What is likely to happen to the Sussexes?

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When the money stops flowing in? They are finished as a brand, MM has nothing original to offer and is tainted with the toxicity that has surrounded them. She personally has ‘bullying’ allegations and high staff turnover as well as her blatant dishonesty. There is evidence that they are no good at making podcasts / documentaries etc so no big income there. There is increasing ‘interest’ from US authorities into their financial dealings … what next? Surely KC3 won’t fund them, so how will they keep going?

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I hope you're right. They would not have done it of their own accord, I dont think but they may have to now to save their own skin.

I agree @Benjithedog @LidlAmaretto and @Thedom

KC will never have a better opportunity than he has now to make the necessary organisational changes, Remove all titles from the Yorks and Sussexes and remove the option of using titles for Louise and James.

KC should not be putting this off for William to deal with.

I’ve said before titles for monarch, heir and their heir only, possibly Prince/Princess for dcs of monarch. Titles for working royals. Keep them when retired. Not a working royal then no titles.

Its the obvious way to do it, and how other RF's in Europe have started to do. What are possibly 8 full time Royals going to be doing (assuming George Charlotte and Louis marry)?

I also agree with this

I agree with what’s said about the title only the direct line should have it - Eugenie, Beatrice, Archie and Lili don’t need it.

Agree, no need for Anne, Edward or Sophie either.

I think W&K would get a lot of respect if they said Charlotte and Louis would not use the Prince/Princess titles and would be free to make a life for themselves outside of the RF. They are still family but family dont all have to be forced into the family firm.

They won’t do that though, I think they love the lifestyle and want the status for their children….just not the ‘work’ that comes with it. As William and Kate have dodged the work though, they’ll think their kids can too. It seems like an awful life to me but they can’t see it.

No I don't think they will either. They will judt hire another PR to put out more puff pieces but if the choice is no Monarchy or small Monarchy they may take it.

I think styling the children of the monarch and the direct heirs as Prince/ Princess is ok. So Charlotte keeps it, but her children do not. Edward and Sophie are Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh, Anne should keep her title / she already chose not to style her children as Royalty. Beatrice / Eugenia / Archie and Lili need to lose it. Like now

Obviously if they keep the titles it makes them more marketable in the US as curiousities

Agreed. Charlotte's children already cant be Prince/ Princess. What needs to change is Louis children. They shouldn't have it either. There is really no reason not to do it. It makes no sense for Louis children to be Prince/Princess, and it makes no sense for Bea, Eug, Archie, Lilli to have it either.

The titles used by the RF are set by the decisions made by George V in 1917. Only the children of the monarch are princes and princesses. In the next generation the children of the heir apparent (or presumptive in the case of a girl before the LibDems drove a horse and cart through constitutional arrangement thus making the advent of a female monarch even less likely than it was before because they did not add to the requirement 'born of the body of the wife of the prince' the line 'naturally conceived') have the style prince or princess. An exception was made for Princess Charlotte since she was the great-grand-daughter of the monarch and not the heir apparent (that was George). Andrew apparently threw a hissy fit over his daughters, but removing their titles now, when they have done nothing wrong, would be unjust. Edward's children have the choice of being prince or princess since his children could not be treated differently from Andrew's. Anne chose to ditch the lot, which was sensible.

There is no reason to change any of this.

@Grammarnut According to Debretts thats not correct
https://debretts.com/who-can-be-a-prince-or-princess/

The children of the Monarch and the grandchildren of the Monarch through the male line are entitled to be Prince/ Princess. Princess Anne refused a title for Mark Phillips to make her children Lord/Lady. They could never be Prince/ Princess. What people are saying is that it shouldnt be children down the male line but children of the heir and thats it. There is a need to change the rules not least because the rules are incredibly sexist.

Whether he's an acting member of the RF or not he's still the Kings Son so will never go short. He'll have money left to him in inheritance, will no doubt still get an allowance from his Mothers estate & the US will still view him as a royal so he'll be paid for all sorts from interviews, books etc.

The US opinion of both of them seems to be on the downward spiral. He was the novelty act for a while but this has now worn thin.

Totally anecdotal, but I was in a couple of quite different US states recently and everyone seemed to want to talk to me about Meghan and Harry, and all of them really hated the pair of them, especially her. I was quite surprised.

My prediction:

Harry does his Netflix documentary about Princess Diana.

The island at Althorpe where she is buried is turned into the C of E equivalent of Lourdes.

Meghan sets up a gift shop selling souvenir jam, flower sprinkles, etc.

I read that William is taking legal action to stop a documentary about Diana .
What more can be said after 30 years ??0

It’s the only thing Harry now has.

He’s really going to open the floodgates to people feeling free digging up the dirt on her? Her private life won’t have aged well. And of course journalists and writers are going to ‘fact check’ his documentary.

I think the Diana ‘legend’ really is best left to rest as it is, without being disturbed.

And if he starts on that weird stuff about Meg channeling dead Diana again, he’ll yet again make them a laughing stock.

I agree, @TheAutumnCrow.
Diana had such a short life and it wasn’t a particularly happy one. I wish people would let her rest in peace.

You do realise they have been used to deflect the heat off Andrew up to a point? Because they knew what was coming? Do you not think it's a coincedence that they left as soon as Andrew's relationship with Epstein was exposed? For the love of God PLEASE STOP hating on the wrong people and see this Royal Family for who they are!!! Meghan and Harry have a right to live without having to ask your permission for their existence because they choose to pursue their own interests away from paedophiles!