The funny thing about the Maitless interview is that on paper I'm not sure Andrew said anything that incriminating, which is why he was happy with it initially.
There was no 'Gotcha!' moment where Maitless said 'But hang on, you said a minute ago you'd never met Ms Guiffre' or some such thing.
But Andrew's boorish tone did it for him, for me that was the eye-opener. Referring to being in Tramps but saying the story about him paying for drinks couldn't be true in that instance 'because he doesn't carry money'. Charming! His dismissive reference to an ordinary 'hunting party' - not very relatable. Smirking that he would remember being in Pizza Express that day - because a person of his standing would remember being in a venue like that. As in, it's not the Savoy, is it. Being 'too compassionate' to ditch Epstein just like that.
That all said, despite there being no smoking gun at the time, these quotes later did for him when the emails came out.
Oddly, there are no references to anyone else ever seeing him at Pizza Express, nobody getting out their phones to snap him, not from staff or customers. So, is it possible that his using the word 'pizza' was some sort of cute or arrogant code to signal to his co-conspirators - if the word 'pizza' was code for something else?