Montecito ‘gifts’ and seems to have a good business brain), who has just done a video on the Invictus financial questions.

I’ll see if I can link it after I’ve watched it all.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:27

KatherineParr · Yesterday 12:22

What do Invictus get out of Harry going to Ukraine? Might be a daft question but I don't see why they would fund it. Confused

Same. Makes absolutely no sense to me

TheAutumnCrow · Yesterday 12:40

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:27

Same. Makes absolutely no sense to me

None of the ‘Invictus Family’ model makes any sense to me. There are now teams representing militaries and nations that are actively at war, and/or steeped in enmity toward each other.

You have Invictus teams that semi-officially ‘represent’ their countries, and Invictus teams that can’t and/or don’t.

God knows what state the accounts are in and what financial shenanigans lie beneath the surface.

It’s a muddled and murky mess, and don’t even get me started on Johnny bloody Mercer. Another alleged member of the grifty class.

Jellybelly80 · Yesterday 12:43

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 12:06

He is just another minor celebrity convinced that his own simplistic grasp, of what are actually very complex, issues should be welcomed with awe and obeyed instantly by politicians. He gets press here because of who he used to be, i wonder if he causes a much as a tiny ripple elsewhere.

We never hear about them in the part of the world where I live.

Lunde · Yesterday 12:48

Guest385 · Yesterday 07:42

It’s exhausting, don’t forget me and the good I can do. Wonder who’s paying for this trip, Invictus?

The cynic in me says that suddenly Ukraine is getting a 90 billion euro EU loan (announced this week owing to the new Hungarian government lifting their veto) and Harry has hot footed it over there to see if some of the cash could go to Invictus.

Did Harry not go home after Australia? It's odd that after all of the "therapy speak" in Aus about his son missing him and crying about "stress" - yet he has chosen to leave them again having been away for over a week.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · Yesterday 12:49

IcedPurple · Yesterday 11:40

Another crucial difference is that a shapewear line is right on brand for KK.

She's a voluptuous (!) woman known for attending events in slinky outfits. So a shapewear line like Skims (great name!) makes perfect sense. And as others have said, the products are actually good. That matters. A celeb brand might get initial interest out of curiosity, but if the products aren't up to scratch there won't be repeat purchases, especially in the current economic climate.

In Meghan's case, aaside from the fact that the whole 'lifestyle' thing is very 2009, who really associates her with cooking or gardening? The whole thing seems very contrived. Plus, the products appear to be generic and random, no different from what you could get in any supermarket for a fraction of the price. I see it as more of a vanity project than a serious, profitable business.

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Well, Skims was launched as Kimono, which got slammed.

And they listened and did a massive pivot to Skims. This could have been on purpose but I don't think it was - I think they knew making billions was more important to them than it was to make the decisions themselves.

Lunde · Yesterday 12:50

AtIusvue · Yesterday 08:08

Seen that @Thedom

The only thing I disagreed with was that they got $60 million from NF. They wouldn’t be struggling if they had that amount. I think they got 20-30 million.

but we can all see that they can’t possibly maintain that lifestyle. Weve mentioned it frequently on here.

interesting that the have multiple mortgages though! Thats surely sign something’s up isn’t it?

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I agree - I don't think they produced enough to get the full $100 million

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 12:51

What Meghan Actually Wants
^^
Something else entirely. “Deep down Meghan wants to be like Lauren Sanchez, living her best life at couture shows. She wants to be a princess who’s invited to Chanel, but she’s not,’ says an insider. The departure from the royal family, UK sources say, was catalyzed by a specific realization: that her finances would be managed by Prince William eventually. When she realized that William was going to be in charge of how much they were getting for the rest of their lives, she wanted out.” However a source close to Meghan says this is untrue.
The couple’s goals have quietly diverged. Harry wants privacy and reconciliation. Meghan wants scale, visibility, and reinvention. “She would never allow” the quieter life Harry craves. Borkowski captures the divergence bluntly: “Harry is now a proper spare, to Meghan, because they are both going off in different directions. They are both hungry for attention, but different types.”

That Meghan realising William would be in charge of their finances for the rest of their lives gives credence to reports I’ve seen somewhere or other (maybe in one of the books) that they/Harry wanted to share the Duchy of Cornwall.
How could that even work? The Duchy involves management, having an overall plan - Charles was all about the environment, William is looking at housing. It has to be a one man gig. Though I don’t suppose they would have been interested in the management side of it. They just wanted half the proceeds. 🙄

Lunde · Yesterday 12:55

Starryfifty · Yesterday 08:57

Do the RF have to send anyone ? Have RF had any attendance in the past ?

The first Invictus in London in 2014 had Charles, Camilla and William attending IIRC Catherine was pregnant with Charlotte and being treated for Hyperemesis gravidarum so did not attend

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 12:55

Sickening, arrogant twat!
yes let’s piss of Putin ( while putting the target on the U.K.) and ask trump to step in ( and probably goad him into giving Ukraine to his buddy Putin for the sake of peace )

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IcedPurple · Yesterday 12:59

Lunde · Yesterday 12:50

I agree - I don't think they produced enough to get the full $100 million

There's no way that amount of money was even on the table. Certainly not as a sum that the Sussexes would actually 'get'. At most it would have been a production deal, out of which all costs would have to be paid. But I don't think it was even that. NF don't go around handing out vast sums to anyone without them coming up with content. Let alone a pair with no background in the field.

I think most of the vast sumes these two are allegedly paid are fiction. Someone said Meghan got over 100k for her apperance at the 'Her Best Life' event last week. Given the low attendance, and the rather 'budget' vibe of the event, there's no way that can possibly be true.

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 13:00

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 12:51

What Meghan Actually Wants
^^
Something else entirely. “Deep down Meghan wants to be like Lauren Sanchez, living her best life at couture shows. She wants to be a princess who’s invited to Chanel, but she’s not,’ says an insider. The departure from the royal family, UK sources say, was catalyzed by a specific realization: that her finances would be managed by Prince William eventually. When she realized that William was going to be in charge of how much they were getting for the rest of their lives, she wanted out.” However a source close to Meghan says this is untrue.
The couple’s goals have quietly diverged. Harry wants privacy and reconciliation. Meghan wants scale, visibility, and reinvention. “She would never allow” the quieter life Harry craves. Borkowski captures the divergence bluntly: “Harry is now a proper spare, to Meghan, because they are both going off in different directions. They are both hungry for attention, but different types.”

That Meghan realising William would be in charge of their finances for the rest of their lives gives credence to reports I’ve seen somewhere or other (maybe in one of the books) that they/Harry wanted to share the Duchy of Cornwall.
How could that even work? The Duchy involves management, having an overall plan - Charles was all about the environment, William is looking at housing. It has to be a one man gig. Though I don’t suppose they would have been interested in the management side of it. They just wanted half the proceeds. 🙄

Did H himself not allude to the suggestion of them jointly running the Duchy ? Am sure I read that somewhere .

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 13:08

That Meghan realising William would be in charge of their finances for the rest of their lives gives credence to reports I’ve seen somewhere or other (maybe in one of the books) that they/Harry wanted to share the Duchy of Cornwall.
How could that even work? The Duchy involves management, having an overall plan - Charles was all about the environment, William is looking at housing. It has to be a one man gig. Though I don’t suppose they would have been interested in the management side of it. They just wanted half the proceeds.

Not to mention the fact that even if it were allowed (it wouldn't be!) it's still typically short-term thinking. The Duchy of Cornwall is for the use of the heir, so they would have had no income as soon as William became king and George was Duke of Cornwall.