Princess Anne

[Mylovelygreendress]

Love this photo of Anne at the rugby today . She is such a brilliant supporter of the Scottish Rugby team

"Hard working royal "..the most accurate meaning of an oxymoron.

I will never understand the adoration and kowtowing. Here's a woman who obviously doesn't get it either...a woman after my own heart

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@Seymour5

Have you read about Andrew and what he is accused of ?
Are you aware of the financial and legal ‘exemptions’ - I call them abuses- that the Windsors enjoy ?

Respectfully, you sound like you have achieved a great age and frankly you have accepted whatever you have been told .
On second thoughts- do not read anything about Andrew. Sincerely you are better off continuing as you are

I agree mainly. However, George I was the grandson of Charles I's only surviving sibling Elizabeth (a pretty impressive figure herself). I'm a Republican but, while there were a lot of other potential candidates, I think George had a fairly strong claim to direct descent, arguably.
I think a stronger argument is the multiple breaks and 'what ifs' throughout royal history. When William the Conqueror invaded, he imposed a French-speaking monarchy who were pretty culturally distinct for centuries (Richard I probably didn't speak English and spent less than a year there). Then the Wars of the Roses ended with a winner whose claim was fairly dubious (Henry VII). And so on... it's odd the monarchy has been made into a national symbol when they're arguably one of the least continuous elements of the nation, in a lot of ways.

No offence Seymour but trying to compare your life and theirs, it's just such a silly thing to do. There is no comparison of course
The tourist myth has been busted time and time again on here and I can't go into it again. Ditto the bringing in revenue. It's clever PR.

This!

Tourism is no argument — Versailles and the Tuileries don’t lack for visitors despite the lack of a royal family. And bread and circuses in the aftermath of WW2 are no justification for an expensive, anti-democratic institution in 2026.

@Carla786

I agree about the breaks and who know knows what centuries ago . I was trying to point to more recent examples but yes the whole ‘direct line ‘ PR is more propaganda.

Exactly. Not just France. Most countries in Europe don't have monarchies: Italy, Germany, Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Greece, Portugal, Iceland, Finland, Switzerland to name a few.

Can you imagine a tourist saying, 'Why would I visit Italy, or Germany or Greece or Austria? They have no monarchy, not interested!' Wildly unlikely.

Do people think that Britain has nothing interesting to offer tourists apart from the monarchy?

It's also fair to note that several other European countries HAVE retained monarchies (Spain, Norway, Netherlands etc) but maintain healthy numbers of tourists who are drawn by other things. Or look at Japan - they have the oldest continuous monarchy in the world, but it's hardly one of the top reasons so many people want to visit.

Thank you, I get that. I do have a fondness for Elizabeth Stuart (the book by Nadine Akkerman is very interesting on her) so irrationally, I feel defensive of George I's right to the throne! 🤣
Him being German was obviously non-ideal for an English king, but some think that his lack of language skills helped Paliamenr get more power from the monarch. Hopefully, we can at last finish that process.

Buffoon is apt - and not just for the military cosplay.
Anyone remember Anne dismissing slavery reparations ? It was around the time of Elizabeth’s death .
She is also reported to be very concerned about Andrew’s mental health …
Has she expressed similar concern for the victims ?

I agree she looks totally ridiculous in those military style uniforms. She has never even been in the services AFAIK.

Of course I’ve read about Andrew, he’s despicable. He’s always been the spoilt, entitled brat. I think the RF has been hugely damaged, not only by his behaviour, but by attempts to excuse/cover it up. I wonder what his sister thinks of him? However, he isn’t the future, any more than the disgruntled H&M.

There may be no RF in a few generations, I won’t see the changes. However, when W&K do take over from KC, I expect it to at least be slimmed down.

Respectfully, skimming a précis someone else researched and wrote for you, giving a speech someone else researched and wrote for you, being driven to the door and saying ‘Have you come far?’ to a series of people is hardly onerous, by the standards of virtually any job.

People say this all the time. It’s very easy to say when this has never been your role though. People who have done this themselves, or worked for people for whom this is a key part of their role (a CEO of a big organisation, for example) have different opinions.

The Windsors represent unquestioned millions and millions more in benefit in kind.

The ‘working royal’ oxymoron is nothing more than the latest ( mid 20th century ) wheeze to pull the wool over the eyes of the gullible

No one with any sense believes it . William clearly doesn’t and apart from the flopped attempts to distract from Andrew in recent days has made it clear he’ll do little and we can like it or lump it .

I have some hope for the public accounts committee examination of the Windsors . I hope it is extensive enough .

it is odd. on the news yesterday Kate was inspecting some "soldiers" (can't remember what they were) and it made me wonder how she (and other royals) can become a colonel and inspect the troops when they are just a royal.
disclaimer I do know she was just looking at them and saying hello.

@seymour5

Andrew isn’t the future of the Windsors but he is the truth .
A truth they have spent decades hiding.

Although there has been lots of negativity, much of it deserved, in more recent years, the RF is still a tourist attraction, bringing revenue to the UK.

While it's true this myth has been debunked here many times, it's worth pointing out that were we to dispense with the royals we'd likely increase tourist revenues in that palaces, castles and other properties could be opened up more fully and to more visitors.

It's also worth noting that C3 trousers the proceeds of ticket sales for BP tours and gift shop revenues (alongside other properties) rather than being required to offset them against the eye watering renovation costs derived from the public purse.

That is a bold but true statement. The lid has been lifted. Not enough but some.

I do not know how the Windsors did not see this coming. I remember AMW flying here there and everywhere (on the taxpayers dollar) and thinking decades ago, good god, what is this man doing? He wasn't called Airmiles Andy for nothing.
Yet the royals did what they always do, stuck their heads in the sand and hope it blows over.

Then along comes Meghan and she's the convenient diversion for years of headlines, no more Airmiles Andy or the public giggling at what a one he was! They had meghan and Harry to bang on about. Yet hidden in plain sight was still AMW and he had moved on from being a bit of a playboy, to 40 prostitutes in Thailand (so much so, the Attache over there had to tell him or his people, that he wasn't a 'pimp' and wasn't procuring girls for Andrew)...
to a massive hook up with the worst paedophile and sex trafficker in history.

Yes, he is the truth. And it's unpleasant.

Yes, he is the truth. And it's unpleasant
Completely agree. A truth that his mother covered up, condoned and hid for decades.

While it didn't happen due to the Newsnight fallout Andrew was due to be bumped up to a full admiral as a 60th birthday bauble.

C3 became the commander of a minesweeper during his time in the Navy but holds the ranks of Field Marshal in the army, Admiral of the Fleet in the Navy and Marshal of the RAF

They award themselves undeserved military gongs regularly.

Wasn't there a story about him ordering a new ceremonial under form to wear to Prince Philips funeral, before being told he couldn't wear it? Says a lot about him that that's what he thought of a few days after his father died!

If the Newsnight interview hadn't had such a backlash, 100% he would have been an Admiral.
Alongside Horatio Nelson and Francis Drake 😮🤡

You couldn't make it up. His mother who enabled him was forever awarding him medals and honours.

Knight of the Grand Cross, Knight of the Garter, Vice Admiral, and he even got some Grand Cross medal for services to Norway and humanity! I presume he'd shagged a couple of norwegian girls 😂

The Royals make a mockery of Medals and awards. Edward can hardly stand up straight for the amount of medals he wears, after dipping out of the Royal Navy after a few weeks!

Sure Edo and Jack have medals, as does Mike.
They sure love wearing them on parade!

Oops wrong thread ! Sorry thought I was on the Anne one , just woke up .

Do they? Have they? If so, that's beyond a joke!