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The royal family

PR Disasters ….part 7

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AtIusvue · 03/04/2026 12:27

Meg and Harry PR shenanigans

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Mylovelygreendress · 10/04/2026 08:50

Coclare · 10/04/2026 08:41

Though he was happy to pimp her out for ‘voice overs’ as per his pitch to head of Disney in the line-up for Lion King event.

Did anything every come of that ?

SixSevenShutUp · 10/04/2026 08:53

Mylovelygreendress · 10/04/2026 08:50

Did anything every come of that ?

Yes, she did a voice over for an elephant documentary. It didn't get good reviews and the promised donation to an elephant charity never appeared, allegedly.

Mylovelygreendress · 10/04/2026 09:05

Thanks@SixSevenShutUp

Jiggy16 · 10/04/2026 10:06

AtIusvue · 10/04/2026 00:41

Harry also made a big deal of KC saying the Meg should keep her acting career when they marry. Harry was outraged at such a suggestion

How would this have worked though, would this not be a kind of half in half out scenario? Long time lurker - im fascinated by them and the drama, currently going through bowers 2nd book but am not fully up there on it all.

elessar · 10/04/2026 10:17

Jiggy16 · 10/04/2026 10:06

How would this have worked though, would this not be a kind of half in half out scenario? Long time lurker - im fascinated by them and the drama, currently going through bowers 2nd book but am not fully up there on it all.

It’s a good question but my assumption in that case is that she wouldn’t have been a working royal, she would have been Prince Harry’s wife and probably appeared at various family occasions and events but not been a working royal in her own right. I assume that if she had been titled as a Duchess on marriage that she wouldn’t have been allowed to use that in her acting career, though of course the royal association would have boosted her profile significantly.

Coclare · 10/04/2026 10:23

AtIusvue · 10/04/2026 00:41

Harry also made a big deal of KC saying the Meg should keep her acting career when they marry. Harry was outraged at such a suggestion

I think that this was indicative of the issues the RF were having with MM’s significant financial demands early on.

FairlyGrim · 10/04/2026 10:32

elessar · 10/04/2026 10:17

It’s a good question but my assumption in that case is that she wouldn’t have been a working royal, she would have been Prince Harry’s wife and probably appeared at various family occasions and events but not been a working royal in her own right. I assume that if she had been titled as a Duchess on marriage that she wouldn’t have been allowed to use that in her acting career, though of course the royal association would have boosted her profile significantly.

I would have thought that could have been an excellent way forward, especially for a "younger sibling" royal and a spouse who already had a fairly established career and wasn't in their first youth .

It could have been a very dignified and 'modern' solution for everybody.

There's a limit to how many working royals are actually needed. And not everyone who marries into the Royal Family will want to become a working royal... as in fact we've seen here. It actually looks as though the problem is that neither of them wants to be a working anything.

Mylovelygreendress · 10/04/2026 10:37

I have never thought that Meghan actually wanted to be an actress . She wanted to be rich and famous and she assumed acting would make that happen but she’s no Julia Roberts so marrying a rich ( although probably not as rich as she thought) man was a good back up plan .

AtIusvue · 10/04/2026 11:01

Jiggy16 · 10/04/2026 10:06

How would this have worked though, would this not be a kind of half in half out scenario? Long time lurker - im fascinated by them and the drama, currently going through bowers 2nd book but am not fully up there on it all.

Big Suz managed it. Joking.

She could have kept her career and she would be invited to certain family events, but wouldn’t receive staff, patronages, sovereign grant etc. pretty much like a York sister.

Harry could have carried on as before with what he had, but not expand upon it.

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BeebeeBoyle · 10/04/2026 11:31

elessar · 10/04/2026 10:17

It’s a good question but my assumption in that case is that she wouldn’t have been a working royal, she would have been Prince Harry’s wife and probably appeared at various family occasions and events but not been a working royal in her own right. I assume that if she had been titled as a Duchess on marriage that she wouldn’t have been allowed to use that in her acting career, though of course the royal association would have boosted her profile significantly.

She always banged on about feminism. Continuing to work as Meghan Markle would have cemented that. She would have been respected for it.

Mylovelygreendress · 10/04/2026 11:36

She’s Sussex now and don’t you forget it !!

JSMill · 10/04/2026 12:05

Mylovelygreendress · 10/04/2026 10:37

I have never thought that Meghan actually wanted to be an actress . She wanted to be rich and famous and she assumed acting would make that happen but she’s no Julia Roberts so marrying a rich ( although probably not as rich as she thought) man was a good back up plan .

Definitely.

bluegreygreen · 10/04/2026 12:16

BeebeeBoyle · 10/04/2026 11:31

She always banged on about feminism. Continuing to work as Meghan Markle would have cemented that. She would have been respected for it.

Yes, it would have made sense in many ways, but they wanted to 'hit the ground running' as working royals.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/04/2026 13:12

elessar · 10/04/2026 10:17

It’s a good question but my assumption in that case is that she wouldn’t have been a working royal, she would have been Prince Harry’s wife and probably appeared at various family occasions and events but not been a working royal in her own right. I assume that if she had been titled as a Duchess on marriage that she wouldn’t have been allowed to use that in her acting career, though of course the royal association would have boosted her profile significantly.

Well, similar was done for Mark Phillips, though he was never given a title, and that seemed to work at least while he and Anne were still married

As things turned out though, it seems Meghan only really valued her role for its future bankability, and even that only lasted as long as it took to develop the victim narrative to persuade Harry her life was at risk if she stayed

IMO the entire thing was choreographed from the start - something which might have become clearer had Harry possessed the sense to move a little slower

Coclare · 10/04/2026 13:21

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/04/2026 13:12

Well, similar was done for Mark Phillips, though he was never given a title, and that seemed to work at least while he and Anne were still married

As things turned out though, it seems Meghan only really valued her role for its future bankability, and even that only lasted as long as it took to develop the victim narrative to persuade Harry her life was at risk if she stayed

IMO the entire thing was choreographed from the start - something which might have become clearer had Harry possessed the sense to move a little slower

Yes this I believe to be true - she had her whole Hollywood career growing entourage with her throughout - lawyers, PR, agents etc all still on the roster - even OW was negotiating behind the scenes. It was a when not if situation. She took a risk having Archie in the UK tho….

JSMill · 10/04/2026 13:30

It seems Meghan only really valued her role for its future bankability. When M and H got married, many people I knew said she would walk. I naively thought it was true love and she was fully committed. I now believe it was a plan. It infuriates me that she has taken a British royal title to make money for herself, not because that’s intrinsically wrong, but because she has shown absolutely no respect to this country or its traditions. Britain has been portrayed as a racist country as a result of her lies on OW.

Mylovelygreendress · 10/04/2026 13:41

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/04/2026 13:12

Well, similar was done for Mark Phillips, though he was never given a title, and that seemed to work at least while he and Anne were still married

As things turned out though, it seems Meghan only really valued her role for its future bankability, and even that only lasted as long as it took to develop the victim narrative to persuade Harry her life was at risk if she stayed

IMO the entire thing was choreographed from the start - something which might have become clearer had Harry possessed the sense to move a little slower

He turned down a title . The late Queen offered him an Earldom which he refused .

ShamedBySiri · 10/04/2026 13:50

JSMill · 10/04/2026 13:30

It seems Meghan only really valued her role for its future bankability. When M and H got married, many people I knew said she would walk. I naively thought it was true love and she was fully committed. I now believe it was a plan. It infuriates me that she has taken a British royal title to make money for herself, not because that’s intrinsically wrong, but because she has shown absolutely no respect to this country or its traditions. Britain has been portrayed as a racist country as a result of her lies on OW.

Me too. She ripped off a £30m wedding and then dissed it as a spectacle she didn’t want (while boasting about South Africans dancing in the street to celebrate). Both of them were given honours and patronages, the commonwealth, the national theatre, Prince Phillip passed on his Royal Marines Captain General role to Harry and told him not to mess it up. All these were flung back at the Royal family and the UK accompanied by a blizzard of lies and insults.
Shameful behaviour from the pair of them.

wordler · 10/04/2026 14:37

Coclare · 10/04/2026 10:23

I think that this was indicative of the issues the RF were having with MM’s significant financial demands early on.

I think by that point they’d witnessed how unsuitable she was to the working royal life and were giving her a way of ‘saving face’ by using continuing an acting career as a reason why she wasn’t going to be a full time working royal.

Lunde · 10/04/2026 15:25

elessar · 10/04/2026 10:17

It’s a good question but my assumption in that case is that she wouldn’t have been a working royal, she would have been Prince Harry’s wife and probably appeared at various family occasions and events but not been a working royal in her own right. I assume that if she had been titled as a Duchess on marriage that she wouldn’t have been allowed to use that in her acting career, though of course the royal association would have boosted her profile significantly.

I guess she'd be in a similar position to Sophie Winkleman who could choose to be styled as "Lady Sophie" following her marriage to Lord Frederick Windsor but uses the Winkleman name for her acting career and, as far as I know, has not attempted to make money from her title.

SqueakyDinosaur · 10/04/2026 15:30

Lunde · 10/04/2026 15:25

I guess she'd be in a similar position to Sophie Winkleman who could choose to be styled as "Lady Sophie" following her marriage to Lord Frederick Windsor but uses the Winkleman name for her acting career and, as far as I know, has not attempted to make money from her title.

I believe she's actually Lady Frederick Windsor, just as in theory Catherine is Princess William. But we know that Meghan blithely ignores naming protocols - her preferred "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" should only be if divorced I believe - she should really be The Duchess of Sussex or Princess Harry.

bluegreygreen · 10/04/2026 15:31

Yes, there is precedent @Lunde, and it could work well, just was never really wanted.

Coclare · 10/04/2026 15:59

SqueakyDinosaur · 10/04/2026 15:30

I believe she's actually Lady Frederick Windsor, just as in theory Catherine is Princess William. But we know that Meghan blithely ignores naming protocols - her preferred "Meghan, Duchess of Sussex" should only be if divorced I believe - she should really be The Duchess of Sussex or Princess Harry.

I think this is astute brand management on behalf of MM - she’s getting the brand name well and truly embedded before the divorce - so that her brand identity is seamless and secured.

JSMill · 10/04/2026 16:12

@ShamedBySiri I forgot about the South Africans dancing in the street story! It’s such a ludicrous story.

Recklessismymiddlename · 10/04/2026 16:17

Coclare · 10/04/2026 15:59

I think this is astute brand management on behalf of MM - she’s getting the brand name well and truly embedded before the divorce - so that her brand identity is seamless and secured.

Hadn’t thought of that.

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