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PR disasters (IYKYK) thread 5

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AtIusvue · 26/02/2026 09:41

For Meghan and Harry, As ever and Archewell posts.

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GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 11:19

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 11:11

Hilarious the attempts to try and say they aren’t in financial trouble.

  • They have let go most of their staff across the board - Archewell productions, Archewell Foundation and those connected to As ever
  • They closed down their foundation after only 5 years, and moved to a model where they have a financial sponsor and someone else takes on the admin costs. They couldn’t afford to keep the foundation
  • Any rich person, who would have bought that house, would have torn it down or at the very least did a complete refurbishment . They haven’t had the finances for this, they are still living with the kitchen table and chairs put in 20years ago by a Russian oligarch!
  • The house is showing wear and tear. The NYT even commented that the kitchen counter tops were ‘well worn’. It’s clear parts of the garden aren’t maintained- so they clearly they don’t employ enough staff.
  • They no longer have a partner in NF. They lost the Spotify gig long ago.

What exactly are their income streams? As ever is going nowhere and will soon wind up. Harry has better up but that’s it. They are now having to do events like this to try and raise some cash!

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Lol so what if they havent torn down their house not every rich person is the same.

Im not wealthy in their terms but im very comfortable i bought my house 14yrs ago i still have the original boiler havent replaced it, kts now 40yrs old still going strong why rip something out for the sake of it. I havent chnahed the kitchen yet it was 2yrs old when I moved on, not 100% my taste but equally its not awful either. I can afford to change it but its just a waste and for what, having a kitchen that isnt quite my taste isnt that big of a deal.

The again like many ppl my parents were ones that looked after things and make it last and only chnaged it if it broke.

Given that we live in such a throw away culture its a good thing we arent just tearing stuff down just be ause its not our style. Being rich has nothing to do with it.

And yes a kitchen after 20yrs is going to be showing a bit of wear and tear...omg shocking. This still doesnt mean they are running out of money because they are choosing not to change it yet.

If there businesses have failed doesnt mean they are running out of money you dont know their personal finances and investments etc.

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 11:33

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 11:19

Lol so what if they havent torn down their house not every rich person is the same.

Im not wealthy in their terms but im very comfortable i bought my house 14yrs ago i still have the original boiler havent replaced it, kts now 40yrs old still going strong why rip something out for the sake of it. I havent chnahed the kitchen yet it was 2yrs old when I moved on, not 100% my taste but equally its not awful either. I can afford to change it but its just a waste and for what, having a kitchen that isnt quite my taste isnt that big of a deal.

The again like many ppl my parents were ones that looked after things and make it last and only chnaged it if it broke.

Given that we live in such a throw away culture its a good thing we arent just tearing stuff down just be ause its not our style. Being rich has nothing to do with it.

And yes a kitchen after 20yrs is going to be showing a bit of wear and tear...omg shocking. This still doesnt mean they are running out of money because they are choosing not to change it yet.

If there businesses have failed doesnt mean they are running out of money you dont know their personal finances and investments etc.

You clearly don’t understand the housing market in the richest parts of America.

The mansions built, aren't stone and mortar. They are timber framed and get built pretty quickly and cheaply. In these areas, you are buying the land not the house. The houses are worth nothing.

So the very fact they’ve lived in a naff 2000s McMansion, with the dated decor picked by a Russian oligarch- is a sign that they don't have the finances to do, what other rich people would- which is to rebuild/refurbish/redecorate.

Look what Adele paid for Sylvester Stallones LA home…only to tear it down. That’s because you are buying the land….not the house.

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jeffgoldblum · 11/03/2026 11:36

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 10:53

I honestly can’t read what that post says.

“Sells selfish for cash “ is very apt!

PotolKimchi · 11/03/2026 11:39

Come on, in the nicest possible way, yours is not the league Harry and Meghan were aiming for when they left the Royal Family @GoldBthehypo
.They wanted to be ambassadors for the Commonwealth, 'collaborate' with the Queen, they signed multi million pound deals.

If their personal investments and wealth is indeed so great, then why has their foundation collapsed? Why have they not been able to hold on to staff?
In fact why did they even need Tyler Perry to house them in California in 2020 and pay for their security? Interesting how we don't hear about TP any more since he's facing a 77million dollar sexual assault lawsuit.

I fully agree @GoldBthehypo that one doesn't need to live ostentatiously. At that point one also doesn't need an 11 million dollar mansion...

corblimeyguvnr · 11/03/2026 12:04

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 11:19

Lol so what if they havent torn down their house not every rich person is the same.

Im not wealthy in their terms but im very comfortable i bought my house 14yrs ago i still have the original boiler havent replaced it, kts now 40yrs old still going strong why rip something out for the sake of it. I havent chnahed the kitchen yet it was 2yrs old when I moved on, not 100% my taste but equally its not awful either. I can afford to change it but its just a waste and for what, having a kitchen that isnt quite my taste isnt that big of a deal.

The again like many ppl my parents were ones that looked after things and make it last and only chnaged it if it broke.

Given that we live in such a throw away culture its a good thing we arent just tearing stuff down just be ause its not our style. Being rich has nothing to do with it.

And yes a kitchen after 20yrs is going to be showing a bit of wear and tear...omg shocking. This still doesnt mean they are running out of money because they are choosing not to change it yet.

If there businesses have failed doesnt mean they are running out of money you dont know their personal finances and investments etc.

stretch armstrong 90s GIF

You're not selling a lifestyle though are you? You're not selling a hosting and " cooking" show are you?

BoudiccaRuled · 11/03/2026 12:18

Butteredtoast55 · 11/03/2026 09:39

I do wonder how the Sussexes square reality and their public image, by which I mean the way they want to present themselves: free, liberated, self-made, modern and successful?

I'm trying (not very well) to articulate this ....do they have honest, realistic discussions about the choices they have made and the impact of (for example) losing the Spotify and Netflix deals? Do they have the self awareness to know that their grandiose ideas about carving out a new, progressive role have been reduced to essentially selling out to bring in the cash? Is this why Harry seems to be either sozzled or have a face like thunder most of the time?
Or do they see themselves as making a big success of everything they've done but they choose to move forwards and continue to innovate? I think Meghan is fascinating as she either has a backbone of steel and the grit to brazen out failure and keep trying again, or she is completely delusional and a grade A narcissist. I just can't work out which.
I almost feel like they deserve to catch a break, but then I think about their cruelty, hypocrisy and pomposity and it seems like the universe is dealing with what they deserve. It's psychologically fascinating.

Of all the 7 billion people on the planet, most of whom have hard lives, Harry&Meghan Markle come probably bottom of my "deserve to catch a break" list.

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 12:31

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 11:33

You clearly don’t understand the housing market in the richest parts of America.

The mansions built, aren't stone and mortar. They are timber framed and get built pretty quickly and cheaply. In these areas, you are buying the land not the house. The houses are worth nothing.

So the very fact they’ve lived in a naff 2000s McMansion, with the dated decor picked by a Russian oligarch- is a sign that they don't have the finances to do, what other rich people would- which is to rebuild/refurbish/redecorate.

Look what Adele paid for Sylvester Stallones LA home…only to tear it down. That’s because you are buying the land….not the house.

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Oh is okay then isnt it if its timber frame lets just tear it down and then chop more trees down to build another timber framed house ffs. Dont you think thats awful to be wasting our natural resources and yes whilst more trees can be planted we aren't planting enough to sustain the current rate they are being cut down by.

What an awful attitude to have well its what rich ppl do and should do.

We should be encouraging people to do the opposite. To make things last as long as possible.

BasiliskStare · 11/03/2026 12:35

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 11:11

Hilarious the attempts to try and say they aren’t in financial trouble.

  • They have let go most of their staff across the board - Archewell productions, Archewell Foundation and those connected to As ever
  • They closed down their foundation after only 5 years, and moved to a model where they have a financial sponsor and someone else takes on the admin costs. They couldn’t afford to keep the foundation
  • Any rich person, who would have bought that house, would have torn it down or at the very least did a complete refurbishment . They haven’t had the finances for this, they are still living with the kitchen table and chairs put in 20years ago by a Russian oligarch!
  • The house is showing wear and tear. The NYT even commented that the kitchen counter tops were ‘well worn’. It’s clear parts of the garden aren’t maintained- so they clearly they don’t employ enough staff.
  • They no longer have a partner in NF. They lost the Spotify gig long ago.

What exactly are their income streams? As ever is going nowhere and will soon wind up. Harry has better up but that’s it. They are now having to do events like this to try and raise some cash!

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@Atlusvue

I agree with much of what you say. The very very slight disagreement is that given M is new to money ( relatively - ie H's money ) and had Hollywood aspirations - I wonder if that house was exactly what she wanted - it looks a bit faux 1920s in the manner of "Sunset Boulevard" the film. I wonder if that is what she was going for - old Hollywood glamour ?

Here - the house in the film.

https://martinturnbull.com/photo-blog/2015/08/03/norma-desmonds-mansion-in-sunset-boulevard-1950-at-641-s-irving-blvd-being-demolished-in-1957/

I do think it would take a lot of upkeep and I don't disagree - many with much money would have remodelled / rebuilt but I do wonder if that house was "the dream" for her.

Hope the link works

StrawberryWasp · 11/03/2026 13:06

I think the selling point for their house is the garden. It is gorgeous, and the only thing I envy her for.

With that though she could have really devoted herself to the gorgeous garden as her passion and done a series and book and had an insta account of her out everyday doing the hard work of upkeeping, learning and failing and creating such a beautiful garden which she's lucky to have. That could have felt genuine.

Instead she went for this shallow hostess thing, staged in some eles's house, with people she barely knows and trying to flog mass produced crap. While calling herself Duchess.

She's only really used her garden as a backdrop for fakearse advertising.

Nothing about her ever feels authentic. However many time she says 'authentic'.

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 13:07

BasiliskStare · 11/03/2026 12:35

@Atlusvue

I agree with much of what you say. The very very slight disagreement is that given M is new to money ( relatively - ie H's money ) and had Hollywood aspirations - I wonder if that house was exactly what she wanted - it looks a bit faux 1920s in the manner of "Sunset Boulevard" the film. I wonder if that is what she was going for - old Hollywood glamour ?

Here - the house in the film.

https://martinturnbull.com/photo-blog/2015/08/03/norma-desmonds-mansion-in-sunset-boulevard-1950-at-641-s-irving-blvd-being-demolished-in-1957/

I do think it would take a lot of upkeep and I don't disagree - many with much money would have remodelled / rebuilt but I do wonder if that house was "the dream" for her.

Hope the link works

I think she said that they were sold on the property just by looking at the garden, they hadn’t even seen the house yet. I don’t think the house was the selling point.
It’s a lovely location and it was a bargain basement price (for the rich). The reason why, was because the property was very dated, even though it wasn’t that old. These 90s McMansions get ripped down all the time, they hold no architectural interest.

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StillSpartacus · 11/03/2026 13:08

To be fair to Harry, living in something that was decorated a mere 20 years ago probably feels extremely modern compared with much of the Royal Estate. I’m not quite so sure M shares the same values though.

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 13:09

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 12:31

Oh is okay then isnt it if its timber frame lets just tear it down and then chop more trees down to build another timber framed house ffs. Dont you think thats awful to be wasting our natural resources and yes whilst more trees can be planted we aren't planting enough to sustain the current rate they are being cut down by.

What an awful attitude to have well its what rich ppl do and should do.

We should be encouraging people to do the opposite. To make things last as long as possible.

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This is what the very rich do, the sort of people that Meg n Harry hang around with and desperately want to be like.

The fact that they’ve done nothing to the McMansion, is nothing to do with saving the planet. It’s because they don’t have millions for extensive renovations.

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Serenster · 11/03/2026 13:10

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 11:11

Hilarious the attempts to try and say they aren’t in financial trouble.

  • They have let go most of their staff across the board - Archewell productions, Archewell Foundation and those connected to As ever
  • They closed down their foundation after only 5 years, and moved to a model where they have a financial sponsor and someone else takes on the admin costs. They couldn’t afford to keep the foundation
  • Any rich person, who would have bought that house, would have torn it down or at the very least did a complete refurbishment . They haven’t had the finances for this, they are still living with the kitchen table and chairs put in 20years ago by a Russian oligarch!
  • The house is showing wear and tear. The NYT even commented that the kitchen counter tops were ‘well worn’. It’s clear parts of the garden aren’t maintained- so they clearly they don’t employ enough staff.
  • They no longer have a partner in NF. They lost the Spotify gig long ago.

What exactly are their income streams? As ever is going nowhere and will soon wind up. Harry has better up but that’s it. They are now having to do events like this to try and raise some cash!

Edited

Relevantly, an article article about ARO in the New York Post said something interesting about this. It referred to “a source who knows the Sussexes” (obviously, could be Joe down the road for all we know!) who spoke about Mandana Dayani, who was the president of Archewell from May 2021 to December 2022. The article said:
Mandana was supposed to figure out a business that makes money, but she left…but I know that she pitched Meghan on a bunch of ideas”.
The article notes that Mandana Dayani declined to comment but I thought it did indicate that the couple know they need to come up with a solid income stream. They plumped for selling retail goods, but it seems that may not be panning out as they hoped (like so many of their ventures).

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 13:12

Serenster · 11/03/2026 13:10

Relevantly, an article article about ARO in the New York Post said something interesting about this. It referred to “a source who knows the Sussexes” (obviously, could be Joe down the road for all we know!) who spoke about Mandana Dayani, who was the president of Archewell from May 2021 to December 2022. The article said:
Mandana was supposed to figure out a business that makes money, but she left…but I know that she pitched Meghan on a bunch of ideas”.
The article notes that Mandana Dayani declined to comment but I thought it did indicate that the couple know they need to come up with a solid income stream. They plumped for selling retail goods, but it seems that may not be panning out as they hoped (like so many of their ventures).

That makes sense.

They must be spending more than what’s coming in right now.

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CreamolaFoam26 · 11/03/2026 13:22

there businesses have failed doesnt mean they are running out of money you dont know their personal finances and investments etc

Normally wealthy people live off the earnings from their investments and dont touch the capital. Harry and Meghan are not earning enough to cover their living and lifestyle expenses which means that they’ll be eating into their capital year on year. It really is that simple and I suspect all they want out of the Australia trip is the adoration they think they’ll generate along with enough income for appearances like the one Meghan is doing to cover the cost of their flights etc.

jeffgoldblum · 11/03/2026 13:27

atlus,
The lumber business in America is huge because almost all of their houses are built from wood, only certain wood can be used, talking about it in environmentally friendly terms obviously shows that poster is not American and has no idea about their housing industry.

bluegreygreen · 11/03/2026 13:46

Invictus Australia news
https://archive.ph/muIox

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/03/2026 13:50

I doubt Meghan, or Fergie 2.0 as I now like to call her hasn’t redecorated or renovated her dated McMansion because she wants to to save the planet 😂

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 13:52

CreamolaFoam26 · 11/03/2026 13:22

there businesses have failed doesnt mean they are running out of money you dont know their personal finances and investments etc

Normally wealthy people live off the earnings from their investments and dont touch the capital. Harry and Meghan are not earning enough to cover their living and lifestyle expenses which means that they’ll be eating into their capital year on year. It really is that simple and I suspect all they want out of the Australia trip is the adoration they think they’ll generate along with enough income for appearances like the one Meghan is doing to cover the cost of their flights etc.

Have you seen their accounts how do you know? Do you know how much they had to start with? What is invested and what it is earning. How many properties they might have earning them income? What do you know? Not enough just speculating

LoughNaFoo · 11/03/2026 13:55

bluegreygreen · 11/03/2026 13:46

Invictus Australia news
https://archive.ph/muIox

Does PH earn a fee for his Invictus work - or does he just claim expenses and use it as a free PR profile raising platform for him and his wife?

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 13:57

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 13:09

This is what the very rich do, the sort of people that Meg n Harry hang around with and desperately want to be like.

The fact that they’ve done nothing to the McMansion, is nothing to do with saving the planet. It’s because they don’t have millions for extensive renovations.

Its what they rich do lol so every rich person must so it. Give over.

No not everyone rich person does it.

People have different attitudes even when they are rich and it isnt always spend spend spend. Throwing away money unnecessarily.

Why tear down a house just be ause ots what other rich people do? How is that even a good reason?

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 14:00

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 13:52

Have you seen their accounts how do you know? Do you know how much they had to start with? What is invested and what it is earning. How many properties they might have earning them income? What do you know? Not enough just speculating

They’ve got rid of most of their staff and had to close down their charity because they couldn’t afford to run it.

How many glaring red flags do you need?

Why you can’t accept, that financially they are struggling which is why they are now having to sell selfies at influencer events, is beyond me.

If you’re that upset about their finances, help out and go buy some jam. If you spend $150 you get a free chocolate bar. That might cheer you up.

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AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 14:02

GoldBthehypo · 11/03/2026 13:57

Its what they rich do lol so every rich person must so it. Give over.

No not everyone rich person does it.

People have different attitudes even when they are rich and it isnt always spend spend spend. Throwing away money unnecessarily.

Why tear down a house just be ause ots what other rich people do? How is that even a good reason?

Uh huh we’ve heard your opinion on the house, they’re saving the planet.…yeh right.

They are desperate for money….which is why the are doing these cash grab events. It’s sad but it shows that they never had any talent, if they couldn’t make all those NF/Spotify deals they had work.

I seriously don’t understand why it’s upsetting to you.

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/03/2026 14:04

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 08:31

He’s off to a mental health summit.….2k a ticket. So he’s selling his title for cash too

Both of them hawking out their titles for cash and the Svengali Marcus Anderson at the centre of it.

AtIusvue · 11/03/2026 14:04

BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/03/2026 14:04

Both of them hawking out their titles for cash and the Svengali Marcus Anderson at the centre of it.

Yup

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