AMW arrested …

[fairmaidofutopia]

At last …. 😊

Yep. If a parliamentary Select Committee investigation happens, it’s usual for it to be done openly. Hopefully the committee into Andrew’s Rolex hunting ‘trade role’ will gain access to various papers and the process will open them up to the public.

But - the committee will have to take legal advice on not impacting any future prosecutions, presumably? This might lead to postponement or closed sessions.

What's a tad comical about this is that if Andrew's line in succession is removed, guess who's right in line to replace him at no 8?

Princess Beatrice.

It's all a bit Kind Hearts & Coronets.

If Andrew is removed from LOS, will his offspring not automatically also be removed ?

No. This question was covered in a news special last night and his 2 daughters would retain their princess title.

Ithink Beatrice and Eugenie will be removed too. Isnt it usually heirs and successors.

It’s all at preparation stage, for action after any legal proceedings. So I think government/parliament will have to wait and see what is uncovered with regards to B&E’s ‘business’ dealings, charitable money flows, acceptance of gifts, connections and honesty levels, before putting any proposals to the Commonwealth Realms.

I think they might be worried, though.

That was only a thing in the abdication to future proof from Edward VIII having children at a later point.

lighthearted

In terms of the line of succession I wonder if there’s a few politicians (and probably royals) wishing Andrew would find a sudden affinity with the Catholic Church to remove himself from the line of succession

That would be the simplest way!

I personally think Andrew , B&E and H&M should be remove from the line of succession. For different reasons . But deo volente it won't be necessary .

( Just to say due to spell check - that came up at Leo Violent - hope that doesn't appear )

And we have no idea how many other marginalised / nobody’s girls have taken this option or who have lived in despair after being trafficked and raped. VG herself NAMED 40 men. UK Police are investigating numerous flights into the UK. The scale of this is staggering - including on UK soil - so many women and girls lives will have been destroyed.

‘Best friend’ of King Charles has been wheeled on News Night (no less twice this week - Jonathan Dimbleby - to mouthing the concern for AMW’s welfare - 100% he would have been briefed to drop those messages by King Charles.

But you know this already @MrsLeonFarrellbecause we have discussed this already on this thread - so what is your agenda to deflect with using ‘friends of Andrew’ (no one is even aware he has any!) - when the point is ‘best’ friend of King Charles is doing all the media rounds - in omitting this information in your post?

This is giving me Ghilaine Maxwell on the run vibes / Deja- vu … before she was found holed up somewhere - maybe SF was AMW’s UK ‘fixer’ …. Or she knows far too much

I agree. This is the only way that society can get ahead of evil. IMHO there should be some sort of law that penalises the bystanders / blind eye. I recognise that there are livelihoods, ignorance and power at play - so the penalty needs to be greater on balance than these. There are always going to be psychopaths / wrong ‘uns amongst us - they will never see the light / have a moral compass - so it’s on the rest of society to shine a light by educating everyone on safeguarding and then overtly supporting and protecting whistleblowers and penalising blind eye by standers.

" Too busy arse licking the royals."

Or too busy arse-licking the arses of JE's mates?

My money is on the latter, with the RF ( not just ours) being collateral damage and targets of the latter.

I think it’s relevant for me to add here what I said on the Beatrice and Eugenie thread:-

that if I was them, I’d take the bull by the horns and announce, I would no longer be HRH Princess and would instead be Mrs husband surname.

Not York or MW, as puts them too close to their dad and they need distance.

I'm pretty sure any actual best friends of the royal family don't speak to the press. The press narrative may be that Dimblebey is the King's best friend but i doubt that's the case. I'm not spinning anything, this is an emergjng fast moving story and I tend to ignore press narrative and only look at statements, from all sides.

I agree that would be their best move but I'm not sure there is any evidence they would have the sense to do that.

They won't do that. Being royal got them rich husbands and a life of luxury. They won't give it up. Same with Harry and Meghan. Its all they've got.

This is why it needs to be Charles who streamlines this whole thing. The sensible ones will refuse the titles, the grasping ones will keep them. It needs to be a blanket rule for all of them. William should be looking at his own younger children and wondering what the future holds for them. Does he want them to be hanging round forever with no purpose? The whole Trade Envoy debacle was designed to give Andrew something to do. The RF really need to have a proper look around at their procedures. They need to look at the European Royals (I know they have their problems too but they cost less and do not look so bloated and out of touch) and follow what they do. They need to be far more transparent. It's their desperation for control that has left them so exposed.

Yes, there's the sense of being a custodian for the royal name, and you hand it on to your kids, like an heirloom, well, literally I guess.
You don't want to lose it.

But what if they did? It's then a short hop to Ms Nobody if a divorce then comes through, given they're married to millionaires. And it wasn't that long ago that everyone thought they were jolly nice sorts, maybe they still are but...

Neither of them are custodians of the Royal name though. Once they are gone it cannot be passed onto their kids.Everyone knows Zara is the granddaughter of The Queen and she benefits from it despite not having titles. What legacy will their kids have? Their granddad was the first Royals to be arrested for 400 years? Grandad and Grandma loved hanging round with paedos and took mum to his parties? Id get rid asap!

Well, yes I see what you mean @RainbowBagels but aren't B + E's kids currently in line to the thrown, however theoretically? I'm not saying they ought to be proud of being royal or anything - just saying there's a sense of, oh damn it, not on my watch, if only we wait this out it might come good.

I was kind of a moderate royalist until EII died. I quite like a bit of pomp and state occasions but the more I read the more I feel done with it all. I think in a few years the pressure on the Wales kids, particularly G&C, to rehabilitate the RF image is going to be awful. That in itself will probably come with horrible consequences.

It's becoming clear that an ancient tradition like the monarchy can't survive the age of the internet. It might be a long, drawn out death and maybe won't fully end in my lifetime but I think it's coming.

I agree with you.

Can you imagine what life will be like for the married ins for George and Louis? It will be absolute hell. It doesn't seem to affect the men, so Charlotte will be OK. The pressure on these three kids is going to be catastrophic I think.

I think the Palace need to sort out the relationship between the Monarchy and the media. It is too reliant on each other and causes no end of problems. And it will only get worse.

I agree, I think they will wither away and die (figuratively speaking of course!)

I’m another that thinks 20/30 years no monarchy. Will be just in my lifetime. I’d be very interested to see the transition. I just hope it’s not the cock up brexit was.