Support for Monarchy dwindling

[TheHaplessWit]

Support for Monarchy now down to 45%

Following on from the previous yougov polls, it seems the constant negativity about Andrew, Sarah Ferguson, William dodging tax / evicting people, Charles ignoring his brothers actions etc... has pushed royal support down to 45%.

How long until a future election process includes a party saying they'll have a referrendum on the Monarchy as part of their manifesto? probably not next time (3 years), but maybe the one after that?

I’m going to be truthful here! , I’m far more concerned about our elected officials and government than the royals , that does affect me and am disgusted that they have been able to get away with this behaviour for years! , how much more is there?

I do sort of feel sorry for him coming to the role so late and everything that has happened since has been awful, but I do think the universe trying to tell him something and he should listen.

Me too, when I listen to the epic rants in my office I do think who the hell can I vote for, I feel politically lost these days and it bothers me because it really does matter who I vote for.

Sort of yes. But he inherited all this from his mother didn't he? I suppose his hands were tied, she was omnipresent.

And I totally agree with you regarding the Governments. And how this has happened

I agree. And I think the RF have survived a lot just through apathy because they actually dont matter. The problems with the Royals though is a symptom of the kinds of standard of politician we have. MPs are our elected representatives. They have a role in a Constitutional Monarchy to represent the public and ensure that the unelected elements are subject to scrutiny. But instead they have taken the apathy and lack of interest in the workings of the Monarchy (over and above the bling and the gold carriages and the gossip) to ingratiate and enrich themselves, their eyes on a gong instead of doing their jobs of representing us. Our elected representatives have a job in a Constitutional Monarchy to ensure the Monarchy does not overstep the mark, as they cannot be held to account in any other way. They either havent done it or actively acted against our interests (Contracts with the Duchy of Cornwall for Dartmoor Prison, extending the indefensable right of the Monarch to exempt themselves from laws to the heir with no scrutiny or even publicity)

I cannot disagree with any of that !

How do you know? Has he said that? If anything he has indicated the opposite.

No. That is why I said 'I think'. I don't know

I just expressed an opinion on a forum 👍🏼

Yet you would be complaining if they were there 😂

You didn't actually. Your " I think " applied to the transparency and then you went on to state William wouldn't like that.

When did hecsay he wanted more transparency? All he has said is that he is going to changevthe Monarchy so that he will only do his pet projects and not be seen as much. He has reversed his father's decision to reveal how much tax he pays. He does not talk to even the absolutely useless and supine Royal Rota. Where has he said he is going to be more transparent?

I will add that I also believe that the government uses the RF as a shield at times aswell, starmer was happy that Andrew was in the firing line and drawing attention away from the fact he knew mandelson was Epsteins longtime friend, it wasn’t until more revealing emails brought it front and centre that he even acknowledged it!
And if rumours are to be believed Charles wanted a much slimmed down coronation but the government pushed for what we ended up with! Why? , was it a distraction? , did they think it’s what the public wanted? 🤷‍♀️
im firmly in the belief that the trade envoy papers were sealed not necessarily to protect Andrew but to protect the government officials that are clearly involved, now Andrew can sink no lower , there should be no reason not to release them unless they are protecting others.
sorry That was to Rainbow very slow typing!

I hope @MrsLeonFarrell does not mind me using her post from another thread but it really struck a chord with me

If I was convinced that electing a Head of State would fix the corrupting nature of power l'd start a revolution (peacefully) tomorrow. If elections were the solution I think politicians would be less self serving and venial than they are.
They didn't used to be like that, but in the last ten years or so something seems to have gone wrong with our concepts of duty and public service. I don't think it's because we have a monarchy because it isn't limited to here.

I don’t know if it’s because of social media that we know more of the corruption and self serving nature of some politicians/royals and other representatives or if they genuinely are more corrupt now. I can’t believe for example that Michelle Mone is still sunning herself somewhere on a super yacht and still a Baroness, well I can believe it actually 😡 not one of the elites ever face any consequences for their actions and despite Andrew currently not facing any criminal investigations he has at least faced some personal devastating for him consequences, the rest of them…..business (literally) as usual.

They all knew what was going on with Andrew. Anne included. All of them are complicit. All part of the abuse , turning a blind eye

I really wouldn’t be saying that on a public forum if I was you.

Indeed. We don't know anything about William and pledges for transparency

@BigWillyLittleTodger I agree with that. I dont even really care about having a Monarchy. What we dont need is the huge excess, the sheer cost of the British RF compared to other RF's, the amount of people basically sitting around doing very little with their lives but living off handouts from the Monarch with no role in the Constitution yet still with huge amounts of power, access and privilege. The ridiculous infantalising deference I dont think would exist with a ceremonial Head of State which should lead to more scrutiny. The House of Lords is another institution that needs complete review and reform. Michelle Mone and about 700 other peers need to go. There doesn't need to be 800 people sitting there for life. Pay 100 or so experts properly to scrutinise legislation full time for 10 years or so.

Finally you said it about your previous post 😂😂😂😂😂

Sorry, pinkkdog, I don't understand your posts. But have a good laugh on me! 🤣🤣You're welcome!

Charles had plans to start slimming down the Monarchy I thought?

Really, once they pop their clogs they shouldn't be replaced.

They should have helped out Harry and Meghan and brought them back in. They were the refresh the Monarchy sorely needed and popular with young people. But oh no. Also didn’t Charles and the Queen help bank roll Andrew’s settlement with Virginia?

@simpsonthecat ah the old and oft used " oh I don't understand" 😂😂

Have a great evening Pinkdog 🍷
Cheers!

As an ardent royalist from a very early age & having had family work for the RF during the last century, it's quite sad that it's taken less than a week for me to come to the conclusion that the monarchy needs to end.
Looking at polls it seems that many are rapidly coming to the same conclusion.
(Sad in the sense something that's always been there & generally admired around the world is on course for implosion - though the RF have only got themselves along with the men/women in grey suits to blame)