What is likely to happen to the Sussexes?

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When the money stops flowing in? They are finished as a brand, MM has nothing original to offer and is tainted with the toxicity that has surrounded them. She personally has ‘bullying’ allegations and high staff turnover as well as her blatant dishonesty. There is evidence that they are no good at making podcasts / documentaries etc so no big income there. There is increasing ‘interest’ from US authorities into their financial dealings … what next? Surely KC3 won’t fund them, so how will they keep going?

Yes, i do think it was a coincidence.

There hasn't been anything in their statements or behaviour to suggest a connection.

In fact, some of their behaviour seemed to be heading down the route of 'friendships' based on rich people funding the lifestyle they want rather than settling for the lifestyle they can afford.

Hopefully Andrew shows them where that can end...

I see the rewriting of history is in full flow again. If you refer to their own statement it clearly states they wanted to split their time between the UK and USA so their children would be part of the heritage into which they were born, so clearly not concerned about paedophiles in the Royal Family. They stayed best buddies with Eugenie after Andrew’s disastrous interview as well. Happy to name their daughter after the Queen who protected Andrew, happy to be best buddies with Marcus Anderson from Soho House whose boss Ron Burkle was a frequent flyer with Epstein, but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story.

👏 👏

And if Harry and Meghan were “used” as a so called deflection, then they must have been fully on board with it, I know say’s Harry! Let’s tell the world that you are all a bunch of racists that will keep the heat of Uncle Andy! Great idea Harold says William, Kate says she’s fully on board to be the fall guy, go for it bro!

I agree. I think it was a coincidence. They kept in touch with the Yorks. None of them, not Harry, not William, not TLQ, not Charles or any of his siblings gave a toss about any of it until it started coming down on their heads. Suddenly everyone is 'concerned' once people started sniffing into their own affairs and people start asking what they did when this was happening under their noses. Harry is a royal and he was brought up as a Royal, with the same sense of entitlement. He couldn't care less about anything except his own needs. Just like all of them.

What exactly have Harry and Meghan said about Andrew since their departure to North America?

Shall we refresh some memories? There was one strange passage in Spare, where Harry says even an accused sex abuser in the family gets better secoority than he does (so Harry centring himself as usual); and a denial that there were fisticuffs between them.

(I’ll dig out the full quote from Spare.)

And they stayed friends with the Yorkies.

Harry doesn’t give a fuck about Andrew’s criminality. I doubt he understands it.

And considering they have free reign to say what they like when they like as they are not under the constraints of the Institution then they have both been remarkably silent on this issue, tumble weed in fact, isn’t silence complicity?

Their silence is interesting, particularly as they have form for commenting on current affairs. Maybe H feels sorry for his cousins.

I don’t think consideration and care for relatives feelings are Harry’s strong point.

Rubbish

I know this will annoy certain posters but just my regular reminder

Thank you @Mylovelygreendress I knew I could rely on you to post the facts despite other posters not liking it.

Nothing wrong with a reminder, @Mylovelygreendress
If posters insist on inventing new "reasons" they left, even though they object to others speculating and the "reasons" don't match what was said, it seems only fair to point out the facts

If posters don’t think Harry and Meghan don’t have their own skeletons in the closet then they are very naive indeed! ( or deliberately sticking their heads in the sand)

In Harry and Meghan’s own words, they wanted what the Yorks had !!. It’s amusing to see their fans try to pretend otherwise.

Oprah: So you left because you were asking for help and couldn’t get it?

Harry: Yeah, basically. But we never left.

Meghan: We never left the family and we only wanted to have the same type of role that exists, right? There’s senior members of the family and then there are non-senior members. And we said, specifically, ‘We’re stepping back from senior roles to be just like several . . .’ I mean, I can think of so many right now who are all . . . they’re royal highnesses, prince or princess, duke or duchess . . . who earn a living, live on palace grounds, can support the Queen if and when called upon.

I think it was Lownie that wrote something about Harry punching Andrew in 2013? And Harry put out a statement denying it? Harry really doesn't have his finger on the pulse!!

It's ridiculous to suggest that H & M leaving was anything to do with Andrew... They're too concerned with themselves ..

Not advocating violence but I would have had a smidgen of admiration for Harry if he had walloped AMW!

That was the funny part, without fail everywhere on SM people were saying ‘good on Harry’, for a moment he gained a bit of respect, then he issues a strongly worded statement to say he never hit his uncle Andrew and his uncle Andrew never said anything critical about Meghan.

Really ? ☺️☺️☺️

I mean, she had a point. All the cousins are doing the same thing. Making money that they wouldn't be making if they didn't have titles, yet they turn up for family events, are now turning up to garden parties etc. What are Bea, Eug and Zara doing in the Middle East all the time? Would they be there if their uncle wasnt The King? TBH the non working Royals can stand around on balconies if they want. It makes little difference if they are cutting a ribbon at a care home or not frankly to whether they turn up to a family party. Personally, I can't think why they wouldn't be allowed to have the same as what the cousins have. Harry's role was always going to get more and more insignificant, as do all the 'spares'. So why not let them do their own thing just like the cousins? I wonder what Charlotte and Louis are going to make of their role when they are adults, because they will be the ones sat around for the rest of their lives not really having a role apart from a few charity events here and there. If their father wants to do less, what will they be expected to do? Just work for Earthshot? Or do nothing?

Not exactly . My understanding was that they still wanted to carry out certain Royal duties but be selective about them plus they certainly expected 24/7 security ( unlike Zara etc). And although they agreed to give up their share of the Sovereign Grant , they clearly expected Pa to keep supporting them
financially.
Harry himself said he told Meghan they would never remove his security and we all know his feelings about being “ cut off” by Pa .

Who on earth has ever seen any member of the royal family as a role model? The whole thing is an anachronism in this day and age and that is before we get onto the AMW scandals that they all knew about for well over a decade and were complicity in covering up and hoping it us plebs could be hoodwinked.

Charles is a double billionnaire. I'm sure hes not having to decide between 'heating and eating' because he has to bung Harry a few quid!
Was the exact same thing as the cousins have offered to them? I'm not defending them, I just don't know but if what Meghan has said there is what they wanted, I can see how they thought it was hypocritical that they couldn't have exactly what all the other grandchildren of The Late Queen had. I think going forward that's what its going to have to be. Its unsustainable to have such a large number of people on the public payroll doing very little really.

But as I said , they still wanted 24/7 security which none of the cousins have plus pick and choose events .
So not the same .

Well if they hadn’t gone scorched earth they could have had exactly what the others had, such as Mike and Zara, attendance at garden parties, balcony appearances as non working royals etc. they could have had it all but that wasn’t enough, they wanted to “collaborate” with the senior members of the RF and the Queen, the other cousins don’t “collaborate” they are invited to whatever event the Monarch decides to invite therm to, plus the cousins don’t represent the British Government and don’t receive 24/7 armed security which Harry and Meghan expected to retain, basically they blew it big time.