What is likely to happen to the Sussexes?

[fairmaidofutopia]

When the money stops flowing in? They are finished as a brand, MM has nothing original to offer and is tainted with the toxicity that has surrounded them. She personally has ‘bullying’ allegations and high staff turnover as well as her blatant dishonesty. There is evidence that they are no good at making podcasts / documentaries etc so no big income there. There is increasing ‘interest’ from US authorities into their financial dealings … what next? Surely KC3 won’t fund them, so how will they keep going?

I thought we weren’t supposed to believe the toxic British media? 🤷

As @jeffgoldblumpointed out to you, you have the wrong end of the stick here. However I am shocked that you seem to be saying that because others around you use certain words it's then ok for a person to use those same words. If Harry had used the N word then it would just be situational terminology and not racism?

Yes. The Sussexes are now quite boring.

All they really have is the royal titles, and the royal adjacency that goes with it.

That royal adjacency is looking very toxic right now. It just is. No ifs, no buts.

Hate coming back to a thread and somethibg’s been deleted. Pure FOMO……🤣

William is the next heir we k ow the future heir is in training for most of their lives so they can take over. Of course they meet up and have meetings we know this because of the Sandringham Summit in January 2020, where the Queen Charles, and William met to discuss Harry and Meghan's decision to step back as senior royals.
Therefore you can say they do meet and high level meetings. They would have met up to discuss Andrew too.
Unless, as many think, they think flapping your gums and airing grievances about them is more serious than all the myriad things AMW has done. They probably thought it was all fine because Uncle Andrew wasnt doing any royal duties and all his trade envoy murky dealings were sealed, so job done. They didnt account for all the things theyd swept under the carpet to be swept out by the US!

I don’t think the US has the moral superiority here. Not one person from America has been indicted over the sex trafficking of young women despite their names appearing in the documents including its President name appearing countless times. And there’s 3 million further documents to come out.

Obviously I’m speculating.But presumably there are meetings/discussions about the direction/future of the family?

There very probably are, @CurlewKate, but I don't suppose for an instant that they're invite anyone in government to them

Regardless of exactly who knew what - and naturally they'll all deny it - it's becoming ever clearer that they have a LOT to hide, and I really can't imagine them allowing "the little people" in on that

Oh, I agree. But my point was that it seems to me incredibly unlikely that this is the first William is hearing of it!

They definitely havent got moral superiority but the RF relied on the British establishment to cover for them and forgot that the rest of the world can do what they like. They can dish the dirt on them to protect their own, and they have.
Listening to this weeks ' when it hits the fan' podcast, they said that NBC news had a picture of Mohammed Bin Salman with Epstein. So the ' soft power' of William going to Saudi to help the Saudis greenwash and rehabilitate their image didnt cut through there. I do wonder if any of the US news networks will have a poke at Harry about this. That will be fun!

and it’s the American government and others doing exactly the same thing? It would be nonsense to suggest that they aren’t

Or an alternative view could be it was deliberately hidden from William so if the shit hit the fan he would be in the clear of knowing anything. The RF is all about survival at the end of the day. The point is that no one here knows who knew what and when yet. Yes we can guess what might and might not have happened but until it comes out we are in the dark

That’s a great analogy. I don’t feel sorry for them though. They have had privileges
and options the rest of us can only dream of and they squandered them.

Im not quite sure what your argument is. Yes they are both awful, but Congress has forced Trump to release the files. They have, and its implicated AMW hugely because he was there, in the thick of it. If those files hadnt been sealed the UK government would have had control of the narrative. If TLQ and the government of the day hadnt allowed AMW to behave the way he did, they would have nothing to fear. Although by all accounts ( and from memory) he was a dreadful trade envoy, did more harm than good and was universally loathed, so really the only reason to keep him in that role for so long would have been to keep on the right side of the RF. We have no control over what other countries do. They couldnt care less about AMW or whether the BRF want government officials to keep secrets for them.

It’s implicated a lot of people not just Andrew and they should ALL face the same justice. Plus you don’t know who kept secrets or who didn’t. But I do agree he was universally loathed as trade envoy as well as everything else he was disliked for.

For someone who was supposed to be a millionaire when she married, she was very short on assets.

No property owned.

Vehicle leased.

Rental home in Toronto paid for by the production company.

No vast collection of jewels.

No exclusive designer bags.

Very much agree, well said 👏👏👏

And let’s publish the Trade Envoy papers too!

They could put things on sale to move stock!

There are other new friends in their orbit who also have rumoured unsavory backgrounds.

• which ones?

You’re an historian? With which university are you affiliated?

Why on earth would they tell you that? So you could trot off to said establishment? Many people dislike Meghan because she comes across as manipulative and not a likeable woman nothing to do with race!

I have to agree the suggestion that the salivating over the prospect of M&H spending all of their money shouts that the OP is a historian. Rather a gossip.

Well, nobody does, because all the documents have been sealed. Thats the problem.

I mean, a historian is just someone who studies history. It doesnt make you someone who is immune to gossip (see that woman who thinks Richard III told her where he was buried in a dream)

@fairmaidofutopia- your initial premise- that they are finished as a brand - what has led you to make that conclusion?

The data from news websites around the clicks for stories involving them is still very high compared to other celebrities. The public are still clearly very interested. All the evidence we can get related to her online food shop is that it’s doing very well and making them money.

They are both very popular in that the world is still interested in whatever they do. Any event that has Harry and/or Meghan at it will get you extensive attention and coverage. That public interest is something that is sellable. She’s get him in the right location for monetising fame.