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How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?

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Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 08:21

Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

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OneBusyFinch · 19/02/2026 13:56

Whatacircus · 19/02/2026 13:25

Today's arrest hasn't just happened out of the blue. They have known it was coming for a long time hence the new home, the stripping of titles and all the other actions, to steal a phrase, theyve been getting their ducks in a row.
Pathetic deflecting for a long time from some on here when some posters have raised the issue of Andrew. Dismissive and oh here we go again brigade, we all condemn Andrew so let's get back to the bitching about others. The behaviour of that sleazy, rotten piece of sh*t and his enablers is disgusting and those who tried to minimise it, shame on you all.
Charles has many questions to answer about his close relationships with other abusers. His defence of Peter Bell is not defensible as I have witnessed some on here try to do previously. A 44 year old man in his position writing a letter of support to a man who had just received a police caution for abusing young boys. RIP Neil Todd.

RIP Neil Todd

The words from Charles’ letters shows the complete lack of critical thinking and the basic common sense to appreciate there are always two sides of any story. It also shows just what the ‘royals’ are prepared to do to protect someone they ‘believe in’ - not much has changed has it? Namely the way they all sought to ‘see off’ Virginie

How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?
sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 13:57

If I had a brother who I thought was dodgy but I had no actual proof that would stand up in court, I could post something on social media saying I thought he was guilty, very few people would see it, and it would likely be possible for there to be a fair trial if the police found what was considered sufficient evidence. However, if Charles or William posted something saying they thought Andrew was guilty that would go viral, and Andrew could quite rightly say he could not have a fair trial

Jbum · 19/02/2026 13:58

William is the future monarch he will have been in meetings where key decisions about Andrew were made. We know this because he was part of the Sandringham summit where he, the late queen and Charles discuss Harry and his leaving.

So I call bs on anyone saying he wouldn't know, he knew and was a part of any meetings and decisions

Dollymylove · 19/02/2026 14:03

Andrew has been arrested for misconduct in public office.
No arrest of Mandelson though. I wonder why that is?

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 14:05

Jbum · 19/02/2026 13:58

William is the future monarch he will have been in meetings where key decisions about Andrew were made. We know this because he was part of the Sandringham summit where he, the late queen and Charles discuss Harry and his leaving.

So I call bs on anyone saying he wouldn't know, he knew and was a part of any meetings and decisions

Edited

I agree they all knew he was a problem BUT what did they know ? You are all guessing. It's tittle tattle along with all the other AI and other tat stuff out there. By gossiping and making stuff up you are muddying the waters and hiding the real victims.

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 14:09

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 14:05

I agree they all knew he was a problem BUT what did they know ? You are all guessing. It's tittle tattle along with all the other AI and other tat stuff out there. By gossiping and making stuff up you are muddying the waters and hiding the real victims.

Oh fhs.

This has gone far beyond tittle tattle. Lownie has doubly verified sound sources in the intelligence services and the diplomatic service who informed the late Queen about AMW’s nefarious activities years and years ago! And they were sent away with a flea in their ear. Please read Entitled.

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Zebedee999 · 19/02/2026 14:10

Roadtripwithpretzels · 19/02/2026 08:21

Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

I assume you take resposnibility for all your uncle's misdemeanours too? Or is it just others you hold to those standards?

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:14

@Roadtripwithpretzels so why didn't the security and intelligence people do something, the Queen couldn't arrest Andrew.

And in fact has Lownie scuppered the chances of a fair trial by publishing stuff like that.

simpsonthecat · 19/02/2026 14:16

berthasbloomers · 19/02/2026 14:05

I agree they all knew he was a problem BUT what did they know ? You are all guessing. It's tittle tattle along with all the other AI and other tat stuff out there. By gossiping and making stuff up you are muddying the waters and hiding the real victims.

Do give over and credit posters on here with some intelligence!

Muffinmam · 19/02/2026 14:17

I agree so much with everything you’ve said.

The Royal family is utterly necrotic.

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:20

But why is it only Andrew being arrested? Again, if intelligence services etc knew about Andrew they must know about other people too. Epstein didn't just hold parties/get girls for Andrew, the other people at these parties weren't all innocent bystanders (some may have been). Why didn't Lownie go to the police with all his evidence

Dazedandconfused28 · 19/02/2026 14:27

I'm in 2 minds about this.

A relative of mine was accused of abuse.

I was once accosted in a public place, not by a victim - but someone who knew the story - questioning me about what I knew, what did I have to say about it & then a string of profanities.

I was never close to said relative & was shocked to be being held accountable for his alleged crimes.

RainbowBagels · 19/02/2026 14:32

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:20

But why is it only Andrew being arrested? Again, if intelligence services etc knew about Andrew they must know about other people too. Epstein didn't just hold parties/get girls for Andrew, the other people at these parties weren't all innocent bystanders (some may have been). Why didn't Lownie go to the police with all his evidence

Hes not been arrested for the sex stuff. Its the passing of confidential files. Thats a British investigation. Lownie said he did pass information on and it was ignored. He has also been obstructed over and over again in his investigations.

MidWayThruJanuary · 19/02/2026 14:33

@sittingonabeach
Andrew has been arrested for his activities as Trade Envoy, passing on confidential government information and basically insider dealing.
He has not been arrested for any sexual crimes.

MidWayThruJanuary · 19/02/2026 14:34

@sittingonabeach
Andrew has condemned himself by the emails sent by him and on his behalf. Nothing to do with Lownie.

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:35

@RainbowBagels I know he hasn't been arrested about the sex stuff, but if the intelligent services etc knew all about his nefarious activities sex or trade why haven't they done something about it (and about the other people involved). Why expect the RF to do it, when they won't have the same evidence that the intelligence services etc had

Jbum · 19/02/2026 14:38

Come on, they would have seen e erupting years ago im those files. These people dont stay powerful by not k owing anything. You have to be utterly naive to think that.

Williams new crisis manager will be working full time now...they say they didnt know he was going to be arrested but hmmm.....really...I dont believe anything coming out of the palace.

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:38

And whilst we are all concentrating on Andrew, there are many other people getting away with what they did, and there are more people than the RF who know who these people are and who will have the evidence

RainbowBagels · 19/02/2026 14:40

Q2C4 · 19/02/2026 13:50

So our upstanding politicians would control the assets instead?

They do. Because the RF dont own it. And yes, they have done a shit job because they hand the RF millions in part to maintain the Crown Estate but they dont do anything when the RF dont maintain them. The RF arent seaparate from the establ7shment. They arecthe establishment. Blind deference from politicians when it comes to holding the RF to account is a huge part ofbthe problem.

CurlewKate · 19/02/2026 14:45

Jbum · 19/02/2026 13:58

William is the future monarch he will have been in meetings where key decisions about Andrew were made. We know this because he was part of the Sandringham summit where he, the late queen and Charles discuss Harry and his leaving.

So I call bs on anyone saying he wouldn't know, he knew and was a part of any meetings and decisions

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According to Mumsnet, William is a sweet and innocent little soul who knows nothing about any anything dodgy happening in his family, and did not attend any meetings that may or may not have taken place about his uncle…..,

Dazedandconfused28 · 19/02/2026 14:48

Not a challenge - but what else do people feel Prince William should have done?

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/02/2026 14:52

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 13:57

If I had a brother who I thought was dodgy but I had no actual proof that would stand up in court, I could post something on social media saying I thought he was guilty, very few people would see it, and it would likely be possible for there to be a fair trial if the police found what was considered sufficient evidence. However, if Charles or William posted something saying they thought Andrew was guilty that would go viral, and Andrew could quite rightly say he could not have a fair trial

Not have a fair trial? He's a predator and the lowest scum of the earth

sittingonabeach · 19/02/2026 14:54

@MusicMakesItAllBetter if it could be argued he can't have a fair trial then there won't be a trial, therefore it is in everyone's interests, including any victims, that he has a fair trial

Q2C4 · 19/02/2026 14:59

RainbowBagels · 19/02/2026 14:40

They do. Because the RF dont own it. And yes, they have done a shit job because they hand the RF millions in part to maintain the Crown Estate but they dont do anything when the RF dont maintain them. The RF arent seaparate from the establ7shment. They arecthe establishment. Blind deference from politicians when it comes to holding the RF to account is a huge part ofbthe problem.

The crown estate is not government property. It’s a “corporation sole.” The sovereign (but not the royal family) has official ownership which passes monarch to monarch, uninterrupted.

Meadowfinch · 19/02/2026 15:01

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/02/2026 14:52

Not have a fair trial? He's a predator and the lowest scum of the earth

But what actual evidence can you put before a court that he is a predator? The police and courts cannot act without evidence.

Our justice system is based on innocent until proven guilty

On misconduct in public office however, there are email trails. Evidence. Which is why the police can act.

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