Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy Part 3

[simpsonthecat]

Here we are

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Hmm...I do think female infidelity was tolerated less & Margaret's behaviour would have been embarrassing at that time. But yes, there was latitude, and while sexual promiscuity wasn't seen as positive by Queen Mary's generation or King George VI's, stuff was hushed up & abuse probably wouldn't have been recognised.

I have no idea but he's been inside the Labour machine since Kinnock's time so it would be naive to think he hasn't got information he could trade.

My children and GC have no interest in the RF (too bothered with mortgages, jobs, Starmer, etc) and I've only become interested in the RF as I've got older - I couldn't have picked any of them out in a line up at their ages - possibly the Diana era sucked me in a bit as she was glamorous and interesting? Anyway, I agree with PP that W&C only have to stay out of trouble for the line of succession to be secured - it's not a popularity contest.

This is from 3 months ago. Lownie mentions the paperback version coming out. Andrew had to be physically restrained from going after Ferguson in fights

The conflict in Iran has taken the heat and media focus off the RF. I wonder if they are secretly happy about that right now.

Very probably

I really hope this BBC story (see link) means that the Met will be having a bloody good look at Andrew and his China ties. He’s been getting away with it so far - but enough is enough now.

In fact I think the Iran conflict might focus minds on who our allies are, and who are not our allies and are in fact hostile states.

As Dan Jarvis MP the Security Minister said earlier today, there can be no security trade off for economic access [to China].

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7955ewj7gwo

Partner of Labour MP arrested on suspicion of spying for China, BBC told

@TheAutumnCrowI immediately thought of AMW when I read that earlier.

@ChoccyJules
I thought of Zara Tindall and her business relationship with Johnny Hon.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14218019/Fergie-Zara-paid-hong-kong-tycoon-link-china-shady-network.html

Peter Phillips was also involved with Johnny Hon.

None of the royal adjacent sponges seem to care where or who the money comes from so long as it keeps flowing into the trough.

I'm fascinated at the philanthropy shown towards the "sponges". I wonder what it is in payment for, or is it just a gift for an open door or something.

Do the sponges actually do any work for this loot?

Great life for them isn't it, just having a name....

But it’s not something that will go away. So it might have taken the heat off temporarily, but the investigations will continue and the press will pick it up again. Like the article about B&E being banned from Royal Ascot or something to that effect.

Peter Phillips again. His company got £750,000 - the charities the party was purporting to be helping got £360,000.

• Phillips was paid for a two-year 'commercial services contract' to organise event
• He insists he didn't secure the contract because of his relationship to the Queen

Lol!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4288028/Peter-Phillips-paid-750-000-organise-Queen-s-90th.html

Peter and Zara don't seem to attract the same level of scrutiny. I wonder what an Andrew Lownie style focus would dredge up. Is it the case that AMW and SF were two isolated bad apples and everyone else in the RF has integrity and decency and is just trying their best? Or is anyone in the extended RF likely to fall pray to the same faults and pitfalls?

Peter and Zara do not have titles and have never been on the Civil List/ Sovereign Grant List .
Obviously their Royal connections have helped but unless shown otherwise , they don’t strike me as grifters .

So Zara lying about receiving £200,000 from Johnny Hon and only admitting it when the Daily Mail found evidence is not grifting? You're having a laugh there @Mylovelygreendress aren't you?

I think the picnic for queen's birthday and trousering a very lot of money plus the Chinese milk advert is a bit grifty to be honest
They both trade on their connections, not having titles is pretty irrelevant
At least his ice rink at Kensington Palace died a death

Peter and Zara are grifters, there have been a few stories about them. No idea about the extent of it though. These people just can’t help themselves. Snouts in the trough.

I think that Zara has been cut some slack because like her mother she’s an achiever in her sport. As opposed to other blood royals who are reputedly a bit dim and unaccomplished.

Zara is an Olympic silver medallist but it's not taking away from her achievements to say that being Anne's daughter helps enormously.

How much do she and Mike get for their Australia jaunts each year? Accomplished as she is, there must be equestrians who are who equally or more accomplished and don't get invited to similar.

In other news, I see Eugenie has stepped down from the Anti-Slavery Collective. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/08/princess-eugenie-daughter-of-prince-andrew-steps-down-as-patron-of-anti-slavery-charity

Why has it taken so long for Eugenie to step down? It was always bad optics given that her father was besties with a sex trafficker, and he had a decades long friendship with a convicted in prison sex trafficker (Ghislaine Maxwell)

She hasn’t stepped down from the Anti Slavery Collective (her own charity). She has stepped down from Anti Slavery International - the world’s oldest human rights organization founded in 1839 - which she was patron of for 7 years. Although there is no statement from her so perhaps she was dropped: “Eugenie’s profile has been removed from Anti-Slavery International’s website, which previously hailed her work “across the board with leaders in the fight against modern slavery”.”

From the article: She co-founded the separate charity, the Anti-Slavery Collective, with her friend Julia de Boinville, in 2017. In the year ending 5 April 2025, the charity spent more than twice as much on salaries (£191,537) as charitable programmes (£97,206), leading the Charity Commission to address concerns over expenditure.

Which reading between the lines tells me she has potentially been funnelling ASC donations to herself as salary and this, along with the Epstein files, means the highly regarded ASI have decided to drop her to preserve their reputation.

The MoS has been doing more digging on the princesses and their financial dealings https://archive.ph/IsaBf

Dear oh dear. Telegraph article archived because its behind a paywall.

A photograph that appears to show Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor with a young woman on his lap has been published by the US Department of Justice (DoJ).

Photos taken at Epstein's NY mansion. Charles obviously knew all this was coming up, I imagine he pushed Andrew to say if there was more to come out. Yet Andrew is protected on Sandringham private property

I am also reading a lot more about Beatrice and Eugenie this morning

archive.ph/MztSA

That’s woman in his lap looks very stiff and uneasy from her body language. It’s horrendous. What an absolute reptile he is.

Thanks for links.

The picture of the woman on MW's lap is disturbing. She looks uncomfortable to say the least while he's gurning away as if he's been awarded a trophy.

Yet Andrew is protected on Sandringham private property

Not only protected but installed in the more luxurious property he was holding out for that all reports had indicated he'd never cross the threshold to.