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The royal family

PR Disasters….Part 8

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AtIusvue · 15/04/2026 09:57

PR Disasters of the The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continued :

  • So far we have Meg using charity events/sick children/vulnerable adults to merch her fashion, with the launch of her new fashion platform
  • She will be appearing on MasterChef Australia
  • Harry claiming to have had therapy when Archie was born, even though he never sought MH help for his ill wife a few short months earlier.
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jeffgoldblum · 16/04/2026 11:48

TheAutumnCrow · 16/04/2026 11:41

Btw, I was posting on another thread how 'I have hidden the 'Sex' board [on MN] ... as it's full of weird male fetishists who are very obviously sitting at a screen typing with just one hand iyswim. Absolutely revolting.'

Mumsnet is not a 'mumsy' place - it is a business, and we are the product. Our conversations on here are the product. Some parts of the site will not suit each individual and it is possible to hide threads and boards.

I come here because I find the calibre of most of the comments on the RF board to be better (and wittier) than what's written in the BLT comments (and often by the journalists themselves) in the press. It tends to be pretty grown up on the whole. No-one is forced to read posts or forced to engage. If someone wants to say Meghan looks 22 and post AI images of her 'in support', effectively reducing her worth to her looks, then they can, knowing that such public behaviour is on them.

I'm more interested in the shenanigans of the Head of State of this country and Realms. I'm not orginally from the UK - it is my adoptive home - and I'm of mixed ethnicity. I am very fond of this country and its people and I found M&H's egregious lies in pursuit of their mission to tradduce it quite disgusting, actually. I spent a couple of years waiting for them to speak out about Andrew and his victims - but crickets. Their silence on the whole York debacle says such a lot.

Wow off topic @TheAutumnCrowbut I’ve been posting beside you for years and never would have guessed you weren’t from the U.K. originally, I won’t be nosy and ask where though because obviously it’s not my business or relevant.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/04/2026 11:54

LondonRidge · 16/04/2026 08:30

Basically the whole point of this business trip was to remind everyone that they are the MOST VICTIMISED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD and NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HOW HARD THEIR LIFE IS.

No one else has ever lost their mum, and definitely not William. And no one else has ever been bullied the way meghan has. Poor her. It’s so sad that she has to make up lies in return for millions, and it’s just NOT FAIR that people call them out for it when they see all the BS. The plebs are supposed to stand there and clap their hands adoringly at everything you say and do, that’s their job when you’re ROYAL.

They go to these things to talk about themselves, they’ve no interest in anyone else’s life because it can’t possibly be so hard. The only thing in their heads is themselves, ever. Life is a massive PR exercise trying to convince people to like you. Thing is - it’s not something that anyone should have to work that hard at really is it. I wonder if they’ve ever asked themselves why that might be. Or just continue assuming it’s an everyone else problem.

Excellent post, LondonRidge, though what surprises me is that anyone expected any different, be it on this tour or elsewhere

If they'd got anything of value to offer we'd presumably have seen it by now, but there really is absolutely nothing beyond whining about themselves and engaging in pointless photo ops to try to shore up a fatally tarnished image

Rhaidimiddim · 16/04/2026 12:18

jeffgoldblum · 16/04/2026 11:39

Buckingham palace made Harry and Meghan behave badly in a sinister plot to make people criticise them!!! 🤣🤣🤣

And Murdock played along.

bluegreygreen · 16/04/2026 13:03

Someone wise on these threads once pointed out that if BP tried to pressurise an editor to tell one story (e.g. H&M) rather than another the editor now had 3 stories: the original one, the second one, and the story of the cover-up.

It's not like Hollywood, where celebrity publications can play off one star against the other.

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 13:14

jeffgoldblum · 16/04/2026 11:39

Buckingham palace made Harry and Meghan behave badly in a sinister plot to make people criticise them!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Those dastardly men in grey suits!

jeffgoldblum · 16/04/2026 13:15

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 13:14

Those dastardly men in grey suits!

🤣

mummypigoink · 16/04/2026 13:21

I’ve often wondered that @bluegreygreen. What’s in it for the RF to brief against each other when the whole point of them is that they are a family.

I don’t mind having a monarchy. The soft power has its uses, love seeing the bling come out and don’t want a 3rd tier of politician!

But, as AMW is showing, and Diana could have done, and I think the racism comments about the unborn Archie could have really shown, there is an element of they stand and fall together. AMW is now tarnishing the image of QEII and had the Archie comments been proved, I would have switched to wanting to see the RF abolished because I do not want racists as my head of state.

So petty briefing against other members makes no sense and it particularly makes no sense for Charles to have been leaking stories about his sons because their youthful indiscretions reflected badly on him. Showing him taking Harry to a rehab hostel after a drugs story, that makes sense. Leaking that they’ve met Camilla and liked her, that makes sense. Releasing bad news - that’s a stupid move to me.

Or have I missed something?

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 13:35

Harry didn't present any evidence to support his accusations of leaking stories.

What journalists have said is that it is common practice, for anyone in the public eye, to try to barter one story about themselves with another that is more flattering. I'm sure that goes on in the palace as with any other famous person. But if we are going to say that family members leak against each other, as Harry claimed, there needs to be evidence.

Tiddlywinks63 · 16/04/2026 13:36

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 21:27

Seeing as Archie appears to be an afterthought it makes you wonder whether they both feel a disconnection now. Imagine growing up and reading your mother apparently wanted to kill her self while she was pregnant with you and your father needed therapy because he felt no connection to you before you were even born.

Is that why the poor child is rarely in photos posted by Meghan? It’s confirming that Lilibet’s is the favourite?
Utterly sickening and appalling behaviour from his disgustingly selfish and narcissistic parents.

Lifestooshort71 · 16/04/2026 14:02

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 13:14

Those dastardly men in grey suits!

Muttley, is that you?
<snicker>

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/04/2026 14:15

Lifestooshort71 · 16/04/2026 14:02

Muttley, is that you?
<snicker>

😄

TheAutumnCrow · 16/04/2026 14:18

Rhaidimiddim · 16/04/2026 12:18

And Murdock played along.

Oh yeah, well that old billionaire needs the money doesn’t he, I expect

nois · 16/04/2026 14:23

every time I hear Megan speak, it’s like watching an actress recite her well remembered lines. There’s nothing real or authentic about her.

wordler · 16/04/2026 14:27

mummypigoink · 16/04/2026 13:21

I’ve often wondered that @bluegreygreen. What’s in it for the RF to brief against each other when the whole point of them is that they are a family.

I don’t mind having a monarchy. The soft power has its uses, love seeing the bling come out and don’t want a 3rd tier of politician!

But, as AMW is showing, and Diana could have done, and I think the racism comments about the unborn Archie could have really shown, there is an element of they stand and fall together. AMW is now tarnishing the image of QEII and had the Archie comments been proved, I would have switched to wanting to see the RF abolished because I do not want racists as my head of state.

So petty briefing against other members makes no sense and it particularly makes no sense for Charles to have been leaking stories about his sons because their youthful indiscretions reflected badly on him. Showing him taking Harry to a rehab hostel after a drugs story, that makes sense. Leaking that they’ve met Camilla and liked her, that makes sense. Releasing bad news - that’s a stupid move to me.

Or have I missed something?

I think in the past the different ‘households’ have been quite territorial and senior staff have been very protective of their principals and have developed relationships with members of the press to hype up ‘their’ royal or disparage another in comparison.

That in turn helps them in their own staff hierarchy.

So less that Charles is directly ordering a hit piece on a family member but that his private secretary is annoyed that another family member is getting all the good press and air time.

I do think that the royals are aware of this leaking and some of them don’t mind it when it goes in their favour.

It’s also one of the reasons the press get annoyed with William because he runs a very tight and controlled staff operation with no leaking - which is very boring for the press who have been used to getting their inside gossip for years.

It was funny how absolutely furious a lot of them were by bringing blindsided by the Eugene Levy interview that no one had breathed a word of before it dropped.

Crumpledelist678 · 16/04/2026 14:29

Tiddlywinks63 · 16/04/2026 13:36

Is that why the poor child is rarely in photos posted by Meghan? It’s confirming that Lilibet’s is the favourite?
Utterly sickening and appalling behaviour from his disgustingly selfish and narcissistic parents.

It’s rather disgusting to make fun of a woman who experiences mental problems either pre- or post-partum imho.

Also they get blamed for not photographing one child enough and another child too much? They really can’t win!

Plus I think it’s pretty sickening to negatively judge the parenting of someone when you don’t know them.

Rhaidimiddim · 16/04/2026 14:29

mummypigoink · 16/04/2026 13:21

I’ve often wondered that @bluegreygreen. What’s in it for the RF to brief against each other when the whole point of them is that they are a family.

I don’t mind having a monarchy. The soft power has its uses, love seeing the bling come out and don’t want a 3rd tier of politician!

But, as AMW is showing, and Diana could have done, and I think the racism comments about the unborn Archie could have really shown, there is an element of they stand and fall together. AMW is now tarnishing the image of QEII and had the Archie comments been proved, I would have switched to wanting to see the RF abolished because I do not want racists as my head of state.

So petty briefing against other members makes no sense and it particularly makes no sense for Charles to have been leaking stories about his sons because their youthful indiscretions reflected badly on him. Showing him taking Harry to a rehab hostel after a drugs story, that makes sense. Leaking that they’ve met Camilla and liked her, that makes sense. Releasing bad news - that’s a stupid move to me.

Or have I missed something?

Archie's dad has already stated, very clearly and on the record, that the RF aren't racist. He's married to a Black woman, so he should know.

TheAutumnCrow · 16/04/2026 14:49

One thing that Harry’s own ANL court case has shown us is that no-one in any palace needed to be ‘leaking and planting stories’ about him, because he and his chums were blabbing like crazy all the bloody time.

Mylovelygreendress · 16/04/2026 15:00

Crumpledelist678 · 16/04/2026 14:29

It’s rather disgusting to make fun of a woman who experiences mental problems either pre- or post-partum imho.

Also they get blamed for not photographing one child enough and another child too much? They really can’t win!

Plus I think it’s pretty sickening to negatively judge the parenting of someone when you don’t know them.

But as I said in reply to you earlier , they said they wanted privacy for their DC then allowed Netflix to film Archie in his bath !

Ohpleeeease · 16/04/2026 15:03

Crumpledelist678 · 16/04/2026 14:29

It’s rather disgusting to make fun of a woman who experiences mental problems either pre- or post-partum imho.

Also they get blamed for not photographing one child enough and another child too much? They really can’t win!

Plus I think it’s pretty sickening to negatively judge the parenting of someone when you don’t know them.

You’re really struggling with this thread aren’t you? Why exactly are you here?

corblimeygvnr · 16/04/2026 15:03

Crumpledelist678 · 16/04/2026 14:29

It’s rather disgusting to make fun of a woman who experiences mental problems either pre- or post-partum imho.

Also they get blamed for not photographing one child enough and another child too much? They really can’t win!

Plus I think it’s pretty sickening to negatively judge the parenting of someone when you don’t know them.

Do you tell that to the people who criticise the Wales children ?

JSMill · 16/04/2026 15:05

TheAutumnCrow · 16/04/2026 14:49

One thing that Harry’s own ANL court case has shown us is that no-one in any palace needed to be ‘leaking and planting stories’ about him, because he and his chums were blabbing like crazy all the bloody time.

He really shot himself in the foot with that court case.

corblimeygvnr · 16/04/2026 15:13

Crumpledelist678 · 16/04/2026 10:56

Maybe Harry did speak out? He certainly did not like his uncle by all accounts. Maybe he was told that it was not his place hierarchically to say anything about it? As you know his book covered events in his own life.

Maybe he rightfully expected those in the top jobs to do the right thing? Fhs, some people are still defending Andrew now when they know the facts! Harry wouldn’t have been believed or heard if he had raised it. Maybe this played a part in him leaving?

Blimey you really are spinning a yarn now. I don't see anyone here defending Andrew. Who is ?

TheAutumnCrow · 16/04/2026 16:40

Here you go, @Crumpledelist678. ANDREW IS A MONSTER.

What have H&M ever actually said to explicitly condemn him?

<tumbleweed>

Jellybelly80 · 16/04/2026 16:46

Rhaidimiddim · 16/04/2026 11:23

The Birkenhead footage is nothing but substance.

I’m not aware of what happened in Birkenhead. What would I Google pls ?

TheAutumnCrow · 16/04/2026 16:55

Jellybelly80 · 16/04/2026 16:46

I’m not aware of what happened in Birkenhead. What would I Google pls ?

‘Meghan surrogate conspiracy’ or similar, I expect.

Personally I find it all a bit mental but the gruesome twosome’s bizarre pronouncements about Archie (pregnancy, alleged suicidality, unlikely birth tales, lack of bonding, therapy, tears on the floor etc) will be grist the mill of those who think something is shonky. Sigh.

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