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AMW arrested …

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fairmaidofutopia · 19/02/2026 10:01

At last …. 😊

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billysboy · 19/02/2026 15:49

There are a lot people around MW that have enabled his vile behaviour by their silence
amazing how many people are in the Epstein files but no one saw ur heard anything
Andrew is a Nonce and I hope he goes to prison and get treated accordingly

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 15:52

For people upthread making suppositions about not being able to be tried twice for crimes, so this possibly being an 'arrangement' to protect AMW from other charges -

First, since the Criminal Justice Act 2003 it has been possible to retry people for in England, Wales & N Ireland (for serious crimes) if there is new and compelling evidence.

Secondly, there is no such crime on the statute book as 'Epstein-related crime'; being charged with one type of crime would not prevent AMW from being charged with another type if there was evidence to do so.

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 15:53

likelysuspect · 19/02/2026 15:44

Where did Gordon Brown get the information from?

I wonder? But as GB has a PhD in History and as a former lecturer, journalist, government minister, cabinet minister and PM, he should be pretty good at recognising the validity of a document.

jeffgoldblum · 19/02/2026 15:56

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 15:52

For people upthread making suppositions about not being able to be tried twice for crimes, so this possibly being an 'arrangement' to protect AMW from other charges -

First, since the Criminal Justice Act 2003 it has been possible to retry people for in England, Wales & N Ireland (for serious crimes) if there is new and compelling evidence.

Secondly, there is no such crime on the statute book as 'Epstein-related crime'; being charged with one type of crime would not prevent AMW from being charged with another type if there was evidence to do so.

Perhaps they are thinking of the film double jeopardy!

MoiraPlunkett · 19/02/2026 16:07

Differentforgirls · 19/02/2026 14:06

It’s a bit worrying that people think a KING giving money to a rape victim to shut her up is “honourable”.

“ I know my brother raped you and he’s denying it, but I believe you so here is some money to make up for it”.

Seriously?

Do you think that the “recompense” was enough and that her taking her own life had absolutely nothing to do with a powerful man paying her to keep her mouth shut?

Clearly, it's not something any sum of money can undo - the past cannot be changed. Money isn't about 'making up' for it, it's about giving the victim at least some choice and agency in the future - obviously this wasn't enough in this case, but what would have been, given that what had happened could not unhappen?

fairmaidofutopia · 19/02/2026 16:08

It strikes me that the majority or commentators are absolutely WAY off with their comments that ‘this does not affect the wider monarchy’ . I’m an older person and broadly in favour of consititionsl
monarchy but I have three adult children and their views and those of their friends are that this is enough and the whole lot have to go. It’s just not good enough to say ‘we didn’t know’ , no one believes these statements any longer. If KC3 wishes the institution to survive a very public and thorough investigations of ALL the RF dealings, who knew what and when and exactly what measures will be put in place to prevent such an awful abuse of power from ever happening again.

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Reddog1 · 19/02/2026 16:11

About time!

Hopefully the Trade Envoy files can be unsealed in due course.

Unicorn34 · 19/02/2026 16:21

I totally agree with everyone here who says AMB deserves everything he gets - I hope its not papered over (or whatever you call it) and that he is banged to rights.

I don't have the energy to discuss corpses or anything to do with them so I will hold my hands up to those who know more than me and say that JE probably was dead, I have listened to the wrong people and seen the wrong photos. I will now walk away with my head bowed and say no more. But will whisper that I do not believe he is dead 😉

Words · 19/02/2026 16:26

As he has not been charged proceedings are not deemed active under the contempt of court act. Nevertheless it pays to be careful.

edited due to autocorrect nonsense

Differentforgirls · 19/02/2026 16:34

MoiraPlunkett · 19/02/2026 16:07

Clearly, it's not something any sum of money can undo - the past cannot be changed. Money isn't about 'making up' for it, it's about giving the victim at least some choice and agency in the future - obviously this wasn't enough in this case, but what would have been, given that what had happened could not unhappen?

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He should have been arrested. That’s the bottom line. And anyone thinking that money would make up for being raped is a dysfunctional person.

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 16:41

Someone expressed irritation at AMW being called a 'scapegoat' for Americans.

I think AMW should account for anything he has done. I also think that while everyone is looking at him, they are not looking other more powerful men on both sides of the Atlantic.
As Boris Johnson put it a few days ago - 'all these powerful men' visited the island and no-one has given evidence, and only one woman is in jail.

Well, we now also have a disgraced prince arrested, and all the powerful men are still fine. I hope that eventually they are held to account.

Rictasmorticia · 19/02/2026 16:58

I think that this is the worst scandal to ever hit the Royal Family. Even the abdication didn’t come close as a lot of the general public had sympathy dor King Edward.

likelysuspect · 19/02/2026 17:15

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 16:41

Someone expressed irritation at AMW being called a 'scapegoat' for Americans.

I think AMW should account for anything he has done. I also think that while everyone is looking at him, they are not looking other more powerful men on both sides of the Atlantic.
As Boris Johnson put it a few days ago - 'all these powerful men' visited the island and no-one has given evidence, and only one woman is in jail.

Well, we now also have a disgraced prince arrested, and all the powerful men are still fine. I hope that eventually they are held to account.

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Boris Johnson speaking out?

Oh, well we know who's next then dont we!!!

hedgeknight · 19/02/2026 17:22

likelysuspect · 19/02/2026 17:15

Boris Johnson speaking out?

Oh, well we know who's next then dont we!!!

Did he? He defended AMW in 2015 and 2019

Frenchfrychic · 19/02/2026 17:29

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 15:39

I gather that Gordon Brown has sent a file of new information to the authorities. Good for him!

However much the RF have tried to separate AMW from the family in recent weeks; isn’t it pertinent that he was at the heart of the institution when he allegedly committed these offences?

I’m not really sure they can be held accountable, the queen was in the chair at the time, and clearly believed naively the best of her son and had no idea. It’s like saying if some rips off a company then all the employees are culpable. Andrew had his own office, lived in his own house and was independent in that.

did they all think he was sketchy prob, I mean Christ his nickname was Randy Andy, he was a renowned shagger, although everyone thought women of age and consensual, Charles counseled the queen against giving him the envoy role, saying he’d use it for his own ends, and the queen ignored it. The queen was iron fist level in control.

she made a bad decision, he was lying to her, and manipulating her. And now they are all playing the price.

i think andrew has a touch of the Harry about him, the resentment he wasn’t first born, the resentment his kids didn’t get what Charles kids got, the jealousy of his sibling and their family, the wealth, the power, the position, the security etc,

And I think he felt entitled, that it should have been him, and that drove a lot of his behaviour, in doing exactly what he wished without fear of consequence, and it also drove the queens, in trying to find him a role. Giving him so much Lee way, giving him the envoy role, the big house, the allowances, all out of a mother’s love.

and he just did whatever he wished, without fear of consequence, because he felt entitled to.

Zippedydodah · 19/02/2026 17:59

murasaki · 19/02/2026 14:14

I bet Fergie is shitting herself wherever she is. None of her 'friends' will be keen to take her in right now.

Do you think she’s still holed up in White Lodge?
I’m hoping that AMW shares a cell with Mandelson in due course, preferably one that’s cold, damp and malodorous……

NewspaperTaxis · 19/02/2026 18:03

It's a bit rum to compare Andrew's attitude with that of Harry's.

As for Epstein being alive, stranger things have happened. The real surprise is how the matter ever went to trial in the first place, you'd think he had got offed way beforehand, then I'm not sure we'd have heard any of this.

PippaToriFripp · 19/02/2026 18:10

I have to say all this has rather made me see QE2 differently.

I’ve never been a particularly staunch monarchist but always thought well of her as dedicated to her country and a generally good egg.

Now I think her defence of and her support for her absolute arsehole of a favourite child shows her as a disgrace.

Twonewcats · 19/02/2026 18:15

PippaToriFripp · 19/02/2026 18:10

I have to say all this has rather made me see QE2 differently.

I’ve never been a particularly staunch monarchist but always thought well of her as dedicated to her country and a generally good egg.

Now I think her defence of and her support for her absolute arsehole of a favourite child shows her as a disgrace.

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I don't know. I agree with u to an extent, but I'd hope that she didn't know the extent of what was going on.
If it came to light that she had known they were underage/nonconsenting etc, it would be awful. I am guessing, like a lot of parents, that Mummy believed the partial info he gave her, and that he didn't knowingly do anything too wrong

crasenda · 19/02/2026 18:16

PippaToriFripp · 19/02/2026 18:10

I have to say all this has rather made me see QE2 differently.

I’ve never been a particularly staunch monarchist but always thought well of her as dedicated to her country and a generally good egg.

Now I think her defence of and her support for her absolute arsehole of a favourite child shows her as a disgrace.

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It's well known that she interfered with legislation, for the good of the coffers of the RF naturally. Probably wielded more influence in the RFs favour than we will ever know about.

She was Queen, the Monarch, all powerful, no one went against her. To be fair to her, she played a great role sitting by the one bar electric fire eating her cornflakes from a tupperware dish didn't she? Just like us.

NewspaperTaxis · 19/02/2026 18:16

It's easy to have mixed feelings about the late Queen.

Early on in her reign there was time she was used to destabilise a regime in Iran, I think, The papers covered it recently, she was led by the nose but then again she was in her 20s I think and not worldly wise.

On top of which, something you learn is that the people are not quite powerful. Not really. They are figureheads, or pawns in the game. But 10 years before she was born, her Royal Russian relatives were murdered by the Communists. Now, that tends to concentrate the mind. Her husband was born a Greek. You sort of learn to find out who has the power in the country and stick close to them - had the Nazis invaded for instance, they'd have been dead.

If any of the Royals wanted to make your life a misery, put the Met on you, they could and probably would. You can't imagine they'd have stuck their necks out to look into some of the really nasty toxic State scandals that took place over the decades of their reign; it benefitted the Queen to have a bovine indifference to what went on.

wordler · 19/02/2026 18:25

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 16:41

Someone expressed irritation at AMW being called a 'scapegoat' for Americans.

I think AMW should account for anything he has done. I also think that while everyone is looking at him, they are not looking other more powerful men on both sides of the Atlantic.
As Boris Johnson put it a few days ago - 'all these powerful men' visited the island and no-one has given evidence, and only one woman is in jail.

Well, we now also have a disgraced prince arrested, and all the powerful men are still fine. I hope that eventually they are held to account.

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They’ve got to be a little worried that Andrew may offer up what he knows about other people for a deal.

People are getting nervous and holing up - probably with their legal teams.

Bill Gates has cancelled his appearance in India at a big AI conference this morning.

What worries me is Trump has total control of the FBI right now and will stop at nothing to protect himself and anyone else who he wants to.

Serenster · 19/02/2026 18:38

hedgeknight · 19/02/2026 17:22

Did he? He defended AMW in 2015 and 2019

I thought Boris Johnson had once said that dealing with Prince Andrew was the one thing that made him consider republicanism? 🤣

bluegreygreen · 19/02/2026 19:09

@hedgeknight It was an interview for Swedish TV - reported by Sky News

https://archive.is/XF03M (scroll down to the first item - it's an archive link of Sky's rolling news page).

Ihateboris · 19/02/2026 19:15

I know this is a serious matter....but this is hilarious

www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/RlSvJCRzh0