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Duke of Sussex & Others vs ANL: thread 3

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bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 13:46

This is the third thread discussing the case Prince Harry (and 6 others) are bringing against the Daily Mail (Associated Newspapers) for alleged unlawful information gathering (UIG).

Thread 1

Thread 2

Since the celebrities have given evidence, there has been limited direct reporting from court; what there is has mostly been on this link
Sky News link to court case

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Ballah · 31/03/2026 23:24

Baital · 31/03/2026 23:00

I assume Griffiths wouldn't have provided the info if it wasn't verifiable. It would be a crazy thing to do. So it looks as if she was a bit more involved with H and his circle than H said at the trial.

Unless it was someone impersonating H, of course.

Sounds like they were FWBs / shagging.

How / when / where and by whom were these texts publicised ? After the trial or as part of the trial evidence?

Lunde · 31/03/2026 23:26

Such cringeworthy texts....

Baital · 31/03/2026 23:27

Ballah · 31/03/2026 23:24

Sounds like they were FWBs / shagging.

How / when / where and by whom were these texts publicised ? After the trial or as part of the trial evidence?

Part of the trial from how I understood it? So perjury if deliberately false?

Lunde · 31/03/2026 23:33

Ballah · 31/03/2026 23:24

Sounds like they were FWBs / shagging.

How / when / where and by whom were these texts publicised ? After the trial or as part of the trial evidence?

It says in the Times article that Griffiths disclosed them to the court as part of her evidence. So pretty damaging to Harry's credibility.

Ballah · 31/03/2026 23:36

Lunde · 31/03/2026 23:33

It says in the Times article that Griffiths disclosed them to the court as part of her evidence. So pretty damaging to Harry's credibility.

Was this not disclosed during the trial
then - or just publicly made available after?

Lunde · 01/04/2026 00:25

Ballah · 31/03/2026 23:36

Was this not disclosed during the trial
then - or just publicly made available after?

It was disclosed in her written and oral evidence IIRC - but the actual texts have only been released at the end of the trial today.

Much of the evidence in this case is in the thousands of pages of written evidence and statements etc

bluegreygreen · 01/04/2026 00:41

Baital · 31/03/2026 22:54

Isn't the point about other trials that the newspapers accused have admitted illegal activity?

So there is no 'reheating previous evidence ' in this trial, unlike trials against other newspapers that have made that admission?

Agree.

This section of the BBC report is a bit misleading for exactly that reason - the other 2 groups that Harry took to court were found guilty at Leveson. He won (most of) his case against Mirror Group and settled with News Group.

But the judge in this case, Mr Justice Nicklin, wanted a manageable trial. In contrast to previous cases, he decided the seven claimants could not just be able to reheat evidence previously uncovered, or make general accusations against the newspapers.

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CraftyGin · 01/04/2026 06:23

Ballah · 31/03/2026 23:24

Sounds like they were FWBs / shagging.

How / when / where and by whom were these texts publicised ? After the trial or as part of the trial evidence?

My understanding is that it was implied/understood earlier in the trial that Harry called himself Mr Mischief. This evidence on the last day of the trial was a clarification that it was actually Charlotte Griffiths that used this name for him.

Honestyboxy · 01/04/2026 06:31

Lunde · 31/03/2026 23:26

Such cringeworthy texts....

They really don’t show him in a good light. Or her .

ThePoshUns · 01/04/2026 07:12

I’d love to be a fly on the wall in Monteshitshow right now

Carla786 · 01/04/2026 07:14

Honestyboxy · 01/04/2026 06:31

They really don’t show him in a good light. Or her .

Definitely!

ThePoshUns · 01/04/2026 07:21

I can’t see Harry winning his case. Doesn’t bode well for the others.

Mylovelygreendress · 01/04/2026 07:22

Slightly off topic but just spotted this on X

Duke of Sussex & Others vs ANL: thread 3
AlwaysRightISwear · 01/04/2026 08:53

CG doesn't come across particularly well but nothing illegal about it. Sordid perhaps.

GwendolineFairfax8 · 01/04/2026 09:09

ThePoshUns · 31/03/2026 20:11

So he’s lied to the court then in saying he never socialised with Charlotte Griffiths when he clearly has?

Thank you so much for sharing 👏

Perjury by ‘Prince’ Harry right there.

Mylovelygreendress · 01/04/2026 09:25

Ah but it’s his curated truth !!

Baital · 01/04/2026 10:01

bluegreygreen · 01/04/2026 00:41

Agree.

This section of the BBC report is a bit misleading for exactly that reason - the other 2 groups that Harry took to court were found guilty at Leveson. He won (most of) his case against Mirror Group and settled with News Group.

But the judge in this case, Mr Justice Nicklin, wanted a manageable trial. In contrast to previous cases, he decided the seven claimants could not just be able to reheat evidence previously uncovered, or make general accusations against the newspapers.

Yes, i thought it rather misleading.

bluegreygreen · 01/04/2026 11:47

Press Gazette summary of trial - again, sorry I can't archive

Press Gazette summary

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stayathomegardener · 01/04/2026 12:03

What a bombshell to end on, poetic that Harry opened and closed what feels like a play.

Justdancevance · 01/04/2026 12:08

Sherborne was allowed to review Levenson documents in advance of the trial to assist in his questioning but ANL never admitted wrongdoing at Levenson and no evidence to the contrary was produced as far as I’m aware that he was able to question the journalists.

bluegreygreen · 01/04/2026 12:14

@TheAutumnCrow linked to the transcript of the Leveson hearing earlier in the thread (or was it the previous thread? I forget).

It was interesting that even at that point the judge had to censure Sherborne for asking Paul Dacre questions which were off topic and for which he had been given no warning.

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bluegreygreen · 01/04/2026 12:23

Found it - it was on the previous thread.
https://archive.is/fqXNe

5.33pm: Lord Justice Leveson says that this particular dispute has achieved a significance "that maybe rather large than it merits" and that Dacre's statement details extensively his newspaper's relationship with Hugh Grant.
5:51pm: Lord Justice Leveson says that it is unacceptable for Dacre to be questioned on issues on which he has not been pre-notified, but accepts that the issue of Grant and the Mail's "mendacious smears" statement has become "totemic". He adds that it is fair to everybody that it is "resolved rather more carefully" than at present.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/04/2026 12:28

Justdancevance · 01/04/2026 12:08

Sherborne was allowed to review Levenson documents in advance of the trial to assist in his questioning but ANL never admitted wrongdoing at Levenson and no evidence to the contrary was produced as far as I’m aware that he was able to question the journalists.

Yes, the fact that AML weren't tarnished by Leveson was something I hadn't realised before these threads and I found it siginficant

I'm the first to back the media getting a hiding if they really have done what's claimed, but there has to be evidence and from the reporting it just doesn't appear to be there

As for who'll have to pay what, the risk of defeat is always there and frankly I've little sympathy. Just as nobody forced the guilty media to go for UIG, nobody was forcing the claimants to bring the case either - and that includes Doreen Lawrence

noonames · 01/04/2026 12:35

So if Harry has perjured himself, as it seems he might have done, is it likely anyone will do anything about that?

bluegreygreen · 01/04/2026 14:19

Daily Mail summary

DM summary

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