PR Disasters….Part 8

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PR Disasters of the The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continued :

• So far we have Meg using charity events/sick children/vulnerable adults to merch her fashion, with the launch of her new fashion platform
• She will be appearing on MasterChef Australia
• Harry claiming to have had therapy when Archie was born, even though he never sought MH help for his ill wife a few short months earlier.

The more you post, the more I realise how pathetic H really is. He was in his mid 30s. He was responsible for weighing up his options. Not the grey suits that H didn't want to deal with.

How can you say this - people are making a living by disparaging them ? Maybe but they're not the only ones. Hallo! Spare, the documentaries, Harry in Australia now waaahing about life in the royals and how awful it was - in fact GETTING PAID to do so . What's good for the goose etc ..if they weren't out there spewing their poison then no one would talk about them 🤷‍♀️

If Harry knew what Andrew had been doing for years, then why didn't he whistleblow? Why diid he say next to nothing about Andrew in his book? Why has he still not spoken out? Why did Harry, with power and influence and a huge platform, with all this knowledge about a massive scandal, leave it to a bunch of raped and abused women to speak out?

@Ohpleeeease do you really think Camilla is as disliked as always?

I don't, I think she has been accepted as Charles Queen, I could be wrong though.

He was heard, he just didn’t like the answer.
Since that point we have had one long drawn out tantrum.

He had an opportunity that wasn't available to his brother, he could walk away from the ‘goldfish bowl’, have the freedom he wanted and make a different, more private life for himself. He took that opportunity and he ballsed it up. 🤷‍♀️

In your opinion.

yes someone in his position with huge wealth and privilege was never backed into a corner. He could live any nice life he wanted to if he didn't want to do the Royal stuff but that wasn't enough for them. He is a grown man who has to take responsibility for his choices and actions just like everyone else and his choice was to hurt his family and others to get a big pay out. Most peope find that despicable unsurprisingly especially when a lot of it was easy disproved lies.
And now we have to listen to him lecture us on mental health and how hard he and his wife have had it.
And if you make your life all about image and looks as Meghan has then of course people are going to comment. That is the cult of fame and celebrity and if you choose that path then that is the price you have to pay.

Maybe Harry did speak out? He certainly did not like his uncle by all accounts. Maybe he was told that it was not his place hierarchically to say anything about it? As you know his book covered events in his own life.

Maybe he rightfully expected those in the top jobs to do the right thing? Fhs, some people are still defending Andrew now when they know the facts! Harry wouldn’t have been believed or heard if he had raised it. Maybe this played a part in him leaving?

I don’t think she is hated as she once was. But what was hatred has just translated into indifference. In polls she isn’t popular, despite everything she’s done since. People who remember her as the homewrecker don’t forgive, and younger people just don’t care.

Yeh and I’ve heard too, that Mumsnet is full of posters that Buckingham Palace are paying to say mean things about Meghan and Harry. Their sources are everywhere!

These womans need to start womaning better! Be supportive womans!!!

excuses excuses.
he has no trouble speaking up about anything else.

@Crumpledelist678I think it’s the hypocrisy that gets to people .
Whilst in her blink and you miss it time in the RF Meghan says she was forced to wear tights and neutral colours . Once she found her freedom she is photographed umpteen times wearing neutral clothes then today - tights .
She says her passport was taken off her yet she managed several overseas jaunts including her baby shower .
She says she had no support but she was offered help from Sophie , a lady in waiting and an equerry but they weren’t good enough and mean , boring Catherine wouldn’t help .
They wanted privacy for their DC ( admirable ) and refused to “ serve their child on a silver platter “ but then allow Netflix to film Archie in his bath ! And we now have a constant stream of photos of A and L .
Harry says he hated being a working Royal yet this tour is a desperate attempt to portray themselves as working Royals.
They cling on to their titles , inflict them on their DC and H says he is desperate to reconcile!
And you wonder why people dislike them ?

I assumed the gaunt look was due to living on the unsold spread.
Can’t be very nutritious. 😉.

Bollocks. If he respected the hierarchy, he would never have left, never done Oprah, never have done Spare and never have done Netflix. His entire book and constant whinging is about the RF not "doing the right thing". There's no reason whatsoever why he couldn't have written about Andrew, or indeed, spoken out about him then or now. Let's not pretend that Harry left for some noble reason.

it suited him not to say anything as he was close to Andrew's daughters and their hubbies. All dropped now of course because it doesn't suit their agenda

When he was living his best life as his brother and Catherine's sidekick, Harry let it be known that he very much wanted his own family, couldn't wait to have kids. Surely a man - whose hormones are unaffected by pregnancy - doesn't suddenly become terrified of having a baby having wanted one for so long? I'd have thought he would be very excited.

The Birkenhead footage is nothing but substance.

Harry and Meghan released a statement saying how things were going to be before they had agreed anything with the palace. It wasn't Harry who was blindsided by events. His problem was that the palace didn't agree with what he wanted to do and said no.

We'll have to wait and see how William handles things, MrsLF, but I wouldn't expect Harry to need public recognition of his relationship if he did come back because I very much doubt Meghan would be prepared to come with him

Andrew was one of the few members of the Royal family Harry did not attack in his book. When another book accused Harry of hitting Andrew, Harry was quick to release a statement denying it.

If Harry did know about Andrew and disapproved these facts from his own mouth don't make sense.

Well whoever was blindsided, other members of the royal family had been living high on the HIHO hog for years! And if they weren’t it’s because they have had lucrative income from the Duchies! It was only Harry apparently who had to abide by the so-called rules!

If I was Meghan I'd definitely stay away, who would want the increased press attacks and constant comparisons with Catherine? Harry seems to think he can come back and all will be forgotten, he would do well to consider how Camilla is still attacked decades later.

Please name a current senior working royal who also has commercial ventures. The Royal Duchies don't count they are established to provide income for the monarch and the Heir.

Andrew definitely bent the rules which is why i think they have refused to let Harry to do the same and get themselves into the same mess.

Buckingham palace made Harry and Meghan behave badly in a sinister plot to make people criticise them!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Btw, I was posting on another thread how 'I have hidden the 'Sex' board [on MN] ... as it's full of weird male fetishists who are very obviously sitting at a screen typing with just one hand iyswim. Absolutely revolting.'

Mumsnet is not a 'mumsy' place - it is a business, and we are the product. Our conversations on here are the product. Some parts of the site will not suit each individual and it is possible to hide threads and boards.

I come here because I find the calibre of most of the comments on the RF board to be better (and wittier) than what's written in the BLT comments (and often by the journalists themselves) in the press. It tends to be pretty grown up on the whole. No-one is forced to read posts or forced to engage. If someone wants to say Meghan looks 22 and post AI images of her 'in support', effectively reducing her worth to her looks, then they can, knowing that such public behaviour is on them.

I'm more interested in the shenanigans of the Head of State of this country and Realms. I'm not orginally from the UK - it is my adoptive home - and I'm of mixed ethnicity. I am very fond of this country and its people and I found M&H's egregious lies in pursuit of their mission to tradduce it quite disgusting, actually. I spent a couple of years waiting for them to speak out about Andrew and his victims - but crickets. Their silence on the whole York debacle says such a lot.