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How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?

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Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 08:21

Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

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MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/02/2026 15:05

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:54

@MusicMakesItAllBetter if it could be argued he can't have a fair trial then there won't be a trial, therefore it is in everyone's interests, including any victims, that he has a fair trial

Fair point

Fends · 19/02/2026 15:05

StormyLandCloud · 19/02/2026 08:43

I’m in two minds, he personally though hasn’t helped or even been amicable with Andrew.

He was more “amicable” with Andrew than any of them. Fucking baffled as to why people can’t see that.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/02/2026 15:08

Meadowfinch · 19/02/2026 15:01

But what actual evidence can you put before a court that he is a predator? The police and courts cannot act without evidence.

Our justice system is based on innocent until proven guilty

On misconduct in public office however, there are email trails. Evidence. Which is why the police can act.

Let's hope the emails and photos unlock more to be able to prosecute but I don't know how the perpetrators will be brought to trial tbh.
This has happened to put everyone in a spin and distract from other things that have been passed.

HUGE injustice

treeowl · 19/02/2026 15:10

wrong post

treeowl · 19/02/2026 15:11

CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 14:45

According to Mumsnet, William is a sweet and innocent little soul who knows nothing about any anything dodgy happening in his family, and did not attend any meetings that may or may not have taken place about his uncle…..,

Yes & Meghan is evil because she used comic sans font on a jar 😱🙄

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 15:13

simpsonthecat · 19/02/2026 14:16

Do give over and credit posters on here with some intelligence!

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What then about Harry ? Is he complicit too? We had someone saying here the other day that Harry left because of this. Why did Harry not speak up then ?

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 15:13

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 13:55

That's not the point. Are you responsible or even know? No you don't.

That IS the point.

The reputation of the institution of the monarchy is paramount. William is a key figure in that institution.

When AMW carried out these alleged crimes he was a Prince of the realm and very much part of the institution too. He still is brother of the monarch. He has only had his title removed very recently and as I understand it he is still in the line of succession.

Honestly this is such a “let them eat cake” situation in terms of how poorly the RF have grasped the severity of this situation!

The institution had been given notice by senior members of the Foreign Office and intelligence sources that AMW was behaving inappropriately with women and had dodgy financial deals going on benefiting himself while being publicly funded in his role as Trade Envoy which lasted from 2001-2011.

If that is not good enough proof for you, even though Lownie would not publish that in a book if he didn’t have sound sources; nor would the publishers’ lawyers agree to have that published, there is all of the information that came up in the High Court relating to the Selman Turk case.

There are leaked complaints and published emails from FO officials about AMW’s inappropriate activities and noted comments about not wishing to act as his pimp.

There was an investigation in to AMW’s inflated travel expenses.

There is the Sunninghill sale.

There is the question marks over Pitch@palace

There is AMW’s business relationships with dodgy businessmen and Libyan gun smuggler friends! And him inviting them and an alleged Chinese spy to various palaces?

And what about his assistant allegedly passing documents to Andrew Epstein that were intended for government eyes only; that contained details of a high level trade meeting with Chinese politicians?

There is all of the information hidden in police protection logs, trade envoy papers, flight schedules. Let’s open those up if anyone is in any doubt!

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berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 15:17

Also as someone else previously said

How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?
sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 15:21

@Roadtripwithpretzels so why aren't those other people speaking up, why weren't they passing evidence to the police and if they have, why aren't those hiding it being investigated? More people in power, and not the RF, had means to stop Andrew, Epstein etc, why aren't they being vilified, investigated?

Does Lownie get the royalties from his book sales? Is he profiting from other people's crimes? Did he go to the police?

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 15:30

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:20

But why is it only Andrew being arrested? Again, if intelligence services etc knew about Andrew they must know about other people too. Epstein didn't just hold parties/get girls for Andrew, the other people at these parties weren't all innocent bystanders (some may have been). Why didn't Lownie go to the police with all his evidence

Lownie has offered his files on both AMW’s alleged financial and sexual misdemeanours to the appropriate branches of the police containing information that wasn’t included in the book because of legal reason, and no one has taken them up as yet!

Perhaps Gordon Brown will have more luck?

I don’t think the Met found anything in the Fawcett investigation did they?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/10/scotland-yard-assessing-complaints-against-prince-charless-former-aide

I am not sure that I entirely trust that the police can be totally objective when interviewing members of the RF.

Despite what Starmer is saying about everyone being equal under the law!

Scotland Yard ‘assessing’ complaints against Prince Charles’s former aide

Police examining whether Michael Fawcett breached Honours Act, after complaints made to Met chief Cressida Dick

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/10/scotland-yard-assessing-complaints-against-prince-charless-former-aide

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Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 15:31

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 15:17

Also as someone else previously said

I thought a pp said that only kicked in once someone has been charged?

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CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 15:38

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 15:13

What then about Harry ? Is he complicit too? We had someone saying here the other day that Harry left because of this. Why did Harry not speak up then ?

Because he is not the heir to the throne so presumably would not have been involved in meetings or discussions about AMW’s behaviour? And he certainly would not have been involved in anything that has happened recently. Unlike William, who presumably will have been.

CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 15:39

However, I suppose Harry could be subpoenaed as a witness. I do hope he is. It would certainly add to the gaiety of nations.

jeffgoldblum · 19/02/2026 15:40

CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 15:38

Because he is not the heir to the throne so presumably would not have been involved in meetings or discussions about AMW’s behaviour? And he certainly would not have been involved in anything that has happened recently. Unlike William, who presumably will have been.

I don’t see how! , apparently he’s always abroad on holiday!

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 15:46

A typical attempted thread derailment to keep bringing up Harry! 😁

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CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 15:56

jeffgoldblum · 19/02/2026 15:40

I don’t see how! , apparently he’s always abroad on holiday!

I thought he worked incredibly hard? The Williamites can't have it both ways!

jeffgoldblum · 19/02/2026 15:59

CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 15:56

I thought he worked incredibly hard? The Williamites can't have it both ways!

Neither can those who criticise! Either he’s lazy , workshy , uninterested and on holiday all the time or he’s diligently involved in everything and constantly working behind the scenes with his finger in every pie!
ps making up silly nicknames for people who don’t share your opinion is childish 🤷‍♀️

treeowl · 19/02/2026 15:59

Williamites

😆

treeowl · 19/02/2026 16:00

Is the thread getting derailed, can’t criticise poor Willy can we!

RainbowBagels · 19/02/2026 16:03

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 15:21

@Roadtripwithpretzels so why aren't those other people speaking up, why weren't they passing evidence to the police and if they have, why aren't those hiding it being investigated? More people in power, and not the RF, had means to stop Andrew, Epstein etc, why aren't they being vilified, investigated?

Does Lownie get the royalties from his book sales? Is he profiting from other people's crimes? Did he go to the police?

They did. Repeatedly over many years. Some were ignored, some were threatened with removal from their posts and being put on traffic duty. They were threatened with , somehow, their pensions being affected, by the Palace. This goes right through our institutions. If people want a Constitutional Monarchy then this blind deference by institutions cannot be tolerated.

CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 16:04

jeffgoldblum · 19/02/2026 15:59

Neither can those who criticise! Either he’s lazy , workshy , uninterested and on holiday all the time or he’s diligently involved in everything and constantly working behind the scenes with his finger in every pie!
ps making up silly nicknames for people who don’t share your opinion is childish 🤷‍♀️

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I assume he actually does the basic admin of his role. And this stuff is hardly behind the scenes minutiae, is it?

treeowl · 19/02/2026 16:04

They were threatened with , somehow, their pensions being affected, by the Palace

Really?

Dollymylove · 19/02/2026 16:05

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/02/2026 14:52

Not have a fair trial? He's a predator and the lowest scum of the earth

But he is still entitled to a fair trial
Like everyone else. Even the Yorkshire Ripper, along with all the other high profile offenders.
Just saying he's predator and scum isnt enough to put someone jail, dont u know?

Cheese55 · 19/02/2026 16:08

It won't go to trial, the Police will say they haven't got enough evidence of wrong doing and hope it will go away

Whatacircus · 19/02/2026 16:08

My God!!! What the hell is wrong with some posters on here??? Of course William knew of the stink not only around Andrew but also his father. I couldn't give a damn about Harry, what he knew, what he said or didn't say. For that matter as someone stated earlier, neither do I care about how many strawberries are in a pot of his wife's jam.
What I do care about is those who are no longer with us as a direct or indirect result of the actions of Andrew and others. Those whose businesses suffered, lost jobs etc as a result of dodgy trade deals.
The whole bloody lot of them knew this was coming hence the sudden movements over the past few months.
It's sickening that some are here on this thread still trying to deflect, minimise and assert that William didn't know. If you are mothers I hope you never have to stand at a a grave or look at an urn with the ashes of your child due to the actions of powerful people who were protected and enabled for years. Neil spoke out and was demonised in writing by Andrew's brother.
Go back to your jam threads but don't continue to stand up for a spineless family whose only interest is to protect themselves, their power and their wealth. #WilliamKnew

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